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The Coaches Site
The Coaches Site Founder Aaron Wilbur sits down with some of hockey's top coaches and leaders to learn about their journey and dissect the lessons they've learned along the way. Each episodes features key take aways for coaches of all levels. The Glass and Out Podcast is required listening for coaches looking to gain key insights from hockey's most influential leaders.
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Jul 8, 2022 • 1h 13min
New York Islanders Assistant Coach Brian Wiseman: Live at TCS Live
We've arrived at our final Glass and Out episode of the hockey season. For the finale, we welcome newly hired New York Islanders assistant coach Brian Wiseman, who joined us for another in-person interview at last month's TCS Live in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Wiseman just completed his third season as an assistant with Edmonton, in which the Oilers made it to the Western Conference Final for the first time since 2006. He's an alumni of the University of Michigan as both a player and coach, where he spent eight seasons as an assistant coach. He now joins the Islanders, along with new head coach Lane Lambert and fellow assistant Doug Houda. Hear Wiseman detail what went into the Oilers' lengthy playoff run, how his relationship and appreciation for legendary coach Red Berenson has helped shape his career, and how his transition from a press box role to on the bench helped him see the game from a different perspective. We want to thank everyone for tuning in this season and making us a regular part of your weekly routine. If you missed any episodes, make sure to go back and check out our full catalogue here. We've got some exciting things planned for season 6, so stay tuned. We'll see you in September!

Jun 30, 2022 • 56min
NHL Coach Steve Spott: Live at TCS Live
We've got a couple of special episodes to close out season 5 of the Glass and Out podcast. We had the pleasure of being joined by longtime NHL coach Steve Spott for our first ever live episode of the podcast, which took place during TCS Live at the University of Michigan. Attended by close to 100 of our conference attendees at Conor O'Neill's Pub, recording this podcast was one of the many highlights from a truly incredible week in Ann Arbor. Spott has coached for close to 30 years and can be used as a great example of working your way up the coaching ladder, having made stops at just about every level of hockey. And while he was recently let go from his most recent gig in Vegas, there is no doubt he will find himself back in the NHL in no time. Listen as we dive into his journey from Seneca College to eight consecutive seasons in the NHL, how he's developed the technical aspects of his coaching and become known as a face-0ff specialist, and shares valuable advice that all aspiring coaches can take something from.

Jun 10, 2022 • 1h 12min
Sioux City Musketeers Head Coach Luke Strand: Developing a championship mindset, analytics introduction and relying on the fundamentals
In episode #182 of The Glass and Out podcast, we're joined by Luke Strand, Head Coach of the USHL's Sioux City Musketeers, to discuss the process involved in bringing a fourth Championship to Sioux City, and his 20 season coaching journey, which has seen him spend time in the NCAA, USHL, AHL, as well as working in the NHL as a scout. He got his start as an Assistant Coach with St. Nobert College, a Division 3 school based in Green Bay, Wisconsin. In 2003, he moved across town to join the Green Bay Gamblers of the USHL. After a two-year stop with the AHL's Houston Aeros, Strand jumped back to the USHL, for his first stint with Sioux City. In 2011, he made his way to the West Coast, to join Troy Ward, who had just been named the Head Coach of the Abbotsford Heat, then the AHL affiliate of the Calgary Flames. The next few seasons would see him return to the USHL in Sioux City and Madison, join the University of Wisconsin Badgers coaching staff and take on a scouting role with the Calgary Flames. In 2017, Luke returned to Sioux City for a third time, this time, leveraging his past experience to build a contender and eventual championship team. In this week's podcast, hear how Strand has established himself as one of the top developers of talent in the game, how his introduction to analytics has influenced his coaching, and the details of this season's Clark Cup championship.

Jun 3, 2022 • 1h 4min
Team Canada Coach Kori Cheverie: Preparing for international tournaments, trailblazing for women and building trust through autonomy
For episode #181 of the Glass and Out podcast, we're joined by Kori Cheverie, a trailblazer for women's hockey and someone who had quite an eventful 2021-2022 season. First, she was an Assistant Coach with Team Canada's National Women's Team that captured Gold at the Olympics in Beijing. That was then followed with a trip to Germany for the U18 Men's World Championships, where she became the first female to work on the coaching staff of a Canadian men's National Team. Cheverie began coaching in youth programs at Ryerson University, while playing for the Toronto Fury of the CWHL. She decided to jump into the coaching ring full t-me and when she didn't see any opportunities with the Ryerson women's program, she turned to the men's program. She was named Assistant Coach of Ryerson's men's program in advance of the 2016-2017 season and in the process became the first female to be full-time Assistant Coach of a men's team in Canadian University Hockey. In 2019, she first got involved with Hockey Canada's program of excellence, beginning as an Assistant Coach of Canada's entry into the 2019 U18 Women's World Championships. Next up, in 2021, Cheverie took part the Women's World Championships as an Assistant Coach with Team Canada. That led to her appointment with the Team Canada at the 2022 Winter Olympics, which opened the door to her coaching the men at the U18 World Championships last month. In addition to all her accomplishments, Cheverie has also been linked to being a candidate to be the first woman hired as a full-time coach in the NHL. Given her track record, we have no doubt that she just may have the ability and drive to make it happen. Find out her thoughts on how to prepare a team for international tournaments, how to build trust through autonomy, and how she's preparing for the next stage in her career.

