IVF, surrogacy and commodification concerns

What if the real victims of marriage redefinition were never the adults—but the children?

In this explosive conversation, Katie Faust joins me to talk about her bold new Greater Than Campaign and why it’s time for Christians to stop whispering about marriage, family, IVF, surrogacy, and child commodification. Katie argues that when we center adult desire, children always lose—and the fallout of Obergefell has proven exactly that.

We discuss why children need a mother and a father, how marriage law reshaped parenthood law, why conservatives have often made the wrong argument, and how the church must recover the courage to speak clearly about what is best for kids.

This episode is not just about politics. It’s about justice for children, biblical truth, and answering the biggest cultural questions of our time.

We cover:

Why Katie says it’s time to end gay marriage

How Obergefell changed parenthood, IVF, and surrogacy

Why children—not adults—are the true victims

How the church can stop playing defense

Why today’s culture war is really about what it means to be human

Learn more at GreaterThanCampaign.com

Connect with Katie at ThemBeforeUs.com

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