

The Integral Stage Expanded Universe (ISEU)
(Mostly) Layman? Some Bruce. Don't blame Bruce.
The INTEGRAL STAGE EXPANDED UNIVERSE is an archive of conversations held with people across the developmental, transformational, and regenerative communities. It does not endorse or flinch from anyone willing to speak convivially on these topics. The ethical frame here is to make nuanced, curiosity-driven explorations available and not to provide safe, curated, or validated individuals or ideas. Other guidelines hold sway in other contexts.
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Sep 1, 2022 • 1h 15min
THE DREAMING ARTS: Daniel Deslauriers
For episode 1 of The Dreaming Arts, Layman Pascal meets with teacher, dream guide, and co-author of Integral Dreaming, Daniel Deslauriers, to lay some of the groundwork for this new Integral Stage series. Together they discuss Daniel's early formative experiences with dream work; his work on developing an integral approach to dreaming; dreaming as a relational practice; the cross-cultural history and multiple methods of dream work; the somatic and neurochemical dimensions of dreaming; lucid dreaming; Freudian dream analysis; the dream lives of non-human beings; dreaming as philosophy; and much more.
Daniel Deslauriers, PhD, received his doctorate (1989) in Psychology from the University of Montreal (Quebec) and conducted research at the University of Auckland (New Zealand) and the Chronopsychology Laboratory, Carleton University (Ontario). He lived in Indonesia and has studied the religion and sacred arts of Bali, and trained in Gamelan music and Balinese dance.
He was co-founder of the Montreal Center for the Study of Dreams. Daniel co-authored Le rêve: sa nature, sa fonction et une methode d'analyse (P.U.Q., 1987), has published articles on epistemology and narrative research, and and has co-authored (with Fariba Bogzaran) Integral Dreaming (SUNY Press, 2012). His professional interests in consciousness studies include: traditional and contemporary approaches to dreams and imagination, altered states of consciousness, spiritual intelligence, and integral psychology. He is also a practitioner and teacher of Unity in Motion, a bodymind integrative practice.
Integral Dreaming https://www.amazon.com/Integral-Dreaming-Holistic-Approach-Studies/dp/1438442386/
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Jul 12, 2022 • 1h 30min
THE LIMINAL SCENE: Austin "Emerge Gathering" Debrief
Bruce and Layman assemble with other Austin Emerge attendees to reflect on their experiences, learnings, appreciations & criticisms, and thoughts for moving forward. Joining the discussion are Roger Walsh, Ph.D.; Ivo Mensch; Nomali Perera; and Ēlen Awalom.

Jun 1, 2022 • 1h 9min
RE/THINKING RELIGION PART 5 - w/ John Vervaeke & Bruce Alderman
In Re/thinking Religion, a new Integral Stage series, John Vervaeke joins Bruce Alderman and Layman Pascal to explore possible points of contact and confluence between their respective approaches to religion and spirituality. For the fifth episode, they reflect on an ecological reading and extension of Nietzsche, the nature of virtue and the virtues needed for navigating the meta-crisis, and the kinds of vision and practice systems necessary to contain and process the trauma of our grief for the world.

May 7, 2022 • 1h 19min
LOVE THE SYSTEM: Elon Musk & Social Media Moderation w/ Jim Rutt
Jim Rutt joins Layman Pascal on The Integral Stage to talk about his recent essay, Musk and Moderation.
Does Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter represent a threat or opportunity for social media and the freedom of speech? That isn't clear yet, but Jim Rutt has some advice for Musk, and he discusses it with Layman in a convivial, insult-filled exploration of the challenges of free speech in radically pluralist environments; the new oligarchs and their threat to democratic values; social media and the evolution of public squares; "decorum" moderation versus "point-of-view" moderation; opportunities to move towards GameB values; incentivizing companies to better caretake and preserve free discussion spaces; and much more.
"Musk and Moderation" essay: https://quillette.com/2022/04/27/musk-and-moderation/
Jim Rutt is the former CEO of Network Solutions. The New York Times once referred to him as “the Internet’s bad boy” due to his reputation for creative mischief. He sold Network Solutions at the peak of the Dot Com boom and then went into scientific research. Jim has been affiliated with the Santa Fe Institute since 2002, serving as Chairman from 2009 thru 2012. Currently he runs the Jim Rutt Show podcast, and is the gun-totin' godfather of the Game B movement. Additional Links and Resources
Jim Rutt Show Podcast https://www.jimruttshow.com/
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10 snips
Apr 29, 2022 • 1h 12min
RE/THINKING RELIGION PART 4 - w/ John Vervaeke & Bruce Alderman
For the fourth episode, they turn from reflection on grieving the death of God and the loss of the transcendental sacred, to grieving the state of the world and the impending loss of the immanent sacred. They discuss Nietzsche's insights into the pervasiveness of affective nihilism in modern cultures, and the strengths and shortcomings of his prescriptions; the problem of "god surrogacy," in a world that has lost its center; the dynamics of a culture of make-believe and the impediments to facing collective cultural shadow; the process of grieving the state of the world and our implication in many of its crises, environmental and otherwise; the radical challenge of moving beyond anthropocentrism in our social organization and self conception; and much more.

