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Benjamin opens the episode, promotes Atlas and the summit, and previews part two with Jamie Lupo.

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If you’re waiting to hear back… you’ve already lost.

In Part 2 of this deep dive, Jamie Lupo breaks down why most recruiters don’t have a sales problem — they have a control problem.

And that problem is killing desks quietly.

After 18 years inside LHH — one of the largest talent solutions organizations in the world — Jamie has trained thousands of recruiters, rebuilt struggling offices, and helped teams turn flat years into record-breaking ones.

In this episode, she goes tactical.

You’ll hear:

• The exact debrief scheduling move that eliminates “waiting on feedback”

• How to turn a simple reference call into a new client order

• The “slow down to speed up” mindset that increases placement ratios

• The flat desk reset framework you can implement Monday morning

• Why only a small percentage of recruiters truly control their process

• How to transform transactional recruiting into revenue-driven recruiting

This isn’t about grinding harder.

It’s about guiding the process.

Scheduling feedback before interviews happen.

Clearing candidates properly before submission.

Using references as a business development engine.

Doing more with the work you already have to do.

If you want to scale a recruiting firm, strengthen your sales skills, and increase your placement velocity — this episode is your execution blueprint.

Jamie will also be going deeper live at the This Is Your Year Recruiter Summit.

If this conversation resonates, you need to hear her full breakdown there.

https://this-is-your-year-recruiter-summit.heysummit.com/

Timestamp Highlights:

00:00 – Why “waiting to hear back” is avoidable

02:09 – The interview question that unlocks real candidate intel

05:05 – How to properly clear a candidate before submitting

06:34 – The reference strategy that gets ghosted clients to respond

07:45 – Why rushing actually slows you down

13:01 – The 75% debrief scheduling tactic

14:48 – The flat desk reset framework

18:22 – Why references are your fastest revenue lever