High Energy Health Podcast
Dawson Church PhD
Join Dr. Dawson Church, a best-selling science writer, to explore the leading edge of health and happiness, along with practical techniques to maximize your wellbeing.
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Mar 27, 2026 • 46min
Wisdom from the Woods: Mark Langenfeld and Dawson Church in Conversation
Mark Langenfeld is the author of Wisdom from the Woods: A Year of Gentle Guidance from Mother Nature. He holds a doctorate in clinical psychology from Alliant International University in Fresno, CA. He worked as a therapist for several years. He now teaches psychology and sociology at Northwood Technical College in Superior, WI. His hobbies include juggling, hiking, gardening, meditation, rock collecting, fishing, and doing random acts of kindness.
Here Mark and Dawson reflect on:
Mark's background
The message: “Do as I do”
Why most animals will avoid conflict, they only fight if they’re cornered
Honoring Mother Nature
Buddhism
Saying: “The life energy in me honors the life energy in them”
Reflecting: “They were born an innocent baby … what happened to injure them?”
Exercise: Which of your new habits isn’t serving you?
The Student Nutrition Assistance Program
To purchase Mark's book, Wisdom from the Woods: A Year of Gentle Guidance from Mother Nature
https://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Woods-Gentle-Guidance-Mother/dp/0738782173/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church is at: http://dawsongift.com/
To purchase Dawson's latest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #nature #wisdomfromthewoods
Mar 21, 2026 • 46min
Embracing the Dark: Kelly Ann Street and Dawson Church in Conversation
Kelly Ann Street is a therapist who works with people to navigate life’s darkest moments. She is the author of Embrace the Dark. Through her writing and online programs, she helps people step into their stories and embrace both the light and shadow within.
Here she and Dawson reflect on:
Kelly's background
Exercise 1: Are you doing what feels right for your soul?
History behind: “Dark Night of the Soul”
Exercise 2: In what areas of your life do you feel numb?
Why are anxiety and depression more prevalent now?
How our brains can’t keep up with amount of info we have to take in each day
Universal consciousness
Feeling the vastness and also your own small consciousness
Breathwork
Grounding
The term “The Shadow” for unconscious parts coined by Carl Jung
Exercise 3: Which parts of you are in the shadow?
Why every generation thinks that the world is in the worst shape ever
When you can’t help the world if you’re chaotic inside
Creating regulation in your own nervous system
“All is well in my soul”
Find Kelly Ann Street online at: https://embracethedarkandthelight.com/
Host Dr. Dawson Church is at: http://dawsongift.com/
To purchase Dawson's latest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #consciousness #embracethedark
Mar 5, 2026 • 44min
Super-consciousness: Thomas Brophy and Dawson Church in Conversation
Thomas Brophy is a physicist, consciousness researcher, and President of the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS). He previously served as president of California Institute for Human Science (CIHS), a unique mind, body, spirit integral university, which achieved accreditation during his tenure. Dr. Brophy explored the science of consciousness in his 1998 book The Mechanism Demands a Mysticism: An Exploration of Spirit, Matter, and Physics. His other books explore the astronomy of prehistoric Egypt as well as extraterrestrial intelligence.
Here he and Dawson explore:
Transcendent experiences
The philosophy behind quantum mechanics
The spiritual life of scientists
Thomas' background
Why observation collapses the quantum wave into one of the many possibilities
Why anomalous experiences happen when science says they can’t
The human cycle headed towards a reconnection with spirituality
Non human intelligence
Consciousness based technologies
To learn more about the work Dr. Thomas Brophy is involved in:
https://noetic.org/
https://cihs.edu/
https://consc.org/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To purchase Dawson's latest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #consciousness #ions #humanscience #quantummechanics
Feb 19, 2026 • 47min
Uncomfortable Conversations: Tonya Lester and Dawson Church in Conversation
Tonya Lester, LCSW, is the author of Push Back: Live, Love, and Work with Others Without Losing Yourself and a Brooklyn-based psychotherapist and writer known for her work with relationships and communication. Her essay “Couples Therapist, Heal Thyself” was published in the Modern Love column in The New York Times, and she has been writing the popular Staying Sane Inside Insanity blog for Psychology Today since 2020. She has been featured as an expert in The Guardian, Newsweek, Well+Good, HuffPo, Fatherly, and the Bumble site The Buzz.
