Lessons from Ukraine on low-cost defenses

Fred Kagan, senior fellow and director of the Critical Threats Project at the American Enterprise Institute, joins the show to discuss the war, what Ukraine can do to help the Gulf with drone defense, and the future of the Islamic Republic.

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01:51 Updates

03:29 Iranian strikes 

09:15 Munitions crisis    

14:28 Innovation

18:45 Isolated and weak

25:12 Arming the opposition

30:55 A dangerous game 

36:22 10/7 

40:21 Turkey

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