

Glass and Out
The Coaches Site
The Coaches Site Founder Aaron Wilbur sits down with some of hockey's top coaches and leaders to learn about their journey and dissect the lessons they've learned along the way. Each episodes features key take aways for coaches of all levels. The Glass and Out Podcast is required listening for coaches looking to gain key insights from hockey's most influential leaders.
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Mar 16, 2023 • 1h 3min
Erie Otters Head Coach Stan Butler: Influence from being a teacher, staying in junior hockey and running the legendary Crosby-Gretzky practice
In episode #212, Erie Otters Head Coach Stan Butler stops by. Butler recently returned behind the bench after a two year break and is currently in his 26th season coaching in the CHL. He's coached in over 1,600 OHL games and won 742 of them, ranking him in the top 5 in league history in both categories. Hear him discuss the influence his teaching career has had on his coaching career, the decision to stay in Junior hockey, and why he still has the juice to chase that elusive OHL crown with the Erie Otters.

Mar 9, 2023 • 1h 12min
Skating Coach Katy Jo West: Fundamentals of great skating, unconventional methods to improve speed and starting a business from scratch
In episode #211, we welcome Skating Coach Katy Jo West to the show. She is the founder of Katy Jo Power Skating, based just outside of Denver, Colorado, where she works with everyone from two and three year-old's stepping onto the ice for the first time, right up to NHL players. West is also a presenter at this year's Global Skills Showcase, hosted by The Coaches Site. Listen as she discusses the fundamentals of becoming a great skater, getting comfortable with being unconventional, and hacks to running a business that requires you to be on the ice 40+ hours per week.

Mar 2, 2023 • 1h 32min
Slugocki Hockey Founder Brian Slugocki: Developing practice plans for Auston Matthews, creating environments to grow hockey sense and always checking for learning
In episode #210, Skills Coach Brian Slugocki stops by to join the show. His current roles include Director of Skill Development for the Jr. Coyotes youth program, where he is also the Head Coach of the programs 10u elite team, Skill Development Consultant for the NHL Arizona Coyotes and prospects, Skills Coach for Total Package Hockey (TPH), all in addition to running private and small group training for youth players up to NHL players through his company Slugocki Hockey. Slugocki will be presenting at the 2023 Global Skills Showcase on how to develop hockey sense. Hear him discuss how you create a practice plan for elite players like Auston Matthews, what goes into creating a learning enivronment that develops hockey sense, and why you need to check for learning.

Feb 23, 2023 • 1h 24min
Steinbach Pistons Head Coach Paul Dyck: Growing up on the pond, learning from Scotty Bowman and getting breakfast feedback from fans
In episode #209, we connect with Paul Dyck, Head Coach and General Manager of the MJHL's Steinbach Pistons. The Pistons have been one of the most successful and consistent Junior A programs in Canada since Dyck stepped behind the bench part way through the 2012-2013 season. Listen as he discuss why great coaches find reasons why a team CAN succeed, the role grit plays in winning Championships and why you need to appreciate feedback from your fans, even if they interrupt your breakfast.

Feb 16, 2023 • 1h 10min
Seattle Thunderbirds Head Coach Matt O'Dette: Why every team needs a library, being neighbours with your goalie and secret to keeping players motivated
In episode #208, we're joined by Head Coach of the WHL's Seattle Thunderbirds, Matt O'Dette. Coming off a season where he led the TBirds on an epic run to the WHL Finals, O'Dette has Seattle back in contention, currently sitting atop the Western Conference and ranked #4 in the CHL rankings with a roster full of talent. Hear him share why every team needs its own library, being neighbours with your goalie and how the secret to keeping the fire burning in your players is to actually start a fire.

Feb 9, 2023 • 50min
Brooks Bandits Head Coach Ryan Papaioannou: Offensive principles, 3 qualities to look for in a player and coaching a young Cale Makar
In episode #207, we welcome a returning guest to the podcast, Brooks Bandits GM and Head Coach Ryan Papaioannou. He is currently in his 14th season behind the bench for the Bandits, a program that he's led to six AJHL Championships and three National CHampionships. Listen as he shares his offensive principles, the three qualities he looks for in players, and what it was like coaching a young Cale Makar.

Feb 2, 2023 • 60min
Tri-City Americans Head Coach Stu Barnes: Learning from coaching greats, being adaptable and what players really want from coaches
In episode #206, we're joined by Tri-City Americans Owner and Head Coach Stu Barnes. Prior to coaching, Stu enjoyed a long NHL career as a player and has a long list of coaches that he either played for or has coached with, including the likes of Dave King, Roger Neilson, Lindy Ruff, Ken Hitchcock, Marc Crawford, and Dave Tippett. In today's conversation, we discuss the type of relationship players value from their coach, how he collaborates with his coaching staff, and what he's picked up from so many coaching greats.

Jan 26, 2023 • 51min
Kalamazoo Wings Head Coach Joel Martin: Why goalies make great coaches, power of positive affirmations and defensive zone principles
In episode #205, we welcome Joel Martin, Head Coach of the ECHL's Kalamazoo Wings. Martin is in his first season as the Head Coach of he K-Wings, is currently one of only two black head coaches in North American professional hockey. Martin has spent a total of 14 seasons with the ECHL franchise, including nine as a goalie and four as a coach. He was named to the 14th ECHL Hall of Fame class January of 2022. Listen as he touches on why former goaltenders make great coaches, the power of postive affirmation and keeping things fun, and the principles to shutting teams down in your defensive zone.

Jan 19, 2023 • 50min
ESPN Analyst Ray Ferraro: Creating a healthy coach-parent relationship, his coaching philosophy and World Junior memories
We've got a special edition of the Glass and Out Podcast for you this week. During the holiday break, Breakaway, the Minor Hockey Podcast, was joined by one of the most influential voices in hockey, ESPN Hockey Analyst Ray Ferraro. In addition to his work on hockey broadcasts, Ferraro is also a sports parent, with four kids who played everything from hockey to soccer. Ferraro has seen first hand how the game and the parent-coach relationship have changed over time and he shared his coaching philosophy with Breakaway hosts Aaron Wilbur and Ian Taylor. There were more than a few gems dropped by Ferraro on how to improve today's game. Hear this must-listen conversation on the Glass and Out Podcast!

Jan 13, 2023 • 1h 15min
USA Hockey Senior Director of Player & Coach Development Ken Martel: Improving a player's decision making, development in non-traditional markets and what's next in the evolution of player and coach development
In episode #203, we're joined by Ken Martel, USA Hockey's Senior Director of Player & Coach Development. In his newly appointed role, he is charged with developing a framework for associations in the US to follow that leads to an enhanced player and coach development pathways. Listen as he shares his thoughts on what's next in the evolution of player and coach development, how he approaches developing hockey in non-traditional markets, and the experience of growing up playing hockey in a pre-Gretzky California.


