Dependency, codependency and interdependence

Most people think their relationship problems are about the other person. They're not — they're about an 18-month-old version of you who learned the only way to survive.

In this episode, psychotherapist Jessica Baum breaks down why your nervous system is still running a programme it wrote in infancy. Attachment styles — secure, anxious, avoidant, disorganised — aren't personality quirks. They're adaptive strategies your brain built when connection was a matter of survival. The anxious person who chases, the avoidant who disappears, the couple stuck in a loop they can't explain — it all traces back to the same source: early experiences that taught your body what to expect from closeness. Understanding that isn't just interesting. It's the beginning of actually changing it.

• Your attachment style isn't fixed — it shifts depending on who you're with

• Co-regulation isn't neediness — it's how the nervous system was designed to heal

• The goal isn't independence. It's interdependence — being whole and connected

If your relationships keep following the same painful script, this episode is where you start rewriting it.

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CHAPTERS

00:00 What Are Attachment Styles?
01:55 The Origins of Attachment Theory
05:39 Metacognition and Belief Systems in Development
08:14 How to Intervene on Your Own Attachment Patterns
12:10 Self-Regulation and Co-Regulation
15:21 Codependency vs Interdependency
19:14 Mirror Neurons and Attunement
23:05 Cultural Impacts on Attachment
24:56 Attachment Styles — Bug or Evolutionary Feature?
28:24 Signs You Need to Explore Your Attachment Style
29:54 Gender Differences in Attachment
32:03 Narcissism, Borderline, and Attachment Wounds
33:50 How to Help a Couple Heal Attachment Issues
34:58 The Imago Dialogue Explained
37:35 Expectations in Attachment Therapy
38:43 What Else Causes Relationship Problems?
40:07 Boundaries and Implicit Memory
41:46 Neuroception and Building Awareness
44:00 Closing Thoughts and Resources
44:49 Earliest Memories
45:20 The Kindest Thing

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