Trucks vs. trains: when to automate

In this episode, Jon Matzner sits down with Claude Burns to break down how military discipline translates into building and running successful businesses.

From structured thinking and execution to leadership under pressure, they unpack the principles that carry over from service into scaling companies and managing teams.

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🥤 Claude is the founder of Office Libations — a tech-enabled food and beverage company redefining how modern workplaces operate, from craft coffee to fully managed snack programs for high-performing teams.

👉 https://www.officelibations.com

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🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/763FBQuzXqTqJ3mb837WbW?si=90211cb9766f4b51
🎧 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LazyLeverageofficial