Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast

Leslie Henthorn, the Chief Marketing Officer at Ironclad, hosts a riveting conversation with Mary O'Carroll, a notable figure in legal operations and former Google leader. They explore Mary's unconventional career journey, her decision to join Ironclad, and the bittersweet process of leaving it. Together, they discuss the necessity of authentic community in legal tech, the complexities of balancing motherhood with career ambitions, and the transformative power of mentorship. Mary hints at exciting new ventures on her horizon!

Welcome to another episode of "Pearls On, Gloves Off," where we dive deep into the challenges and innovative strategies within the legal and corporate world. Today, Mary is joined by Mick Cox, the VP of Legal Operations at Procore Technologies. They dive deep into the evolution of legal operations and the dynamic journey of growing a legal team from scratch. They explore the challenges and triumphs faced while going through career transitions and the strategies for thriving in high-growth environments. In this Episode: Career Transitions: Mick shares their journey from Salesforce to UC and then Procore, highlighting the unique experiences and lessons learned in each role. Procore's Evolution: Discover how Procore, a cloud solution for the construction industry, has scaled and how its legal team has evolved in tandem. Legal Ops Insights: The crucial role of legal operations in fast-growing companies, including strategies for effective team growth and process improvement. Team Building: Tips on building and managing a top-tier legal team, including the importance of adaptability, empathy, and a disdain for the status quo. Cultural Impact: How company culture and leadership influence the effectiveness of legal operations and team morale. Tech and Process: The intersection of legal technology and process improvement, and how to prioritize both for optimal efficiency. Enjoyed this conversation? Don't forget to subscribe to "Pearls On, Gloves Off" for more insightful discussions with leading figures in the legal and corporate sectors. Share your thoughts and join the conversation on our social media channels. Follow Mary on LinkedIn: Mary's LinkedIn Follow Ironclad on LinkedIn: Ironclad LinkedIn Watch Ironclad on YouTube: Ironclad YouTube Check out Ironclad on TikTok: Ironclad TikTok Rate and review on Apple Podcasts: Pearls On, Gloves Off - Apple Podcasts

Welcome to another episode of "Pearls On, Gloves Off," where we dive deep into the challenges and innovative strategies within the legal and corporate world. Today, our guest is Andrew Krug, Head of Legal Operations at Twitch, the video live streaming service known for its focus on video game live streaming and esports competitions. Andrew brings a wealth of experience from diverse industries including technology, healthcare, defense, and gaming, making him a unique leader in legal operations. In this Episode • The importance of program management skills in legal operations. • Shifting from traditional legal functions to a more integrated, data-driven approach. • The critical role of adaptability and leadership in managing legal operations. • Insights into the structure and responsibilities of the Twitch legal department. • The difference between project, program, and product management and why these distinctions matter. • How Twitch is leveraging program management to handle regulatory compliance and improve legal operations. • The role of technology and data in modernizing legal operations. • Andrew's journey into legal operations and the benefits of a non-legal background in this field. • Effective people management and leadership strategies in legal operations. • Training and development for legal operations professionals. Enjoyed this conversation? Don't forget to subscribe to "Pearls On, Gloves Off" for more insightful discussions with leading figures in the legal and corporate sectors. Share your thoughts and join the conversation on our social media channels. Follow Mary on LinkedIn: Mary's LinkedIn Follow Ironclad on LinkedIn: Ironclad LinkedIn Watch Ironclad on YouTube: Ironclad YouTube Check out Ironclad on TikTok: Ironclad TikTok Rate and review on Apple Podcasts: Pearls On, Gloves Off - Apple Podcasts

Three past and current CLOC presidents, including Jenn McCarron and Mike Haven, discuss Legal Ops 3.0, data-driven approaches, and the impact of AI on legal operations. They explore the future of Legal Ops, the role of blockchain in data integrity, and the need for transformation in industries. The conversation also touches on leadership transitions, expertise delegation, and the evolving skills required in legal operations leadership.

Listen to GC Matt Campobasso from Enfusion as he discusses proactive legal leadership, emphasizing prevention over reaction. Discover his evolved leadership style, strategic influence within Enfusion, and the importance of cultural integration in legal considerations.