Apr 28, 2022 • 60min
RE/THINKING RELIGION PART 3 - w/ John Vervaeke & Bruce Alderman
For the third episode, we continue our discussion of griefwork and reflect on the meaning of the "death of God," the factors that have forestalled many in the modern world from properly grieving this loss, and what such a grief process would look like.

Mar 26, 2022 • 1h 33min
LOVE THE SYSTEM: Systems, Freemasonry & Social Fragility w/ Jason Medland
Layman is joined by Jason Medland to talk about the wisdom and insight from both software engineering and long-running Western esoteric traditions, such as the Free Masons, for organizing effectively, preventing system stagnation, maintaining high-level sensemaking and moral commitment, promoting the continued growth of members, and much more. Jason Medland is an OpenSource Software/Systems Architect, Free Mason, firearms and combat sport enthusiast, a Natural Born Psychonaught, and a Meanderthal.
Jason's Medium page: https://jasonmedland.medium.com/
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Mar 26, 2022 • 59min
RE/THINKING RELIGION PART 2 /w John Vervaeke & Bruce Alderman
In Re/thinking Religion, a new Integral Stage series, John Vervaeke joins Bruce Alderman and Layman Pascal to explore possible points of contact and confluence between their respective approaches to religion and spirituality. For the second episode, we discuss the distinction between absolute and relative in traditional and modern metaphysics, the Two Worlds mythology, and the Ascender and Descender paths, and we consider some historical and contemporary approaches to reconceiving their relations.
In the second half of the dialogue, we turn towards the emotional or 'felt' dimensions of a fundamental shift in perspectives, including David Michael Levin's notions of 'crying for a vision' and gelassenheit as the resolution of dualism; and we begin to touch on the importance for a Religion that is Not a Religion of 'moving into the lack' and fully grieving the death of God.
John Vervaeke is a cognitive scientist, a professor of psychology at Toronto University, and the creator of the popular YouTube series, "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis." "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis" Playlist:

Mar 26, 2022 • 1h 36min
NEW EDUCATION: The "Pop-Up School" w/ Bonnitta Roy
In this episode of New Education Systems, Layman is joined by Bonnitta Roy to talk about her new experiment in serial, transformative education: The Pop-Up School. They discuss her inspirations and intentions for the school; her life-long history as an educator; the shortcomings of many current educational models; her ideal transformational curriculum; and the importance of education for the senses, the stages of the self, grief and 'dark nights,' and much more.
Bonnitta Roy is a process philosopher, the founder and president of Alderlore Insight Center, an associate editor for Integral Review, and a consciousness studies and transpersonal psychology professor at The Graduate Institute. She is also the inspiration and instructor behind The Magellan Courses and the Pop-Up School.
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Feb 14, 2022 • 2h
PHILOSOPHICAL CURRENTS: Self-Relating Negation w/ Cadell Last
In this special Integral Stage episode, Layman Pascal is joined by Cadell Last to inquire into the concept of self-relating negativity; the place of lack and the 'gap' in our thinking; the importance of Hegelian and Zizekian perspectives for emerging integrative and metamodern worldviews; the status and problem of the "One"; the question of suffering and our relationship to psychopathology and the symptom; Osho, mysticism and psychospiritual development; and much more. For, as Hegel observed, "The owl of Minerva spreads its wings only with the falling of dusk."
Cadell Last is a philosopher (Ph.D.) with an interest in anthropology and psychoanalysis, and the author of Global Brain Singularity, and Sex, Masculinity, God.
Philosophy Portal https://www.philosophyportal.online
Home page https://cadelllast.com
YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCtCqYQFPhnU1OnHPveEnYw
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