Here she and Dawson cover:
Conflict aversion
Assertiveness
Jealousy
Question: “Where do I have resentment and the other person would be surprised?”
Value of a script
Reciprocity, reliability, and communication
Should partners do therapy together or separately?
We don’t need to process absolutely everything, we can let some things go
Core vulnerabilities: incompetence, unloveable, unworthy
Noticing where you overreact
A “dread list” of things
If your emotions are getting above a 5, take a break
Speaking for your feelings not from your feelings
Reframe conflict from what divides us to what brings us closer
For more information about Tonya and her work: https://www.tonyalester.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To purchase Dawson's latest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #relationships #communication
Feb 13, 2026 • 46min
Your Personal Hero’s Journey: John Bucher and Dawson Church in Conversation
John Bucher is a renowned mythologist and story expert who has been featured on the BBC, the History Channel, the LA Times, The Hollywood Reporter and on numerous other international outlets. He serves as Executive Director for the Joseph Campbell Foundation and is a writer, podcaster, storyteller, and speaker. Holding a PhD in Mythology & Depth Psychology, he integrates scholarly insights with practical storytelling techniques, exploring the profound connections between myth, culture, and personal identity.
Here he and Dawson explore:
John's background
The life and teachings of Joseph Campbell
Mythology and Depth Psychology
Questioning: What experiences of awe are you missing?
Campbell’s take on joy and doing the inner work to discover what brings you to life
Why we don’t have enough time to pause and reflect on things that bring us alive
Exploring what makes you most alive?
The 3 large stages of the Hero's Journey: Departure, Initiation, and Return
Joseph Campbell's definition of the hero as a person who’s willing to sacrifice
Journaling to reflect on the stages of your own Hero’s Journey
To learn more: https://www.tellingabetterstory.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To purchase Dawson's latest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #mythology #psychology #hero
Jan 30, 2026 • 45min
Money Loves You: Sarah McCrum and Dawson Church in Conversation
Sarah McCrum is a money consciousness coach, author, and educator. She is the author of Love Money, Money Loves You. She helps entrepreneurs, leaders, and families create lives of genuine wealth and wellbeing by transforming their relationship with money. Through her books, courses, and live masterclasses, she invites people to experience money not as stress and scarcity, but as a supportive, loving energy that enables us to thrive.
Here she and Dawson reflect on:
Sarah's background
Why when your muscles relax your energy channels open so you're more receptive
The way money is a movement of energy
How the energy of worry compounds as more things to worry about
Energy is a form of power, currency is a transfer of power and freedom
Our relationship with money
True meaning of abundance
False belief that money has to come from a particular source
Building strength and resilience through adverse experiences
Money always tells us that it’s unlimited
How you can organize my life to create more value
How money relates to our spiritual life
The energy of money is the energy of creation, turning energy into form
To learn more about Sarah's work: https://sarahmccrum.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To purchase Dawson's latest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #money #abundance #energy
Jan 23, 2026 • 46min
Reborn in God: Anton Grosz and Dawson Church in Conversation
Anton Grosz, PhD, is an ordained Interfaith Minister, a retired Hospice Chaplain. He grew up in an atheistic family. But his life was changed when in 1978, at the age of 37, he discovered spirituality through a Near Death Experience. He is the author of several books including Letters to a Dying Friend: What Comes Next, as well as How Do I Live When I Know I’m Going To Die? His most recent book is Handbook for a New Consciousness: The Next Step in Human Evolution.