May 27, 2022 • 1h 18min
Saginaw Spirit Head Coach Chris Lazary: Teaching offensive tactics, using Rondo games and balancing winning and development
In episode #180 of the Glass and Out podcast, Chris Lazary Head Coach of the OHL's Saginaw Spirit, stops by. Lazary was named Saginaw Head Coach on November 18, 2018, after serving as an Associate Coach for over two seasons. He led the Spirit to back-to-back West Division Championships (2018-19, 2019-20) for the first time in team history, and in the process, his team put up a ton of goals. As you'll hear, Lazary is clearly passionate about providing his players a framework to play with the puck on their sticks, and creating space to get creative and make plays. Get your notepads out! He got his start in junior as an Assistant Coach with the St. Michaels Buzzers in the Ontario Junior Hockey League during the 2010-11 season, following several years of coaching minor hockey in the Toronto area. After two seasons with the Buzzers, Lazary moved on to be an Assistant Coach at his hometown York University. He made the jump to the OHL in 2014 with the Sarnia Sting as an Assistant Coach, where he spent two seasons prior to joining the Spirit. While last season was a rebuilding year for the Spirit, the future is bright as they'll return a roster of young talent, including incoming rookie Michael Misha, who was selected 1st overall in the OHL draft after having been granted exceptional player status, meaning he will play his rookie season in Saginaw as an underage player. Find out Lazary's philosophy on teaching offensive tactics, how he handles the junior hockey balance of development and winning, and what he's picked up from a systems and tactics perspective from this year's NHL playoffs.

May 20, 2022 • 1h 10min
Dr. Ethan Kross: Improving mental skills, embracing stress, and the "Batman Effect"
In episode #179 of the Glass and Out podcast, we're joined by Dr. Ethan Kross, who is one of the world's leading experts on controlling the conscious mind. An award-winning professor and bestselling author in the University of Michigan's top ranked Psychology Department and its Ross School of Business, he studies how the conversations people have with themselves impact their health, performance, decisions and relationships. Dr. Kross is the author of the National Bestseller Chatter: The Voice in Our Head, Why it Matters and How to Harness It, which was chosen as one of the best new books of the year by the Washington Post, CNN and USA Today. He will be going into further detail on the topic of his book at next month's TCS Live. If you haven't already bought your ticket, you can still register. You definitely don't want to miss it. Kross' research has been published in Science, The New England Journal of Medicine, and The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, among other peer-reviewed journals. He has participated in policy discussion at the White House and has been interviewed on CBS Evening News, Good Morning America, Anderson Cooper Full Circle, and NPR's Morning Edition. His pioneering research has been featured in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New Yorker, Harvard Business Review, USA Today, The Economist, The Atlantic, Forbes, and Time. Legit. In this week's podcast, he shares how we can all improve our mental skills, regardless of what stage of life we're in, why it's important to embrace stress, and the problems with over venting.

May 12, 2022 • 55min
Seattle Kraken Head Coach Dave Hakstol: Building a tradition, supporting players during the off-season and climbing the coaching ladder
For episode #178, we revisit one of our favourite conversations from last year's College Hockey Inc. Virtual Coaching Clinic. Seattle Kraken Head Coach Dave Hakstol sat down with us in advance of their inaugural training camp to discuss what goes into building a franchise/team from scratch and his coaching journey up to that point. Despite not living up to the lofty heights of the Vegas Golden Knights incredible expansion season, Hakstol and the Kraken appear to be in good shape to build off their first year with plenty of cap space and a surplus of draft picks. Hakstol got his coaching career started in 1996 with the USHL's Sioux City Musketeers, a role he held for four seasons before returning to his alma mater, the University of North Dakota. He was named Head Coach in 2004, leading the team to the NCAA Frozen Four on seven occasions and was also honoured with the conference Coach of the Year Awards in 2009 and 2015. Hakstol made the jump to the NHL in 2015 with the Philadelphia Flyers, becoming the first head coach since 1982 to go directly from the NCAA to the NHL. After four seasons, he joined Toronto for two seasons as an assistant. Hear about the whirlwind summer leading up to the Hakstol's first season with the Kraken, tips on how to support your players during the off-season, and how his climb up the coaching ladder helped shape him as a person.

