

WTFinance
Anthony Fatseas
WTFinance is a podcast hosted by Anthony Fatseas breaking down the complex world of finance, investing and trading to make it accessible for everyone. We provide weekly interviews with Finance, Trading and Investing experts on YouTube and Podcast platforms. WTFinance believes knowledge of Finance and Investing is a right everyone should have access to. Our ambitions is to provide this to the world through our podcast and future offerings. If you would like to collaborate, please email us at - whatthefinance@hotmail.com
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Apr 25, 2025 • 42min
Liquidity Shock Threatens Global Economy with Brent Johnson
Interview recorded - 21st of April, 2025 On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I have the pleasure of welcoming on Brent Johnson. Brent is the CEO of Santiago Capital, has twenty years experience in financial markets and is well known for coining the “Milkshake theory”.During our conversation we touched on the Milkshake theory, the risk of a sovereign crisis, what this means for the markets currently, realignment of the world worder, who are the losers and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:22 - Milkshake theory4:15 - Sovereign crisis7:20 - All things link back to debt & dollar?9:14 - China worse than the West?11:28 - Misallocation of capital?16:40 - Swap lines20:31 - What is happening in the economy?24:16 - Foreigners selling US assets?26:31 - Dollar shortage28:39 - Realignment of world order32:09 - Who is the loser?35:31 - Impact investment approach?38:56 - One message to takeaway?Brent Johnson brings over twenty years of experience in the financial markets to his position as CEO of Santiago Capital. Prior to that, Brent enjoyed more than nine years as a Managing Director at BakerAvenue Asset Management, a multi-billion dollar asset manager and wealth management firm. He was the lead advisor for several of the firm’s largest clients. Before joining BakerAvenue, Brent spent nine years at Credit Suisse in their private client group. He got his start as part of the training program at Donaldson, Lufkin & Jenrette (DLJ) which became part of Credit Suisse in the fall of 2000. Brent regularly gives interviews and speaks at conferences regarding financial markets & macroeconomic trends. His views have been quoted in numerous print, online and television outlets. Brent Johnson -Fund - https://santiagocapital.com/X - https://x.com/SantiagoAuFundNewsletter - https://macroalchemist.com/YouTube - @MilkshakesPod WTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas

Apr 23, 2025 • 46min
Currency Crisis As Debt Explodes Out of Control with Matthew Piepenburg
Interview recorded - 17th of April, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Matthew Piepenburg. Matthew is a Partner of Von Greyerz AG.During our conversation we spoke about the current state of the economy, tariffs, why all problems lead to debt and liquidity, a complete shift in the world order, collapse of the FIAT currency and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction0:57 - What are you seeing in the economy?8:39 - Tariffs impact on liquidity20:14 - Complete shift in the world order?29:49 - Collapse of FIAT currencies41:14 - One message to takeaway from our conversation?Matt began his finance career as a transactional attorney before launching his first hedge fund during the NASDAQ bubble of 1999-2001Thereafter, he began investing his own and other HNW family funds into alternative investment vehicles while operating as a General Counsel, CIO and later Managing Director of a single and multi-family office. Matthew worked closely as well with Morgan Stanley’s hedge fund platform in building a multi-strat/multi-manager fund to better manage risk in a market backdrop of extreme central bank intervention/support. The conviction that precious metals provides the most reliable and longer-term protection against potential systemic risk led Matt to join VON GREYERZ.The author of the Amazon No#1 Release, Rigged to Fail, Matt is fluent in French, German and English; he is a graduate of Brown (BA), Harvard (MA) and the University of Michigan (JD). Along with Egon von Greyerz, Matthew is the co-author of Gold Matters, which offers an extensive examination of gold as an historically-confirmed wealth-preservation asset.Matthew Piepenburg - LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/matthewpiepenburgWebsite - https://vongreyerz.gold/WTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas

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Apr 21, 2025 • 46min
Contrarian Investor Warns About Buying the Dip with Jason Shapiro
Join hedge fund manager and trading legend Jason Shapiro, who brings over 30 years of experience to the table. He discusses the risks of buying the dip in volatile markets and emphasizes the importance of caution in investing. Jason shares personal lessons from his trading journey, highlighting common mistakes traders make. He advocates for a contrarian approach, urging listeners to reassess their strategies based on market psychology. With insights into market reactions to bad news, he underscores the need for confirmation before making crucial trading decisions.