Here he and Dawson discuss:
Anton's background and near-death experience
Earth from an infinite distance
“I am reborn in God”
Why the jewel of truth is available through the door of every spiritual path
The pure consciousness with “I am” at the core
Disappearing into the oneness through meditation
Peace, love, and joy at the core of who we are
Inner stillness
To learn more about Dr. Anton Grosz and his books: https://antongrosz.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To purchase Dawson's latest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #stillness #neardeathexperience #consciousness
Jan 16, 2026 • 45min
Finding Stillness Within: Elena Brower and Dawson Church in Conversation
Elena Brower is a celebrated international yoga and meditation teacher on Glo, guiding transformative practices since 1999. Her debut book, Art of Attention, has been translated into seven languages. In 2023, she received Jukai (lay Buddhist vows) from Roshi Joan Jiko Halifax at Upaya Zen Center and is a student in Upaya’s Chaplaincy Training As part of her service, she volunteers in hospice and penitentiary settings, bringing yoga, meditation, and compassionate presence. Her most recent book, Hold Nothing, investigates what it means to let go of narratives and return to the spacious emptiness within.
Here she and Dawson reflect on:
Elena's background
The moment of change: “How do I ever stop?
The alignment of outer work with the vows and values
The sometimes scary inner world
Exercise: when you want run away, stay with it for one more breath
The point where the void ceases to be fearful
Letting go of the external extraneous realities
Why there's no way to escape sickness, old age, death, and losing everyone you love
Wisdom in the quiet
Learn more about Elena at: https://elenabrower.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To purchase Dawson's latest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #zen #stillness #holdnothing
Jan 8, 2026 • 45min
Love Beyond Words: Andrew Vidich and Dawson Church in Conversation
Andrew Vidich, PhD, is an author, educator, international speaker, and editor. Dr. Vidich has served as faculty at several universities and is a founding member of The Interfaith Council of New York. He teaches and trains people in conflict management, leadership skills, and contemplative practice in educational, corporate, and nonprofit organizations. He has been meditating, and studying and writing about meditation, since his teenage years. He is the author of Love Is a Secret and Light Upon Light, two books about the paths of the great spiritual masters, and what their journeys can teach us. Light Upon Light has recently appeared in audio, and you can download it for free if you choose it as your first book when you get an Audible membership.
Here he and Dawson reflect on:
Andrew's background
The use the word “love”
States of being that we don’t have words for
How lovers don’t meet each other, they’re in each other all along
The fundamental misconception that love is outside us
Love as the gift of the Creator to the created
Why all forms of love are derivatives of the Creator’s love
Find Andew's book, Love is a Secret, at: https://www.amazon.com/Love-Secret-Andrew-Vidich-ebook/dp/B0CL5HCDDK/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To purchase Dawson's latest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #love
Jan 3, 2026 • 48min
The Awakened Warrior: Joel Levey in Conversation with Dawson Church
Dr. Joel Levey, along with his wife Michelle, are pioneers in the global “mindfulness revolution." Through the International Center for Corporate Culture and Organizational Health, they have been introducing mindfulness into workplace as a “vital organizational operating system” for enhancing the quality of every aspect and encounter of life and work within an organization. They are the authors of Manual for the Awakening Warrior.
Here Joel and Dawson explore:
Joel's background
Consciousness research in the 70s at Washington University
Understanding human potential movement
Exercise: Feeling each of your fingers individually
Integrating high level nutrition, aikido, biofeedback and neurofeedback
Dissolving tension, regulate emotions, calm minds, contemplative mindfulness
The word for being unable to describe your feelings: Alexithymia
Exercise: Wiggle fingers, feel toes
Vipassana techniques
Releasing traumas that are encoded in the deep matrix of the body
Allowing the field of our love reach out to touch everyone
Learn more about Dr. Joel Levey at: https://www.wisdomatwork.com/
Find host Dr. Dawson Church at: http://dawsongift.com/
To purchase Dawson's latest book, Spiritual Intelligence:
https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Intelligence-Activating-Circuits-Awakened/dp/160415294X/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #spiritualintelligence #eft #meditation #highenergyhealth #sq #wisdomatwork #awakeningwarrior


