

For Heaven's Sake
Shalom Hartman Institute
For Heaven’s Sake is a weekly podcast presented by Ark Media and the Shalom Hartman Institute, hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi. The podcast draws its name from the Jewish concept of machloket l’shem shemayim, “disagreeing for the sake of heaven,” which is exactly what takes place each week as Donniel and Yossi discuss the moral aspects of topics affecting Israel, world Jewry, and the future of Zionism.
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Mar 25, 2026 • 44min
The War in Iran: The End?
A probing conversation about rumors of negotiations to halt the war with Iran. They probe how U.S.-Israel dynamics shape moments of de-escalation and what that pattern means for long-term security. The discussion surveys possible negotiation terms like uranium and missiles without clear public detail. They debate limits of military action, political strategy, and responsibility toward Iranians who oppose their regime.

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Mar 18, 2026 • 48min
The Impact of the Iran War on Israel and the Jewish People
A look at how war has become a daily reality in Israel and the emotional toll of a constant emergency. Conversations about the stubborn politics that resist change despite military success. Examination of the northern front with Hezbollah, risks in Lebanon, and debates over ground operations. Discussion of rising global antisemitism and a widening rift in Jewish identity across the diaspora.

Mar 12, 2026 • 53min
Israel: Winning the Iran War, Losing the American Jews?
A live conversation about why Israelis see a war with Iran as existential while North American Jews feel differently. They trace decades of Israel‑Iran hostility and unpack moral critiques that fuel mutual grievance. The discussion probes credibility, endgames like regime change versus degradation, and whether political success could deepen transatlantic estrangement.

Mar 5, 2026 • 46min
The Case for War
A heated discussion about why most Israelis back a military response while many in the West condemn it. They probe perceived Western pacifism and how long-standing threats from Iran shape Israeli instincts. The conversation examines legal debates over preemption, the lived experience of perpetual danger, and a plea for empathy from liberal Jews abroad.

Mar 1, 2026 • 39min
Thoughts from the Shelter
Two thinkers describe the surreal routines of rushing into shelters and compare private safe rooms with public shelters. They trace how past wars erased the line between home and battlefield and wrestle with the moral language used for enemies who seek annihilation. Religious themes surface as they link Purim, providence, and resilience to Israel’s present vulnerabilities and responsibilities.

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Feb 25, 2026 • 43min
Waiting
Life in Israel seen through a perpetual state of waiting and anxious anticipation. The conversation covers media-driven rumor culture and the psychological toll of constant alerts and suspended plans. They explore historical echoes from 1967, technical fears about underground sites and missiles, and the limits of military solutions versus political openings. The piece examines how narratives shape global alliances and domestic politics.

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Feb 18, 2026 • 38min
Israel's Sovereignty Crisis
A deep look at Israel’s internal sovereignty crisis as tribal loyalties clash with national authority. They recount incidents like mob attacks in Bnei Brak and the draft revolt that expose enforcement breakdowns. Discussion covers ministers defying policy, institutional collapse across police and justice, and how coalition survival reshapes governing priorities.

Feb 11, 2026 • 39min
The Hidden Challenges of Antisemitism
They explore how modern antisemitism shifts from overt attacks to undermining the Jewish story and identity. They discuss how elective Jewish affiliation changes the stakes of discrimination. They examine internal uses of antisemitism accusations in Israeli politics and the broader spiritual costs of living under persistent hostility.

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Feb 4, 2026 • 36min
Election Currents
A wide-ranging look at Israel’s shifting political currents and the return of electoral stalemate. They explore a new fault line pitting Ultra-Orthodox and Arab parties and the historic unification of Arab factions. Local security and rising crime take center stage in Arab communities. They recount a rare Jewish–Arab civic moment in Tel Aviv and consider interim paths through a deadlocked political landscape.

Jan 29, 2026 • 32min
843 Days, 12 Hours, 6 Minutes
They reflect on the return of Ran Gvili's body after 843 days and what that moment reveals about national wounds and divisions. They discuss the scale and personal cost of the retrieval and the moral tension between recovering bodies and rescuing the living. They explore mourning rituals, politicization of grief, calls for accountability, and the fragile, fleeting sense of communal goodness.


