

Build a Better Agency Podcast
Drew McLellan
Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.
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Jul 31, 2023 • 51min
EP 408: The power of in-person networking and client-agency relationships with Hank Blank
In-person networking and relationship building are not dead. For agencies, it remains one of the most important methods of building your client base. And unfortunately, odds are you're not doing it enough. Showing up is a huge part of the biz dev battle that a Zoom call or Slack channel just can't fix. And in a time when many of us have to rely on current clients to keep ourselves afloat, cutting corners on new business opportunities won't get us very far. For Hank Blank, some of the biggest red flags from the clients' perspective directly result from our increasingly virtual ways of doing business. In his eyes, you will struggle to find new clients if you're not attending events, doing in-person networking, inviting people into your agency's space, or making philanthropic efforts in your community. If you want to learn what always stands the test of time for agencies battling it out for new clients, don't miss this conversation with one of the best in the business. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How smaller agencies can stand out against large agencies with in-house teams The biggest mistakes agencies make when searching for new business How agencies make themselves look unavailable or uninterested in new clients Why in-person networking is still imperative for growing a client base How agencies can develop a meaningful brand for themselves Letting creativity guide you in your networking and biz dev The 3 things that win new business Making working at an agency fun again Getting ahead of the competition to educate clients on new technology

Jul 24, 2023 • 59min
EP 407: Facilitating change and navigating change fatigue with agency employees with Jenny Magic
The workforce has changed forever, which has brought change fatigue along with it. This means how we navigate problem-solving and facilitate change amongst our teams has to change, too. This week, I'm chatting with Jenny Magic, an expert in all things change and team morale. For almost 20 years, she's been working with agency leaders and their teams to help implement strategies. She noticed that there were often major disconnects between agency leaders and their team's opinions on new strategies and changes to SOPs. She set out to discover what makes teams get on board with change without getting burnt out. We'll discuss the best ways to facilitate change with your teams, get employees on board with your ideas and strategies, and the importance of psychological safety for employees to share openly. When you know how to facilitate change effectively, you'll be surprised how much easier it is to get your teams on board with new ideas and strategies. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How the world of change has changed How to line up change so that it actually gets implemented The cost of change The real roots of change fatigue Why so many employees start "treading water" when you try a new strategy The value of co-creating change with your team Utilizing confidential inquiries to get honest responses from employees There is no "one-size fits all" training model that actually works Creating psychological safety among team members

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Jul 17, 2023 • 47min
EP 406: The peaks and pitfalls of AI innovation with Paul Roetzer
AI expert Paul Roetzer discusses the peaks and pitfalls of AI innovation in agencies, focusing on adapting to AI tools, copyright concerns, client-agency co-creation, and the future of agencies in the age of AI. He highlights the importance of testing, piloting AI tools, and navigating the evolving AI landscape. The podcast sheds light on challenges faced by agencies in integrating AI, balancing AI tools with human insight, and investing in multiple promising AI companies.

Jul 10, 2023 • 52min
EP 405: The four pillars of healthy agency culture with Drew McLellan
The idea of agency culture has been on my mind a lot lately, especially now that we're all settling into new post-covid workplace structures. Without as much face time in an office, many of you are starting to wonder how to continue cultivating a healthy workplace environment for your employees over video calls and Slack channels. For this week's solocast, I'm sharing what research shows are the four core pillars of a healthy agency culture that will ensure your employees feel seen, heard, safe, and valued. It's not just about proximity and having office parties or team outings anymore. And as agency leaders, it's essential that we lead by example in creating the right environment for our teams to thrive. If you can weave these four concepts into how you run your agency and build up your teams, your agency will be set up for success, no matter if you're in the office, fully remote, or somewhere in between. For 30+ years, Drew McLellan has been in the advertising industry. He started his career at Y&R, worked in boutique-sized agencies, and then started his own (which he still owns and runs) agency in 1995. Additionally, Drew owns and leads the Agency Management Institute, which advises hundreds of small to mid-sized agencies on how to grow their agency and its profitability through agency owner peer groups, consulting, coaching, workshops and more. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Thinking about agency culture differently Why agency owners must lead the charge in creating a healthy agency culture Creating an environment of inclusivity for all team members Leading with love and being curious about your people Creating learning opportunities for yourself and the team Encouraging quarterly growth goals for employees Celebrating contributions and identifying employee strengths Leaving space for employees to challenge the status quo Making it ok for people to disagree respectfully

Jul 3, 2023 • 55min
EP 404: Weaving values, missions, and goals into agency culture with Chad Kearns
Agency culture has encountered a massive shift post-pandemic. With hybrid and remote work more common than ever, weaving our missions, goals, values, and purpose into our teams requires a different approach than before. This week, we're talking to Chad Kearns, an agency culture expert, to discuss how agency leaders are at the forefront of agency culture and should run their agency according to their core values. If you don't align yourself with your own mission and values, your team won't be operating at its peak, which can throw the whole agency off balance. If it sounds high-stakes, it's because it is. Everything starts with agency culture — from screening a potential new hire to your employee retention rate. Tune in to learn how to align your agency to your core values and discover what people value the most when choosing to work for an agency. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: People are at the core of the agency world How cultural concerns have changed post-pandemic Challenges that clients face today with agency culture Finding right-fit employees who will embody your agency culture Aligning yourself and exemplifying your mission, values, and goals to your team Where agencies often fail to uphold their core values and missions Culture goes beyond social interaction How to attract better talent aligned with your agency values Why good onboarding is imperative for healthy agency culture

