

The Integral Stage Expanded Universe (ISEU)
(Mostly) Layman? Some Bruce. Don't blame Bruce.
The INTEGRAL STAGE EXPANDED UNIVERSE is an archive of conversations held with people across the developmental, transformational, and regenerative communities. It does not endorse or flinch from anyone willing to speak convivially on these topics. The ethical frame here is to make nuanced, curiosity-driven explorations available and not to provide safe, curated, or validated individuals or ideas. Other guidelines hold sway in other contexts.
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Nov 19, 2022 • 1h 22min
SEX, GENDER & RELATIONSHIPS: The Depths of Porn w/ Anonymous Guest 1
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Oct 19, 2022 • 1h 5min
INTEGRAL PSYCHOTHERAPY: Lacan, Spirituality & Neurodiversity w/ Rayan Magon
In The Surplus Spiritual Enjoyments of Rayan Magon, Layman sits with University of Toronto Pearson Scholar, Rayan Magon, to talk about the insights Lacanian psychoanalysis might bring to the issues of neurodiversity and postmodern spiritual practice. Does Lacan, with his distinctively elusive language, have something profound to teach us about the deep structures of our many ways of being in the world, or is he even saying anything at all?
Rayan and Layman open up the concepts of jouissance in relationship to the austic experience of energetic excess; the Big Other; the Logos, and languaging the sacred; the Borromean knot, and the real and symbolic orders; objet petit a; the ego ideal versus the ideal ego, and much more, to see what insights they might yield for both psychospiritual and even theological understanding.
Rayan Magon on Neurodiversity, Empathy, and Life https://youtu.be/MzD9yWP_p0c
Rayan Magon's TEDx Talk: How Self-Realization is the Key to Freedom https://youtu.be/TYvd9kavekc

Oct 7, 2022 • 1h 19min
GLOBAL VOICES: Pacific Indigenous w/ M. Rako Fabionar
Layman meets with M. Rako Fabionar, director of the Innovative Learning and Living Institute (ILALI), to talk about his work with indigenous communities along the Pacific coast of the United States, and more generally around the world.
Rako recalls early formative experiences with his Filipino relatives, his work on issues of justice and equity for indigenous communities in university, and his training in the healing arts by teachers of the African Dagara lineage; and then together they explore a range of issues and concerns affecting the Salmon Nation and many other indigenous communities up and down the Pacific coast. How have these communities integrated and been impacted by modern and postmodern conditions and values? How has Rako's extensive work with these communities impacted his understanding, and use of, various developmental schemas? What might contemporary metamodern and integral communities learn from various indigenous practices such as land listening? What sorts of imaginal, ritual healing, and subtle energetic practices are used by these communities? What most distinguishes Pacific Coast communities from each other, and what unites them? And much more.
M. Rako Fabionar is a consultant, facilitator, and healer who creates learning environments for people to experience deeper connection, insight, and well-being. He is sought after for his powerful presence and capacity to support folks during times of transition. Rako has created transformative programs and equity focused initiatives for businesses, universities, retreat centers, and NGOs for twenty years. He has trained social entrepreneurs, cultural workers, activists, spiritual teachers, and political leaders within the USA, Central America, UK, and Middle East. Rako has also worked closely with leadership from Google, Dignity Health, Adobe, Facebook, Skywalker Ranch, Impact Hub, IONS, and Climate Action Network International. Rako’s graduate studies focused on multi-generational social change. He also brings to his work insights from his professional training in organizational design, and years of spiritual practice, including initiation into two indigenous lineage traditions.
Innovative Learning and Living Institute https://www.ilali.global/
Salmon Nation https://salmonnation.net/
Guild of Future Architects https://futurearchitects.com/

Oct 4, 2022 • 59min
DREAMING ARTS: Dr. Willow Pearson
Layman meets with integrative psychotherapist, spiritual practitioner, and musician, Willow Pearson Trimbach, to talk about her early experiences of the significance of dreams; her concept of dreams as nested and ongoing; the importance of protecting the unconscious; the relationship of the natural states to the classically sacred dimensions of reality; the nature of the dreaming self and its relation to the waking self; her use of the concept of the caesura - a kind of bidirectional membrane - to indicate the nonseparateness of waking and dreaming life; and much more.
Dr. Pearson is a licensed clinical psychologist. She is also a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and a nationally board-certified music therapist (MT-BC). In fall 2017, Dr. Pearson joined the full-time faculty in the Clinical Psychology Department at NDNU. In May 2018, Dr. Pearson became Director of Clinical Training. Previously, she taught doctoral students at Alliant International University in San Francisco, undergraduate and graduate students at Naropa University, and graduate students at John F. Kennedy University. Dr. Pearson’s 18 years of licensed clinical work includes experience in private practice, as well as at medical centers and hospitals (serving inpatients and outpatient clients), community clinics, and mental health centers. In these settings, she has worked with adults, children, adolescents, couples and groups.
Her clinical background includes training in psychoanalytic, psychodynamic, integral, relational, humanistic, cognitive behavioral, expressive arts, somatic, existential, contemplative and transpersonal therapy, and brief approaches with children, adolescents, adults, couples, and groups. Across a range of clinical settings, Dr. Pearson has provided crisis intervention, assessment, brief therapy, group therapy, music therapy and depth psychotherapy, from an integral relational perspective. Dr. Pearson’s private psychotherapy practice is in Oakland, on the border of Emeryville, in the East Bay.
Professional website https://drwillowpearson.com/
The Spiritual Psyche in Psychotherapy (book)

