How Quality Has Evolved

In this episode of CIO Perspectives, host Sid Ahl speaks with Kif Hancock, International CIO, and Campbell Donley, CIO Investment Analyst, about the sharp market reaction to AI, the so‑called AI Death Star and the recent pressure in private credit — and how today’s volatility is creating opportunity. The conversation covers why quality has trailed, where dislocation is creating opportunity and how the most concentrated U.S. market in decades affects portfolio construction. The team also examines a K-shaped consumer, rising youth unemployment, the case for international diversification and why private credit requires manager-by-manager scrutiny in a software-heavy cycle.

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Agentic AI is artificial intelligence that can plan, take multi step actions and perform tasks autonomously within workflows.
Broadly syndicated loans (BSLs) are corporate loans arranged by banks and sold to multiple institutional investors.
Direct lending is private lending directly to companies, often those backed by private equity sponsors.
Enterprise value (EV) is a company’s total value, including equity and net debt.
Free cash flow (FCF) is the cash a company generates after capital expenditures that is available for dividends, buybacks, or reinvestment.
Initial public offering (IPO) is the first sale of a company’s shares to the public on a stock exchange.
K-shaped recovery is an economic pattern where higher earners experience stronger growth while lower earners face weaker outcomes.
Market capitalization is the total value of a company’s outstanding shares, calculated as share price multiplied by shares outstanding.
Net profit margin is a measure of profitability calculated by dividing net income by revenue.
Payment-in-kind (PIK) interest is interest paid using additional debt rather than cash.
Quality investing is an investment approach focused on companies with durable earnings, strong balance sheets, high returns on invested capital, and stable free cash flow.
Return on invested capital (ROIC) is a measure of how efficiently a company generates profits from the capital it uses.
Stablecoins are crypto assets designed to maintain a stable value relative to a reference such as the U.S. dollar.