In this episode of Pearls On, Gloves Off, Mary is joined by Misha Glouberman, an acclaimed author, advisor, and coach who excels in the art of effective communication and managing difficult conversations. Together, they explore the intricate dance between analytic thinking and emotional understanding in the workplace. Mary and Misha delve into: • Effective Communication: Misha underscores the critical importance of balancing analytical and emotional aspects in communications, focusing on real-world business problems that stem from human challenges like miscommunication and conflict avoidance. • The Human Element in Business: They discuss how most organizational issues are essentially human problems and the value of addressing these to achieve tangible outcomes. • Navigating People Problems: With insights from Misha's book, The Chairs Are Where the People Go, which has been highly praised for its insightful approach to everyday issues, they explore practical strategies for better interpersonal interactions. • Technology's Role: The conversation touches on how technology impacts human interactions in business settings, emphasizing the need for a harmonious integration of tech solutions and human-centric approaches. • Personal Insights: Misha provides personal anecdotes and professional advice on fostering effective communication within teams, emphasizing transparency, empathy, and the need for strategic personal interactions. Follow & Connect: Follow Mary on LinkedIn: Mary's LinkedIn Follow Ironclad on LinkedIn: Ironclad LinkedIn Watch Ironclad on YouTube: Ironclad YouTube Check out Ironclad on TikTok: Ironclad TikTok Rate and review on Apple Podcasts: Pearls On, Gloves Off - Apple Podcasts

Mary, solo host, shares insights from CLOC Global Institute 2024. She discusses the evolving role of AI in legal operations, market dynamics of CLM systems, global legal ops trends, and strategic planning. Mary delves into challenges in legal operations roles, navigating the evolving legal industry, and embracing innovation.

Note from producer: This is an updated version that addresses an audio issue in the original. Thanks for bearing with us. In this episode of Pearls On, Gloves Off... Mary and Ashley John dig into the dynamic world of legal operations. Ashley, the Head of Legal Operations at Anglo American, brings a unique perspective from his background in mining and geology to his strategic role in a global mining giant. Key Highlights: Introduction to Ashley John: Transitioning from geology to legal ops. Establishing a strategic vision in a multinational team. State of Legal Ops: The contraction of senior roles. Has the industry delivered on its promise? Quick Wins vs. Long-Term Strategy: Building credibility with immediate successes. Balancing short-term wins with strategic projects. Rising Expectations: Clear communication about role expectations. Creating space for transformative projects. Reputation and Credibility: Consistent wins to establish trust. Ashley's journey from consultant to dedicated legal ops leader. Changing Landscape: Companies adding and eliminating roles. The drive for rapid transformation and value demonstration. General Counsel's Role: Setting the tone for success. Leading with a strategic mindset. Inclusive Language: Moving away from terms like "non-lawyer" and "alternative". Promoting more inclusive terminology. Future of Law Firms: Impact of AI on legal processes. Will the billable hour model survive? The need for a change in mindset. Culture of Innovation: Embracing AI and new technologies. Fostering adaptability within legal teams. Join Mary and Ashley for an insightful discussion on the evolution and future of legal operations, the challenges of the industry, and the transformative potential of AI. Follow Mary on LinkedIn: Mary O'Carroll Follow Ironclad: LinkedIn YouTube TikTok Rate and Review on Apple: Apple Podcasts

In this episode of Pearls On, Gloves Off, Mary O'Carroll sits down with Anna Richards, Director of Global Legal Operations at John Deere. With over 15 years of experience, Anna brings deep insights from companies like Autodesk, Zendesk, and Micron Technology.Mary and Anna dig into: Transitioning to John Deere: Anna details her onboarding journey, where Deere laid the groundwork by first understanding the role of legal operations and investing in its success. Unique Challenges: As one of the few remote employees, Anna shares the importance of relationship-building and progress-making despite her unique work arrangement. Diverse Roles: Anna reflects on her legal ops journey across different companies, sharing how no two roles are the same and how each experience is valuable. Technology in Legal Ops: They discuss how John Deere aims to become a tech-forward company, targeting 10% recurring revenue by 2030. This requires significant investments in tech tools and IT partnerships. Setting Up Success: Mary highlights the necessity of strategic hiring and the importance of investment in support, vendors, tech, and tools. Creating Buy-In: Anna talks about Deere's strategic approach to building the legal ops function, conducting surveys to identify opportunities and building a business case for stakeholder buy-in. Current Projects: From implementing an enterprise-wide CLM system to aiming for 50,000 hours saved by 2026, