

The Business of Creators
Ian Shepherd
The Business of Creators podcast is for content creators and professionals in the creator economy. Each week we speak to the businesses supporting the creator economy with new tools and effective means of monetisation. Subscribe to the show to learn more about the people powering this amazing new industry. The origin of the show is actually a network I set up in 2017 called The Business of Influencers, back when everyone was talking about influencers and not creators. I built the network to bring people together and it grew to more than 500 people as the creator economy boomed. But I've never liked the word influencer.Having spent more than 20 years in the media industry, I am deeply passionate about supporting creative talent. Today I am the co-founder of a business called Electrify Video Partners which invests in creators. And I created this show to raise awareness of this great industry.
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Apr 3, 2026 • 19min
How Anyone Can Create a Hit Series with AI (No Experience Needed)
Now anyone can now build a binge-worthy series from scratch.In this episode of The Business of Creators, Ian Shepherd sits down with Angela Yu to explore how AI is revolutionizing storytelling—and unlocking a new era where anyone can create, own and monetize their own story IP.Angela shares the vision behind Storeel, an AI-native platform enabling creators to produce serialized, interactive dramas at scale. From micro-dramas to fully AI-generated production workflows, this conversation dives into what the future of entertainment and the creator economy really looks like.Topics Discussed:- The rise of short-form, serialized “micro drama” content- Why AI is unlocking a new generation of storytellers- How Storeel enables end-to-end content creation and distribution- The shift from passive viewing to interactive storytelling- Building a marketplace for creator-owned story IPKey Takeaways:- How AI is collapsing production time from years to days for creators- What it actually takes to succeed as an AI-native creator (and why it’s not about coding)- Why short-form serialized content is exploding—and how to take advantage of the trend- How interactive storytelling is changing the way audiences engage with content- The emerging business model for creator-owned IP in the age of AIWatch to learn actionable strategies to grow your creator business — and don't forget to subscribe to the channel for more insights on the business of creators!

Mar 10, 2026 • 18min
Why Most AI Content Is Useless for Brands (And How to Fix It)
Most AI-generated content looks impressive — but almost none of it is actually usable for real brands.In this episode of The Business of Creators, Ian Shepherd sits down with Simon Davis, founder of SecretSauce, to explore how his AI-native platform is solving one of the biggest gaps in AI content creation: turning raw AI output into cohesive, fully on-brand creative you can publish in 30 seconds.After 22 years in game design, Simon made a bold pivot from building games to building an AI-native creative platform. Instead of complex dashboards filled with dropdowns and design tools, SecretSauce takes a radically simple approach: conversational prompts, brand memory, and production-ready assets that actually follow your brand guidelines.If you’ve ever generated AI content that “looks good” but doesn’t look like your brand, this conversation will completely change how you think about AI workflows.Topics Discussed:- Why most AI-generated content fails in real-world brand production- The shift from traditional creative workflows to AI-native design- How SecretSauce builds “brand memory” and enforces consistency- Using AI to power campaigns, product catalogs, and influencer content- The future of AI-driven video, distribution, and performance insightsWhat You’ll Learn:- How to generate AI content that’s fully on-brand — not just “good enough”- Why most AI creative workflows are broken (and what to use instead)- How AI agents can evolve into your built-in creative director- How small teams can produce studio-level campaigns at a fraction of the time and cost- Where AI content creation is heading next — from video to performance-driven optimizationSimon also shares how one solopreneur used SecretSauce to launch an entire Chinese New Year campaign and cut marketing time from dozens of hours a week to just two.Listen to learn actionable strategies to grow your creator business — and don't forget to subscribe to the channel for more insights on the business of creators!

Feb 26, 2026 • 31min
Why Brands Are Missing Out on YouTube (And What It’s Costing Them) with Larray and Andrew Graham
Are brands making a massive mistake by overlooking YouTube?In this episode of The Business of Creators, Ian Shepherd sits down with creator Larray and CAA talent agent Andrew Graham to unpack why Fortune 500 brands have shifted budgets to TikTok and Instagram and what they’re losing by ignoring the long-form power of YouTube.They break down the post-pandemic budget shift, the rise of UGC and paid media, and the growing disconnect between what marketers think drives culture and where real community and real revenue are actually built.If you're a CMO, brand marketer, creator, or operator in the creator economy, this is a must-listen conversation.Topics Discussed:- Why brand dollars moved from YouTube to short-form platforms- The difference between paid media strategy and creator strategy- How YouTube builds deeper, more loyal communities- Why long-form content drives stronger purchase intent- The connected TV opportunity most brands are ignoringKey Takeaways:- Why YouTube audiences create “superfans” who buy products, tickets, and merch- How long-form content builds emotional connection that short-form can’t replicate- The strategic mistake brands make when they treat YouTube like just another ad platform- Why creators with strong YouTube businesses build real enterprise value- How brands can integrate into “hero” content instead of relying solely on paid mediaAs Andrew puts it: if you want transactions, go short-form. If you want to build an empire, build on YouTube.Watch to learn actionable strategies to grow your creator business — and don't forget to subscribe to the channel for more insights on the business of creators!

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Feb 15, 2026 • 32min
How Smart Creators Are Turning Influence Into Equity with Jeff Frommer from OWM
Jeff Frommer, founder of OWM and former media entrepreneur, builds a platform that puts creators on cap tables. He explains influence-for-equity deals and why ownership, not ads, fuels alignment. Short takes on valuing creators, roles like advisor vs co-founder, and using data and AI to match creators with brands.

