

Leading Second Podcast
Brandon Stewart
A monthly podcast to help church leaders thrive in the second chair.
Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair. To learn more, visit leadingsecond.com.
Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair. To learn more, visit leadingsecond.com.
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Sep 27, 2018 • 34min
Season One Ep. 018 // Earl & Oneka McClellan (pt. 1) on Alignment, Trust, and Faithfulness
It is vital when leading in the second chair to insert trust even we do not have 100% understanding. In this episode, we are joined by Lead Pastors Earl & Oneka McClellan of Shoreline City Church (with campuses in Dallas, TX and Antigua Guatemala), for a passionate conversation on Alignment, Building Trust, and Faithfulness in Small Things. Alignment and honor is the lifeblood of a healthy team. As second chair leaders, we must allow our own understanding to take a back seat to our alignment in order for the church to move forward.
Welcome to Season One of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning.
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Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Sep 20, 2018 • 39min
Season One Ep. 017 // Yellowbox Creative on Collaboration, Creative Processes + Your Leader's Vision
Why do we as leaders struggle to bring other people's vision to life? In this episode, we are joined by Yellowbox Creative, the team behind the creative design and strategy of Leading Second, for a conversation on collaboration, creative processes, and "bringing your leader’s vision to life." This episode is not just for creatives. If there is one thing that all leaders in the second chair are responsible for, it's bringing the vision that's in the hearts of our leaders and pastors into reality.
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Facebook: Leading Second Forum https://www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646
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Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Sep 13, 2018 • 41min
Season One Ep. 016 // Chris Brown on Achievement Addiction, Stewardship, and How to Get Promoted
Why does stewardship matter to young leaders? In this episode, we are joined by Chris Brown, servant of the local church as both a communicator and coach, for a comprehensive conversation centered around stewardship and promotion. We explore the key differences between God's way and the world's way in regards to entitlement and gratitude and how they pertain to young leaders in ministry. Entitlement gets demoted, gratitude gets promoted, and a realization that God is the owner of everything you're managing is foundational to any success you can have in leadership.
Welcome to Season One of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning.
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Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond
Facebook: Leading Second Forum https://www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646
Connect with Brandon Stewart
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Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart
Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Sep 6, 2018 • 44min
Season One Ep. 015 // The Leading Second Coaches on Increasing Your Personal Capacity
Season One Ep. 015 // The Leading Second Coaches on Increasing Your Personal Capacity
In this episode, Brandon is joined by three of the Leading Second Coaches as they have a discussion on the importance of personal capacity and the defining role it plays in our leadership journey. Looking through the lens of their own experiences, each of these leaders offer thoughts on why each of us needs a coach and must intentionally put ourselves in “the leadership gym.”
Welcome to Season One of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning.
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Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond
Facebook: Leading Second Forum https://www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646
Connect with Brandon Stewart
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Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart
Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Aug 30, 2018 • 27min
Season One Ep. 014 // Joshua Bingle on Thriving in an Imperfect Environment
Season One Ep. 014 // Joshua Bingle on Thriving in an Imperfect Environment
Many times in ministry we arrive at this conclusion: If the environment isn't perfect, I can't thrive. In this episode, Pastor Joshua Bingle returns to the podcast and joins Brandon Stewart for a challenging conversations on thriving during imperfections in ministry life. Through this episode, you'll rediscover the unique assignment that opposition and imperfection have in your life, shaping you to be a stronger leader for the Kingdom.
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Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Aug 17, 2018 • 24min
Season One Ep. 013 // Q&A from Team Church Conference (with Brandon Stewart)
Ministry isn’t an easy feat, and leading in the second chair requires the intentional seeking of wisdom. In this special episode, Leading Second founder Brandon Stewart, sheds some wisdom on a few unanswered questions submitted by leaders in the second chair at Team Church Conference 2018. Our heart for you is that in ministry you wouldn’t be so enamored by performing, or by accomplishing something, but that you would be absolutely enamored with wisdom.
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Facebook: Leading Second Forum https://www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646
Connect with Brandon Stewart
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Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Aug 9, 2018 • 22min
Live From Team Church Day 3: The Number One, Number Two (John Morgan)
LIVE from Team Church Conference, this is the Leading Second Podcast. If you were unable to attend and want to join us for a LIVE online experience, please visit: http://live.cc.church/
How do you become invaluable as the second chair leader? In this special episode, we are joined LIVE by Pastor John Morgan of City Church Chicago for a discussion on how to be "the number one, number two." The number one role is important, but ministry cannot happen without great number two's.
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Facebook: Leading Second Forum https://www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646
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Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Aug 8, 2018 • 18min
Live From Team Church Day 2: A Lead Pastor’s Perspective (Philip O’Reilly, Michael Brueseke + More)
LIVE from Team Church Conference, this is the Leading Second Podcast. If you were unable to attend and want to join us for a LIVE online experience, please visit: http://live.cc.church/
Have you ever wished you had a glimpse into what your pastors wished you knew? In this special episode, we are joined LIVE by Pastors Daniel & Jannelle Villarreal (Grace Avenue Church, San Antonio, TX), Philip O’Reilly (The Rock of KC, Kansas City, Missouri), and Michael Brueseke (Community Church, Chesapeake, VA) for a discussion on their perspective as Lead Pastors on what they wish their team members knew without them having to tell them.
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Facebook: Leading Second Forum https://www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646
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Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Aug 7, 2018 • 21min
Live From Team Church Day 1: Life as a Campus Pastor (Dan Lord, Bryce Birmingham, Kyle Heinecke)
LIVE from Team Church Conference, this is the Leading Second Podcast. If you were unable to attend and want to join us for a LIVE online experience, please visit: http://live.cc.church/
Juggling leading from the second chair isn’t always easy, something might hit the ground, but how do we choose what we let drop? In this special episode, we are joined LIVE by Pastors Dan Lord (The Life Church, Memphis, TN), Bryce Birmingham (Home Church, Calgary, Canada), and Kyle Heinecke (Fresh Life Church, Portland, OR) for a discussion on their perspective as Campus and Executive Pastors on what it’s like to lead in the second chair. It is easy when we’re not the “one in charge” to make small the calling on our lives that God has made big, but there is so much honor in leading from the second chair.
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Website: leadingsecond.com
Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond
Facebook: Leading Second Forum https://www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646
Connect with Brandon Stewart
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Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart
Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart
Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Aug 2, 2018 • 32min
Season One Ep. 012 // Jonathan Malm on The Come Back Effect
Season One Ep. 012 // Jonathan Malm on The Come Back Effect
First impressions matter greatly to our guests at church on the weekend. And leaders who lead from the second chair, we play a big part of that experience. Maybe bigger than we realize. In this episode, Christian creative and author, Jonathan Malm of San Antonio, TX, joins us for a discussion on “The Come Back Effect” — how to create a church atmosphere that will make people want to come back and why it’s important. As church volunteers and leaders, it’s easy to get stuck focusing on our function (ie. opening a door, waving, passing out a flyer), but what is far more important than our job and function is exuding our church’s culture. Culture and a feeling of belongingness is why people “come back.”
Welcome to Season One of the Leading Second Podcast. This podcast releases every Thursday morning.
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We want you in our tribe! Stay connected to all Leading Second has to offer:
Podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leading-second-podcast/id1352176626?mt=2
Website: leadingsecond.com
Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond
Facebook: Leading Second Forum https://www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646
Connect with Brandon Stewart
Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart
Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart
Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart
Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.