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Oct 4, 2022 • 1h 32min
AUTHOR SERIES: "Integral Relationship Practice" w/ Martin Ucik
Layman meets with Martin Ucik to talk about his new book, Integral Relationship Practice. At 800 pages, and with abundant exercises and illustrations, the book is a manual for singles and couples who are interested in the theory of integral relationships, but also in the deep understanding that can only be gained through embodied practices and experiences.
From the book's description: "[Integral Relationship Practice] is for those who realize that to become fully human means to develop the capacity to be simultaneously whole in ourselves AND part of healthy, sustainable love relationships and nuclear families, who then form the foundation for thriving communities and flourishing societies. And it is for those who understand that cultural and biological evolution are intertwined—that we need to raise conscious children if we want to raise consciousness on the planet to create a better world and a peaceful, sustainable future for humanity. This manual is also intended for helping professionals who want to support their clients in co-creating healthy love relationships, and for group facilitators who feel called to lead events, workshops, and trainings in which the participants sharpen their relationships skills together with others in their local communities through experiential exercises."
Martin Ucik is the author of Integral Relationships: A Manual for Men and Sex, Purpose, Love: Couples in Integral Relationships Creating a Better World, which Ken Wilber calls “terrific,” as well as Sex Purpose Love. He now trains Integral relationship practitioners, professionals, and group facilitators, and offers private trainings and consultations for singles and couples.
Integral Relationship Practice book https://www.amazon.com/Integral-Relationship-Practice-Professionals-Facilitators/dp/B0B5KVD6DH/
Integral Relationship website https://integralrelationship.com/
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Oct 4, 2022 • 1h 48min
SEX, GENDER & RELATIONSHIPS: The Spectrum of Creativity w/ Sally Adnams Jones
Layman Pascal talks with author and expressive arts therapist, Sally Adnams Jones, about the integral dimensions and the transformative, healing power of creativity. How does it show up across the quadrants, and across the stages of the spiral of development? How is it related to Eros and kundalini? How are we to better cultivate and develop it, in ourselves and our children, and what are the risks of its greater expression?
Sally Adnams Jones is Director of TransformArta and has taught art education at The University of Victoria, Canada. Her PhD research explored how survivors of the HIV/AIDs pandemic in Africa transformed through their art practice. Currently she participates on Integral forums on Clubhouse, leads retreats and workshops, offers counselling and creative coaching, and is an artist and author.
Professional website http://sallyadnamsjones.com/

Sep 20, 2022 • 1h 12min
SEX, GENDER & RELATIONSHIPS: Sacred Menstruation & Cyclic Life w/ Adriana Forte
In this special Integral Stage episode, Layman meets with feminine empowerment and leadership teacher, and Integral Semantics facilitator, Adriana Forte, to talk about the menstrual cycle -- the ways it is misunderstood, repressed or denied; its cosmic, biological, and psychospiritual dimensions; and the power and transformation that can attend aligning more closely and consciously with its rhythms. Together they explore the dimensions and dynamics of cyclical life; the importance of attending to cycles in embodiment practice; indigenous wisdom on the menstrual cycle; the stages of reclamation of menstrual consciousness; the 'magic' and subtle states associated with the menstrual cycle; the possible forms future society might take when we learn to better align with individual and natural cycles; and much more.
Adriana has been teaching workshops on feminine empowerment and leadership for years. In the last years she has been focusing her work and studies on Adult Development and Vertical Growth. One of her main areas of interest is on the cross-over between the feminine aspect of consciousness and Adult Development: how it shows up in the later stages (as a natural bi-product of growing up) how it flowers in men and women and how it can be used to spark/deepen the process of both waking up and growing up. She has a Bachelor Degree in Communication, a Diploma in Holistic Kinesiology and in Shamanic Womancraft.
She is a coach and a qualified Integral Semantics Facilitator and is now training to become a scorer of the Stages Assessment (still unavailable in Portuguese). Her work (both with individuals and groups) is deeply influenced by Integral Theory (Wilber), Stages (O'Fallon), Action Inquiry (Torbert) and by the work of pioneers on Feminine Wisdom as Janine Parvati Baker and Jane Collings. She currently facilitates developmental retreats in Brazil.
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Sep 15, 2022 • 1h 28min
THE LIMINAL SCENE: Make the Enneagram Great Again w/ Marshall AEon
What is the Enneagram? Where did it come from, and what the heck happened to it?
In a special Integral Stage episode, Marshall Æon, a student of the Diamond Approach & creator of a popular online Enneagram test, sits down with Layman (who is notoriously skeptical about typologies) to discuss the origins of the Enneagram, the twists and turns of its development, the problem or hidden purpose of its watering down, some of its strongest or most useful formulations, and much more.
At the end of the talk, Marshall gives an overview of the 9 types.
Marshall's Enneagram Test https://enneagramtest.net/
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Sep 13, 2022 • 1h 32min
AUTHOR SERIES: "Becoming Gaia" w/ Sean Kelly
Layman is joined by Sean Kelly to discuss his book Becoming Gaia.
They take a deep dive into the themes of the book, discussing the possibilities of considering Gaia not only as a hyperobject, but a hypersubject; the nature of the ecological and other crises confronting us at this time; the notion of planetary shamanism and the initiatory threshold our planetary crisis represents; the key ideas of Complex Thought; the gaianthropocene and the emergence of Axial Age 2.0; how to speak to children and others about the potential losses we confront; the paradoxical nature of time; the conceptual resources and gifts offered to our time by Nietzsche, Hegel, Morin, Bhaskar, and Wilber; and much more.
Sean Kelly received his Ph.D. in Religious Studies from the University of Ottawa in 1988. Before coming to CIIS, he taught religious studies at the University of Windsor, the University of Ottawa, and Carleton University (Canada). He is the author of Coming Home: The Birth and Transformation of the Planetary Era and Individuation and the Absolute: Hegel, Jung, and the Path toward Wholeness. Sean is also co-editor, with Donald Rothberg, of Ken Wilber in Dialogue: Conversations with Leading Transpersonal Thinkers and co-translator, with Roger Lapointe, of French thinker Edgar Morin's book, Homeland Earth: A manifesto for the New Millennium.
Along with his academic work, Sean has trained intensively in the Chinese internal arts (taiji, bagua, and xingyi) and has been teaching taiji since 1990. Along with his abiding interest in the work of Jung, Hegel, and Morin, his current research areas include the evolution of consciousness, integral ecologies, and transpersonal and integral theory.
Becoming Gaia https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Gaia-Threshold-Planetary-Initiation/dp/1947544284

Sep 13, 2022 • 2h 44min
METAPODCAST: "Aliens & Artists" w/ Stuart Davis
Stuart introduces his Aliens and Artists project and discusses the inspiration behind it, and the interview then quickly turns into a conversation, as Layman and Stuart share experiences and reflections, riffing on shamanic consciousness, the nature of time, Western esotericism, Terrence McKenna and Alan Watts, encounters with UFOs and "alien intelligences," paranormal phenomena, nature mysticism, the effectiveness of hypnotherapy for accessing the unconscious and healing trauma, and much more.
STUART DAVIS is a contemporary musician, songwriter, filmmaker, and podcaster. He has been performing throughout the United States and Europe since 1993. Davis regularly works with music producer Alex Gibson, who produced his last five studio albums. In 2009, TV channel HDNet broadcast the first six-episode season of "Sex, God, Rock 'n Roll," a comedy sketch show written, directed, and hosted by Davis; a second season with Davis and co-host Kandyse McClure began airing in 2012.
Davis is a contributing member of philosopher Ken Wilber's Integral Institute, and appears as a fictionalized character in Wilber's novel Boomeritis. His single Already Free (2008) was featured as the end theme of the Showtime series I Can't Believe I'm Still Single, and was also used in the feature film Drillbit Taylor. A precursor to the HDNet series "Sex, God, Rock 'n Roll" existed in the form of a 12-part web series, The Stuart Davis Show (2007), select episodes of which were co-written with Steven Brill.
Stuart is currently the host of the Aliens and Artists podcast. Links and Resources Stuart Davis: https://www.stuartdavis.com/Aliens & Artists podcast: https://aliensandartists.podbean.com/Man Meets Mantis: https://youtu.be/Zi_8W0qCUH0The Art of Is: https://youtu.be/q3cpAS9xU8o