May 5, 2022 • 1h 6min
Ohio State Head Coach Nadine Muzerall: The path to a National Championship, mentorship from Torts and creating a lethal offence
We're joined by Nadine Muzerall, Head Coach of the National Champion Ohio State Buckeyes, for episode #177 of the Glass and Out podcast. While most would associate OSU with their legendary football program, Muzerall has been building a tradition of her own with the women's hockey program since she arrived on campus in 2016. In her six seasons, the Buckeyes have gone from a sub-500 team to a perennial college powerhouse, qualifying for NCAA tournament on four occasions and capturing the 2022 NCAA Frozen Four Championship as the top seed in women's college hockey. Muzerall has also been recognized as the WCHA Coach of the Year twice. The Mississauga, Ontario, product played her college hockey at the University of Minnesota, where she was named an All-American in 1998 and 2000, while also earning Team MVP honours during those seasons. Muzerall had the honour of becoming the first women hockey player to be inducted into the University's Hall of Fame. She joined her former Head Coach Brad Frost as an Assistant Coach with her alma mater in 2011. During her return to the Gophers, the program captured four National Championships in five seasons. Hear about how Muzerall reshaped the culture at OSU, her unique mentorship from John Tortorella, and the offensive philosophy that led to her squad putting up a staggering 175 goals in only 29 games.

Apr 29, 2022 • 1h 15min
University of Vermont Head Coach Todd Woodcroft: Staying positive, putting your players first and post-season preparation
We welcome a familiar face for episode #176 of the Glass and Out podcast. University of Vermont Head Coach Todd Woodcroft is a good friend of The Coaches Site and has presented at numerous events. He'll also be joining us at TCS Live at the University of Michigan this coming June. If you haven't already bought tickets, now is the time. Woodcroft just wrapped his second season as coach of the Catamounts, a position he was hired for at the on-set of the pandemic. Despite some obvious challenges, he has begun to put his mark on the program by adding several NHL prospects and looking outside of North America for talent, as there are players from nine different countries on the roster. Prior to his arrival in Vermont, Woodcroft spent four seasons as an Assistant Coach on the Winnipeg Jets coaching staff, one of several roles and stops in the NHL during the course of his career. His first stint was as video coach with the Minnesota Wild during their inaugural season and he went on to work as a scout for the Wild, Washington Capitals, and Los Angeles Kings. From 2013 to 2016, he was the Director of Scouting for the Calgary Flames. Woodcroft also has significant international experience, having been a part of the coaching staffs for Canada, Belarus, Switzerland, and Sweden. On the podcast we discuss how he's handled the challenges of rebuilding a program during a pandemic, how he structures his practices, and why he feels positivity is a coach's most powerful tool.

Apr 25, 2022 • 1h 19min
Player Development Coach Tomas Pacina: The power of inspiration, playing a position-less system and hot to build confidence
In episode #175 of the Glass and Out podcast, we speak with Tomas Pacina, who up until the day before we recorded this conversation, had been the Head Coach of the Czechia National Women's program for two seasons. Pacina has had an incredibly unique and diverse career that has touched just about every level of hockey. He moved to Calgary, Alberta, in the mid 90s and began coaching midget hockey, while working at a local hockey academy. This led to the opportunity become a Skills Coach for Canada's National Men's Team, which at the time was under the guidance of current Hockey Canada CEO Tom Renney. From there, he joined the New York Rangers as a Skills Coach, becoming one of the first of his position to be hired by an NHL team. He remained with the Rangers until 2004, and later worked with the Florida Panthers and Montreal Canadiens in a similar capacity. From 2011 until 2020, Pacina was a skills coach for the Portland Winterhawks of the WHL, working under the leadership of Mike Johnston for majority of his tenure. In addition to his work in the men's game, Pacina has also making significant inroads in women's hockey. From 2002-2007, he was the Head Coach of the Calgary Oval X-Treme of the NWHL, and led the club to two league Championships. Pacina returned behind the bench of Calgary's professional women's team in 2017, however this time it was for the Calgary Inferno of the CWHL. He was named the league's Coach of the Year. In 2020, he was named Head Coach of the Czech National Women's team and put in charge of developing a competitive program. He helped the program qualify for its first Olympic games and jump up to seventh in world rankings. Hear his process for assisting players in building confidence, the benefits of playing a position-less system, and how to connect with an athlete's human spirit through inspiration.


