

Leading Second Podcast
Brandon Stewart
A monthly podcast to help church leaders thrive in the second chair.
Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair. To learn more, visit leadingsecond.com.
Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair. To learn more, visit leadingsecond.com.
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Mar 19, 2020 • 23min
Season Three Ep. 63 // A Guide to Leading Second During COVID-19
How blessed are we to lead in a season like never before for our generation? We are truly in the local church’s greatest hour, despite the rampant fear, anxiety, and confusion that swirls around us, and quite possibly within us. Isaac Newton was faced with a similar situation in 1665 - and while sitting in his garden at home, an apple fell from a tree. The rest was history. Have you asked yourself the question of what good could come of this season? Of this situation? Not only for the church but for yourself. Point blank: Our pastors need us more than ever before - but what do they need exactly? Remember, first and foremost, we are all in this together!
Join us for a bold locker room episode as Brandon Stewart shares with us a short guide on how to lead in these unprecedented times.

Mar 12, 2020 • 37min
Season Three Ep. 62 // Authority vs. Submission: Real Talk
Have you ever been on an airplane? If you have, you’ve experienced functional leadership. The flight attendants have authority over you from the second that you step on that airplane. It doesn’t matter how smart you are, how much money you make, or even if you may know more about airplanes than the flight attendants. None of that matters. The flight attendants have been given authority over you for that flight, even though the pilot (or the airline) is the one who is ultimately responsible. In ministry, we will often be tasked with being submitted to a person who has functional authority over us, and we’ll likely have functional authority over somebody as well. How do we handle that tension in a healthy way?
Join us for this week’s episode, as we sit down with Brandon and Lindsay Stewart, Kris Seibold, and Joshua Bingle to continue the conversation on the tension of authority vs submission.
Head over to our digital magazine for some monthly questions on this tension.
https://www.leadingsecond.com/post/authority-vs-submission-discussion-questions
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Mar 5, 2020 • 32min
Season Three Ep. 61 // Brandon Stewart on The Tension of Authority vs. Submission
Am I a leader or a follower? Do I take charge or do I sit back? Do I forge a new path or do I make a u-turn?
If you are leading from the middle, the answer to all of these questions is yes. Yes, you lead. Yes, you follow. Yes, there are times where you are expected to take charge. Yes, there are times when you need to sit back. A lot of times, the answer is even yes, to both questions at the same time! This is the tension that we face of being in a place of authority vs. being in a place of submission. Leading from the middle will require you to live in both worlds frequently and be able to switch between both with ease. As we introduce this topic that we will be exploring all month long, our prayer is that God will use this topic to bring health to teams in the areas of authority and submission.
Head over to our digital magazine for some monthly questions on this tension.
https://www.leadingsecond.com/post/authority-vs-submission-discussion-questions

Feb 28, 2020 • 13min
BONUS Episode // L2 Panel on Leading in the Tensions
We're joined by Lindsay Stewart and Pastor Joshua Bingle for a discussion in a new panel format. When leading from the middle, we encounter numerous tensions that we are forced to navigate. However, just because tension exists doesn't mean that there's a problem. Let's learn how to manage tensions well. Discuss these questions with your team:
1. What is the greatest tension you are currently experiencing in your leadership journey?
2. Can you imagine God doing something good through this tension? Write down what you are believing God to do in your life through this situation.
3. The next time you experience this tension, what truth do you want to remember? Write down a verse that speaks truth over your situation, and put it somewhere memorable.

Feb 27, 2020 • 26min
Season Three Ep. 060 // Brandon Stewart on Leading in the Tensions
When you are leading from the middle, you will often experience tension. We’re not talking about disagreements with your leader or another team member. When we say tensions, we’re referring to the pressures we face as leaders in the second chair. There is a tension of being in charge, but also having somebody in charge of you. There is a tension in making sure you’re doing the right thing in a given situation. There is a tension in boundaries. When you lead in the second chair, you WILL face tensions. This season, we're going to explore the tensions common to leading from the middle. Our prayer is that you will navigate these tensions well, and that Jesus will play a beautiful song through your life.
Show Credits:
Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart
Producer: Hayden Boyd
Audio Editing: Clarke Burton
Video Editing: Clarke Burton, Dion Wiebe
Creative: Yellowbox Creative
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Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Jan 1, 2020 • 33min
Bonus NEW YEAR’S EPISODE // How to Have A Personal Revival (Brandon Stewart)
Happy New Year! As we head into a new decade, our prayer for you is that you wouldn’t just thrive in ministry... but that you would thrive spiritually. Too often in ministry, we can be guilty of succeeding in everything we’ve been asked to do, all while neglecting our own soul. This year we’re calling our tribe to have a personal revival. We believe that, as you do, Jesus will meet you and show Himself strong to you this year. Run strong for the Kingdom!
Show Credits:
Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart
Producer: Clarke Burton
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Connect with Brandon Stewart
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Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart
Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Dec 11, 2019 • 41min
Season Two Ep. 058 // Fresh Life Team on Culture Carriers Part 2
Today’s podcast is our second installment of a series that we began last week, called “Culture Carriers,” where we talk to entire teams about their culture and what it means to lead on behalf of their pastor. This conversation is with a few team members at Fresh Life Church in Montana where Pastor Levi Lusko has built something that is thriving and has grown to multiple campuses in the western part of the United States.
Show Credits:
Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart
Producer: Clarke Burton
Content: Ryan Creglow
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Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart
Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Dec 5, 2019 • 32min
Season Two Ep. 057 // Shoreline City Team on Culture Carriers Part 1
This is the first installment of a series we’re starting called Culture Carriers. For this first episode, I’m sitting down with the team at Shoreline City in Dallas, Texas, as we talk about culture, and being a culture carrier.
Show Credits:
Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart
Producer: Clarke Burton
Content: Ryan Creglow
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Connect with Brandon Stewart
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Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart
Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Nov 21, 2019 • 42min
Season Two Ep. 056 // Brandon Stewart on Should I Transition? | Noah Herrin on Leading While Young
This episode is kind of a two-for-one. We got a great listener question, that Brandon spends some time answering, about transition and knowing when it’s time. We also have a great conversation with Noah Herrin about being a young leader today. We talk through some of the challenges that come along with that, like building credibility and dealing with comparison.
Show Credits:
Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart
Producer: Clarke Burton
Content: Ryan Creglow
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Connect with Brandon Stewart
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Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart
Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.

Nov 14, 2019 • 35min
Season Two Ep 055 // Jedidiah Thurner on Calling and Covenant in Ministry
Jedidiah Thurner joins us on the podcast today with some truths and challenges about how we can better lead from the second chair. Your calling and your covenant are vital in serving and leading under your senior leader.
Show Credits:
Host and Creator: Brandon Stewart
Producer: Clarke Burton
Content: Ryan Creglow
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Instagram: instagram.com/leadingsecond
Facebook: Leading Second Forum www.facebook.com/groups/1763432817304646
Connect with Brandon Stewart
Facebook: facebook.com/brandonmstewart
Instagram: instagram.com/brandonmstewart
Twitter: twitter.com/brandonmstewart
Leading Second is an extension of the Team Church tribe. For more information on Team Church Conference and One Day events, check-out teamchurchconference.com or search Team Church on Facebook.