Jun 26, 2023 • 57min
EP 403: Calculating lifetime customer value using data-driven metrics with Valentin Radu
With the elongated sales cycles we have all seen throughout 2023, knowing your lifetime customer value is more important than ever. It's essential not only for you as an agency but also to calculate that data for your clients. Clients are looking for the most value for their money, and everyone is tightening their belts. Gone are the days of patient clients willing to wait around for results. Now, it's all about data-driven, proven results that your agency can provide ASAP. If you can't provide everything they need, they expect you to find the people who can partner with you to get it done. In this episode, we're discussing how you can adapt to the new era of agency ownership with data-driven metrics and proven results for your clients and their customers. We know it's hard to adapt to a fast-changing and ever-adapting world of work, but we're here to help you work through it and find innovative ways to stay ahead of the curve. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Defining lifetime customer value How an agency can help a client calculate their lifetime customer value The trends and metrics that non-commerce agencies can analyze for their LCV How LCV calculations can help you and your clients get smarter about budgeting Why agencies are struggling to acquire new customers and how to adapt The growing importance of agency syndication The swinging pendulum of agency hiring The 3 pillars of customer value optimization How agencies can troubleshoot for their clients and course-correct their offerings

Jun 19, 2023 • 50min
EP 402: The ROI of making your existing clients happier with Susan Baier
Marketing strategist and researcher Susan Baier discusses the 2023 Agency Edge Research study, highlighting the importance of making existing clients happier. They explore the different client archetypes and how they spend their money, as well as what motivates clients to spend more with agencies. The podcast also covers the qualities of the best agency and the transformative power of envisioning the future self. Overall, the episode provides valuable insights for agency owners on building alliances and nurturing long-term partnerships with clients.

Jun 12, 2023 • 51min
EP 401: Weaving creative innovation into agency best practices with Carla Johnson
Part of being an agency means that you solve problems for a living. Clients come to you with a problem, and it's up to you and your team to figure out the solution and present it to them in a neat package. Simply put, creative innovation is woven into the DNA of an agency. Under pressure and deadlines, creative innovation can quickly be squashed, rushed, or underprioritized. But Carla Johnson, an ideation and innovation expert, has studied and produced an effective formula for how agencies can reinvigorate their creative strategies. Her methodology can be incorporated with client projects and daily agency strategy to improve systems and processes. Innovation doesn't always have to be creative, but getting creative about innovation can change how your team solves problems and could even save you time and money when putting it to the test. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: What our clients are really hiring us to do Figuring out how to connect the dots more efficiently Innovative ways to approach creative ideation on your team Bringing clients into the creative innovation process Getting creative about systems and processes during growth moments in the agency The 5-step Wheel of Innovation Weaving creative thinking into everyday life The intersection of business strategy and creative innovation

Jun 5, 2023 • 1h 3min
EP 400: The top agency trends to be aware of for 2023 with Drew and Danyel McLellan
It's that time of year again — we're going over the top agency trends we're noticing so far in 2023 and going into 2024. A lot has changed since the last time we went over the data, which means we have a ton of information that you'll hopefully find valuable and can use as a compass for where to lead your agency through the rest of the year heading into 2024. As we exit the pandemic era and move into the AI era, there's a lot to consider in how agencies function regarding what our clients want, how fast our sales cycle moves, how we hire, where we should focus our biz dev, and more. One thing is certain — many agency owners like you feel re-energized and reinvigorated coming out of 2022. Let this episode be a ray of light that gives you an extra boost of encouragement for the rest of 2023, and keep that momentum going for as long as possible. For 30+ years, Drew McLellan has been in the advertising industry. He started his career at Y&R, worked in boutique-sized agencies, and then started his own (which he still owns and runs) agency in 1995. Additionally, Drew owns and leads the Agency Management Institute, which advises hundreds of small to mid-sized agencies on how to grow their agency and its profitability through agency owner peer groups, consulting, coaching, workshops and more. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: The impacts of recession fears on AGI and revenue ROI — the new agency buzzword A growing agency trend in having amazing teams Rebalancing overservicing and overstaffing issues The fading trend of over-specialization of agencies The PPC, SEO, and data analyst job boom A positive trend in agency owner happiness The continued importance of thought leadership and community spaces The agency employee trends of 2023 Embracing AI and using it as a tool for your work

May 29, 2023 • 45min
EP 399: Reducing liability for agency owners, one data protection policy at a time with Hans Skillrud
Keeping up with data protection and privacy laws is exhausting. Nearly every month, new legislation is being introduced state by state to help keep users' data protected online. And while this is overall a good thing, it can get really messy if agency owners aren't educated and informing their clients about what this means when they build out their websites. Luckily, our guest today, Hans Skillrud, has collaborated with his wife to create an easy, self-updating tool that agency owners can implement on their own websites and the sites they build for their clients. He has committed himself to ensuring that data protection tools and documentation are easily accessible for anyone without needing a legal degree to make sense of it all. In this episode, you'll learn why you must educate yourself and your clients on the most current privacy policy and data protection laws, why not to cut corners in this department, and why you should never collect more data than you actually need. Even if it doesn't seem like a big deal right now, with the constantly changing environment of privacy laws, you never know when you could end up in a mess, even five years later. Don't delay on this, and get your documentation in check today. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: What is Termageddon? What agencies are required to provide to their clients in terms of documentation The risks for smaller businesses and agencies for not practicing good data protection Why agencies should embrace data protection policies, even if it seems complicated Can chatGPT write our policies for us? Why copying and pasting someone else's policies is a bad idea How data protection lawsuits happen How the Termageddon team keeps up with constantly changing data protection laws The confusing future of privacy law Three best data protection practices for agencies and website builders