Apr 18, 2025 • 26min
Bond Warning as Tariffs Drive Inflation Higher with Peter Boockvar
Interview recorded - 14th of April, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Peter Boockvar. Peter is a CNBC Contributor, Chief Investment Officer of Bleakley Financial Group & Editor of the Boock Report. During our conversation we spoke about what he is watching, Tariffs, DOGE, impact on the stock market, inflation, a bifurcating world, assets to perform and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction0:45 - What is Peter watching?1:26 - Tariffs3:53 - DOGE7:27 - MAG7 impacted9:01 - Inflation14:29 - Bonds14:48 - Bifurcation of global world?18:21 - Wealth divide22:39 - Commodities24:16 - One message to takeaway?Peter Boockvar is an independent economist and market strategist. The Boock Report is independently produced by Peter Boockvar. Peter Boockvar is also the Chief Investment Officer of Bleakley Financial Group, LLC a Registered Investment Adviser. The Boock Report and Bleakley Financial Group, LLC are separate entities. Content contained in The Boock Report newsletters should not be construed as investment advice offered by Bleakley Financial Group, LLC or Peter Boockvar. This market commentary is for informational purposes only and is not meant to constitute a recommendation of any particular investment, security, portfolio of securities, transaction or investment strategy. The views expressed in this commentary should not be taken as advice to buy, sell or hold any security. To the extent any of the content published as part of this commentary may be deemed to be investment advice, such information is impersonal and not tailored to the investment needs of any specific person. No chart, graph, or other figure provided should be used to determine which securities to buy or sell. Consult your advisor about what is best for you.Peter Boockvar - X - https://x.com/pboockvar?lang=enSubstack - https://peterboockvar.substack.com/WTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas

Apr 16, 2025 • 39min
Gold to Rise as Currency Value Collapses with Rick Rule
In this engaging conversation, Rick Rule, former President & CEO of Sprott U.S. Holdings, shares his vast expertise in commodities. He discusses how current tariffs are impacting global trade and America’s competitive edge against China. Rick highlights the potential for gold and precious metals amid ongoing currency devaluation. He also delves into the significance of adapting to a bifurcated economy, the influence of AI on labor, and upcoming opportunities in natural resource investments. A must-listen for anyone intrigued by financial trends!

Apr 2, 2025 • 25min
Economic Breakdown as Stock Market Crashes with Chris Vermeulen
Interview recorded - 20th of March, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Chris Vermeulen. Chris is the Founder & Chief Market Strategist at The Technical Traders. During our conversation we spoke about his views on the market, risk of a crash, shift of momentum, precious metals, how long do cycles last and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:00 - Chris’ view on markets4:10 - Market crash?6:20 - Shift of momentum9:02 - Precious metals11:14- How long do cycles last?15:12 - Picking the bottom17:20 - Global crash?20:45 - Treasuries22:40 - One message to takeaway from our conversation?Chris Vermeulen is a visionary investor who pioneered an industry-breaking method of investing called “Asset Revesting.” Chris introduced this innovative approach in his latest book, “Asset Revesting – How to Exclusively Hold Assets Rising in Value, Profit During Bear Markets, and Continue Building Wealth in Retirement.“Chris’s journey in the financial world began in 1997 at 16. Using his innate talent for trading and risk management, Chris earned enough money to pay for his final year of college, where he earned a business diploma in operations management. He then transitioned into a full-time entrepreneur and trader, achieving financial freedom in his 20s.His expertise in technical analysis led him to create systematic processes that uncover unique trading and investment opportunities. A persistent advocate for managing portfolio risk, Chris has little faith in the buy-and-hold strategy, which often entails holding onto depreciating assets.Chris’s innovative approach to asset allocation emphasizes efficiency, resulting in systems that manage portfolio positions, exhibit low drawdowns, and consistently outperform the markets. His short-term and long-term strategies are perfect for those seeking proven techniques to manage and protect capital.Chris is widely recognized as an exceptional technical trader, possessing profound insight and a keen understanding of market trends. He shares his wisdom in his book “Technical Trading Mastery, Second Edition – 7 Steps to Win with Logic,” further solidifying his reputation as a trailblazer in the financial industry.Chris Vermeulen - Website - https://thetechnicaltraders.com/Twitter - https://twitter.com/TheTechTradersYouTube - @TheTechnicalTraders WTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas

Mar 21, 2025 • 35min
Market Pain as Economy Crashes with Michael Oliver
Interview recorded - 13th of March 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Michael Oliver. Michael is the founder of Momentum Structural Analysis.During our conversation we spoke about the current risk of a recession, what this means for markets, why there could be a long bear market, gold, the commodity super cycle and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:17 - Thoughts on markets?6:13 - How do you define a market?10:51 - Surprised about market strength?20:51 - Dollar to come down22:11 - Recession24:41 - Gold32:26 - Commodity super cycle?J. Michael Oliver entered the financial services industry in 1975 on the Futures side, joining E.F. Hutton’s International Commodity Division, headquartered in New York City's Battery Park. He studied under David Johnston, head of Hutton’s Commodity Division and Chairman of the COMEX.In the 1980s Mike began to develop his own momentum-based method of technical analysis. He learned early on that orthodox price chart technical analysis left many unanswered questions and too often deceived those who trusted in price chart breakouts, support/resistance, and so forth.In 1987 Mike technically anticipated and caught the Crash. It was then that he decided to develop his structural momentum tools into a full analytic methodology.In 1992 the Financial VP and head of Wachovia Bank's Trust Department asked Mike to provide soft dollar research to Wachovia. Within a year, Mike shifted from brokerage to full-time technical research. He is also the author of The New Libertarianism: Anarcho-Capitalism.Michael Oliver - Website - https://www.olivermsa.com/Twitter - https://twitter.com/Oliver_MSAWTFinance -Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes -https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-fatseas-761066103/Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas

Mar 19, 2025 • 42min
DOGE Crippling the US Economy with Dr Steve Keen
Interview recorded - 15th of March, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I have the pleasure of welcoming on Dr Steve Keen. Steve is a critically acclaimed economist who is looking to debunk traditional economics. During our conversation we spoke about the current state of the global economy, why economists have everything wrong, why Trump should not be cutting the deficit, what this will lead to and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:19 - Overview of global economy3:24 - Why is cutting the deficit wrong?6:26 - Government spending sustainable?20:19 - UK poor example21:01 - Best deficit?23:46 - Interest rates not an issue30:31- Financialisation39:46 - One message to takeaway from our conversation?Steve Keen is an Australian economist and author. He considers himself a post-Keynesian, criticising neoclassical economics as inconsistent, unscientific, and empirically unsupported.Keen was formerly an associate professor of economics at University of Western Sydney. In 2014, he became a professor and Head of the School of Economics, History and Politics at Kingston University in London. He has since taken retirement and is crowd source funded to undertake independent research as well as being a Distinguished Research Fellow at the Institute for Strategy Resilience & Security, University College London.Steve Keen - YouTube - @ProfSteveKeen Substack - https://profstevekeen.substack.com/Website - https://www.stevekeenfree.com/free-book7X - https://x.com/ProfSteveKeenWTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas

Mar 14, 2025 • 37min
Unravelling of the Western Hegemony with Alex Krainer
Interview recorded - 14th of March, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I have the pleasure of welcoming on Alex Krainer. Alex is has worked as a market analyst, researcher, trader and hedge fund manager since 1996. He is the founder Krainer Analytics and creator of I-System Trend following. During our conversation we spoke about the geopolitical overview, why the world order is shifting, whether the US is different to the West, restructuring of the economy, the uniparty, impacts on the market and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:39 - Geopolitical overview3:47 - Why is world order shift being ignored?5:44 - When did shift begin?9:17 - US different to the rest of the West13:26 - Corporate colonialism17:07 - Restructuring of the economy18:47 - Can the West rise again?24:07 - Uniparty 27:57 - How does this impact markets?34:42 - One message to takeaway from conversation?Alex is the founder of Krainer Analytics and creator of I-System Trend Following. He has worked as a market analyst, researcher, trader and hedge fund manager since 1996. Alex was born and raised in a socialist regime of former Yugoslavia, under one-party communist rule. As a 17-year old he joined a student exchange program and took up his university studies there, ultimately transferring to Switzerland on a scholarship where he completed a degree in Business and Economics.From Switzerland his path led him to Venezuela where he lived for a year and experienced his first banking crisis in 1994 when 9 of Venezuela’s 16 largest banks failed and brought the country’s economy to a grinding halt. The same year he returned to Croatia and joined the military where he served through 1995 during the last phases of Croatia’s war of independence. In 1996, upon discharge from the military, Alex took employment at an oil trading company in Monaco. In 1998 he became the head of risk and CEO in 2000. Alex had originated the firm’s research and development program in market analysis and application of neural networks and artificial intelligence in trading of financial and commodities markets. By 2007 Alex launched his own investment management business and was among the small minority of managers who generated positive investment returns (+27%) during the 2008 financial crisis. Over the following six years, his fund outperformed the Dow Jones Credit Suisse index of Blue Chip commodity futures trading funds. In 2011 Alex Joined Lee Robinson’s Altana Wealth to manage the firm’s inflation hedging strategy. In 2019 Alex created Altana Wealth’s systematic portfolio allocation strategy designed to bridge the gap between technology and finance. In more recent years, Alex also busied himself as an author. He published his first book “Mastering Uncertainty in Commodities Trading” in 2015. In 2021 this book was selected as #1 on Financial-Expert.co.uk’s list of “The 5 Best Commodities Books for Investors and Traders.” In 2017 he published “The Grand Deception” which is available exclusively from the RedPill Press. In 2021 he published “Alex Krainer’s Trend Following Bible.”Alex Krainer - X - https://x.com/NakedHedgieI-System - https://isystem-tf.com/Substack - https://alexkrainer.substack.com/Trend Compass - https://isystem-tf.com/trendcompass/WTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas

Mar 12, 2025 • 32min
The Coming Economic Reset in 2025 with Edward Dowd
Interview recorded - 11th of March, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming on Edward Dowd. Edward is the Founder of Phinance Technologies and author of Cause Unknown.During our conversation we spoke on his current views on the markets, why the economy is struggling, Mainstreet vs Wallstreet, Biden immigration policy, shift from capital to labour, economic reset, which assets to perform and more. I hope you enjoy!Economic Outlook -https://phinancetechnologies.com/Product_USEconomyOutlook2025.htm0:00 - Introduction1:34 - Current view of markets?5:55 - Why was economy struggling?8:56 - Biden immigration policy11:14 - Mainstreet vs Wallstreet13:42 - Government spending, regulation, spending16:02 - Shift from capital to labour?18:00 - Global Economy22:00 - Force Powell to cut rates?23:12 - Secular shift?25:20 - System leverage27:22 - Which assets to perform?30:07 - One message to takeaway?Edward Dowd is currently a founding partner with Phinance Technologies. He has worked on Wall Street the majority of his career, most notably at Blackrock as a portfolio manager where he managed a $14 billion Growth equity portfolio for ten years. Edward's book Cause Unknown: The Epidemic of Sudden death in 2021 & 2022 propelled him as an alternative voice during the pandemic and the economic implications that continue to plague us today. Phinance's unique alternative macroeconomic analysis of the global debt crisis and what may unfold has given many a deeper understanding of the global nature of our problems today.Edward Dowd:Website - https://phinancetechnologies.com/Home.aspX - https://x.com/DowdEdwardWTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas


