The Best Ever CRE Show

Matt Faircloth interviews Mark Kenney. Mark opens up about Think Multifamily’s rapid growth, the lending and partnership challenges that led to major losses, and the hard-won lessons that came out of it. He explains how rising interest rates, canceled tax programs, and lender aggressiveness created a perfect storm for multifamily operators, and why ignoring those red flags proved costly. Mark also discusses his personal low points, the importance of transparent communication with investors, and how he’s now rebuilding his business with a renewed focus on long-term stability, fixed-rate debt, and vertically integrated operations. Mark KenneyCurrent role: Co-Founder and CEO, Think MultifamilyBased in: Dallas, TexasSay hi to them at: https://thinkmultifamily.com/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-kenney-566065142/ Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pascal Wagner interviews Michael Alberse. Michael walks through his journey from earning $161 a month in high-yield savings interest to building over $6,000 a month in passive income through a “Frankenstein” mix of cold storage, micro private equity, small business loans, covered-call ETFs, mobile home parks, multifamily, and private money lending. He shares both the 9x home-run exit from a cold storage deal and painful lessons from chasing yield in risky rideshare and cupcake business loans, highlighting why he now prioritizes experienced, obsessive operators and better downside protection. Michael also talks about using masterminds and education to level up his due diligence, hiring a CPA, capping his check size per deal, and keeping his Google job so active income can continue to fuel his passive income portfolio and long-term lifestyle freedom goals. Michael AlberseCurrent role: Google Cloud Account Executive and creator of Micro Investing Based in: Atlanta, Georgia. Say hi to them at: https://investingmicro.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/micro.investing/ | i Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Amanda and Ash interview Charlie Kao. Charlie shares how growing up as “free labor” on his dad’s properties eventually led him back into commercial real estate, where he’s now best known for self-storage. He explains why he’s cautious on self-storage at a national level, how overbuilding and new alternatives are changing demand, and why he’s leaning into highly localized markets where he has an unfair advantage. Charlie also walks through innovative ways he’s turning basic storage into a true service business, from accepting and placing medical shipments to offering boat/RV add-ons, all while using feasibility studies and data-driven pricing to stay ahead of the competition. Charlie KaoCurrent role: Principal and Asset Manager, Twin Oaks CapitalBased in: Grand Rapids, Michigan Say hi to them at: https://www.twinoakscap.com/ | LinkedIn Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr kicks off a Capital Classroom solo session by translating big-name marketing frameworks from Russell Brunson and Alex Hormozi into practical strategies for capital raisers. He explains why LPs aren’t really buying deals, but certainty of outcomes, and how stacking proof can 2–3x your conversions by de-risking the downside and building what he calls a “trust bank account.” Richard breaks down Hormozi’s value equation and shows how debt funds, clear track records, and transparent reporting can dramatically increase the perceived likelihood of achievement for investors. He then walks through a concrete “proof sprint,” covering everything from monthly distribution tables and raw testimonials to live property tours, inspection reports, and third-party verification so your deal rooms and webinars become long-form proof engines instead of generic sales pitches. Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr interviews Julia Anderson. Julia shares her journey from running restaurant operations to launching Capital Catalyst, a fractional CMO firm helping real estate operators scale their marketing systems. She explains how effective CRM design, investor journey mapping, and consistent communication create trust that converts cold leads into long-term investors. Julia and Richard dive into practical strategies for marrying sales and marketing, building a white-glove investor experience, and knowing when your business is ready for paid ads or a full marketing department. Julia AndersonCurrent role: Founder of Capital Catalyst; Marketing Account Manager at Lightmark MediaBased in: Gilbert, ArizonaSay hi to them at: https://capitalcatalyst.com | https://lightmarkmedia.com Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Chang dives into the surprising disconnect between real estate perceptions and reality. He reveals that while Texas markets are experiencing overdevelopment and slowing growth, steady markets like Chicago and Cincinnati are outperforming. With a closer look at rent growth, vacancies, and absorption rates over five years, he highlights the importance of seeking under-the-radar markets. Chang encourages investors to challenge the herd mentality and focus on solid fundamentals rather than hype-driven trends.

John Casmon interviews Pete Schnepp. Pete shares how he went from running a contracting company to building a 150-door portfolio, including his “five years to freedom” cash-flow goal and the mindset shift from “keep it small, keep it all” to partnering through JVs. He explains why many high-net-worth partners prefer voting rights and alignment over passive LP checks, and how he supplements third-party management to beat market occupancy. You’ll hear practical tactics like speeding up turns, leveraging Facebook Marketplace for leasing, and using your “ikigai” to decide what to scale next. Pete SchneppCurrent role: Founder, Asset Stream Properties; creator of The Deal Room. Based in: Gilbert, Arizona. Say hi to them at: https://assetstreamproperties.com/ | https://peteschnepp.com/ | https://dealroomonline.com/ | LinkedIn | Instagram Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth interviews Vinney Chopra. Together they explore how Vinney transitioned from multifamily investing into senior housing and hospitality, detailing his use of diversified funds through the Avestor platform and his ability to pivot before the market peak. Vinney explains the “silver tsunami” driving massive demand for assisted living and memory care, the dual benefit of owning both the real estate and the operations, and why hotels are “apartments on steroids.” The conversation wraps with Vinney’s mindset lessons on manifestation, gratitude, and building positivity into every business challenge. Vinney ChopraCurrent role: Founder and CEO of Moneil Investment Group, Moneil Senior Living, and Moneil HospitalityBased in: Danville, CaliforniaSay hi to them at: http://vinneychopra.com/freebenefits Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pascal Wagner reveals his full due diligence process for evaluating private debt and credit funds. Drawing on his experience managing over $150 million as a venture capitalist and investing $3.3 million of his own capital across 23 private deals, Pascal shares the real questions professional investors ask before wiring money. He explains how to identify red flags in fund structures, analyze leverage and default rates, and evaluate manager credibility through a systematic, repeatable vetting process. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week’s episode of Beyond Multifamily, Amanda Cruise and Ash Patel dive into real numbers from recent deals and the systems that keep their operation moving even while traveling. Amanda breaks down a South Carolina mobile home park bought for 190k and sold for 735k, netting a little over 420k after paying back private lenders, plus a quick-turn plan on a rough 15-lot park and several land-home plays where undervalued existing homes create hidden upside. They unpack speed-to-close, encroachment fixes, broker selection, and why some manufactured homes aren’t worth relocating. Ash shares a clean investor waterfall that returns 100% of principal and pref, then splits 60-40 to GPs, highlighting alignment and when to hold versus exit. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices