Outro

Aimen has been called away for important last-minute insider meetings, so sitting in for him on today's episode is Nadwa Al-Dawsari, veteran researcher, conflict analyst, and policy advisor with 20 years of field experience in Yemen and the broader Middle East.

Nadwa and Thomas discuss:

• How Yemeni tribalism really works
• The IRGC agents who are in control of Houthi war policy
• Houthi eschatological beliefs
• When the Houthis are likely to join the Iran War in force
• What the military capabilities of the Houthis really are
• The long shadow of the Stockholm Agreement
• Houthi techniques of indoctrination and control
• The growing Houthi presence in the Horn of Africa
• How the Houthis and Al Qaeda are now effectively allies
• Why Western decision-makers get the Middle East so disastrously wrong

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Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

Produced and edited by Thomas Small.

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