Relational Shame Defined

Dr. Kirk Honda interviews Maggie Nick about her book Good Kids, which explores the experiences of parentified children. February 25, 2026

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00:00 Introducing Good Kids by Maggie Nick 
05:04 How do "good kids" show up in therapy?
27:05 Shame based parenting
44:40 What are helpful adjustments in parenting?

56:35 Are scripts OK in parenting?
1:02:35 What has Maggie been attacked for? 

1:18:44 Where else can you find Maggie Nick? 

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