Jan 26, 2026 • 34min
From YouTube Channel to Media Company: Inside Smosh’s Business with CEO Alessandra Catanese
Smosh didn’t just survive two decades on YouTube, it rebuilt itself into a premium comedy company, and this episode breaks down exactly how they did it. In this episode of The Business of Creators, host Ian Shepherd sits down with Alessandra Catanese, CEO of Smosh, to break down how one of YouTube’s most iconic comedy brands is evolving into a premium, future-proof media company.Alessandra shares how Smosh is balancing creative freedom with sustainable business growth, why YouTube remains central to their strategy, and what it really takes to build a healthy creator-led company at scale. From redefining company culture to diversifying revenue streams and investing in talent, this conversation offers a rare look behind the scenes of a modern creator business operating at a high level.Topics Discussed:- Smosh’s evolution from YouTube channel to premium comedy brand- Why creator companies need clear values, culture, and leadership- Building sustainable revenue across AdSense, brand deals, merch, and live shows- Hiring, scaling teams, and maintaining work-life balance- The future of the creator economy and its convergence with traditional mediaKey Takeaways:- Learn how to evolve a creator brand without alienating your existing audience- Understand how to structure leadership so creators can stay creative while the business scales- See how Smosh balances free YouTube content with paid products, merch, and live experiences- Discover how intentional culture, hiring, and work-life balance drive long-term growth- Get a clear framework for thinking about the future of the creator economy and where opportunities are opening up nextListen to learn actionable strategies to grow your creator business — and don't forget to subscribe to the channel for more insights on the business of creators!

Dec 9, 2025 • 31min
Steven Bartlett Just Invested in This Creator Brand — Here’s How Maggie Sellers Reum Made It Happen
Maggie Sellers Reum, founder of Hot Smart Rich and creator-turned-investor, built a female ambition brand from WhatsApp meetups to a global community. She recounts how intimate community, emotional business storytelling, and a London DM led to a partnership with Flight Story/Steven Bartlett. Conversation covers scaling with soul, negotiating first major deals, and turning meetups into lasting brand momentum.

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Dec 8, 2025 • 43min
How Steven Bartlett's FlightStory are building billion-dollar creator brands with CEO Georgie Holt
Georgie Holt, CEO of Flight Story and co-founder of Flight Story Studio, is on a mission to revolutionize creator-led media brands. She shares insights on scaling The Diary of a CEO into a cultural phenomenon and reveals how data and AI drive this transformation. Georgie emphasizes the shift from creator to founder mindset and discusses the importance of long-form content for sustainable growth. Learn about their unique evaluation of creators, community building, and creating media empires that thrive beyond individual creators.

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Nov 18, 2025 • 21min
How Beehiiv Is Helping Creators Monetize Faster Than Ever with CEO Tyler Denk
In a conversation with Ian Shepherd, Tyler Denk, the CEO and co-founder of Beehiiv, dives into how his platform aims to revolutionize the creator economy. He discusses Beehiiv’s recent product launch, which consolidates newsletters, websites, and digital products into one user-friendly system. Tyler shares strategies to monetize effectively with small audiences and how their ad network assists creators in generating instant revenue. He emphasizes the importance of a simplified tech stack and predicts significant consolidation trends in the industry.

Nov 17, 2025 • 37min
How Amy Madison Luo Is Building Blueberry Into the LVMH of Digital Fashion on Roblox
In this engaging discussion, Amy Madison Luo, CEO of Blueberry and a visionary in digital fashion, dives into the booming world of virtual style on platforms like Roblox and Snapchat. She explains how digital garments are reshaping identity and culture in gaming. Amy reveals the intricacies of designing culturally resonant pieces and the empowering Blueberry Creator Studio that allows fans to co-create. The conversation also touches on the transformative potential of AI in fashion and her ambitious vision for Blueberry to become the LVMH of digital fashion.

Nov 7, 2025 • 26min
Why Podcasting Is the Next Big Gold Rush for Creators with Acast CEO Greg Glenday
Podcasting isn’t just a side hustle anymore, it’s becoming the next major media industry. In this episode of The Business of Creators, Ian Shepherd sits down with Greg Glenday, CEO at Acast, to reveal how the world’s biggest podcast-only company is scaling globally with open RSS, smarter monetization, and AI that enhances, not replaces, human creativity.Topics Discussed:- How Acast turned dynamic ad insertion into a billion-dollar podcast ad backbone- “Open, not walled”: why being platform-agnostic is Acast’s superpower- The real ways AI is being used right now — from better ad matching to creative automation- What makes the UK and Australia such strong podcast markets (and how the U.S. is catching up)- Why YouTube has become the new podcast discovery engineWhat You’ll Learn by Listening:- How to use AI tools to boost your ad revenue without losing your voice- Why going “open RSS” could be your best growth move as a creator- How brands are finally valuing podcasting as a measurable, mainstream ad channel- The global trends shaping podcasting’s next wave — and where the biggest opportunities lie- How to future-proof your creator business as the industry matures and ad tech evolvesWatch to learn actionable strategies to grow your creator business and don't forget to subscribe to the channel for more insights on the business of creators!#Acast #PodcastMonetization #CreatorEconomy #AIforCreators #PodcastGrowth #OpenRSS #YouTubePodcasts #CreatorBusiness #PodcastAdvertising #BusinessOfCreators


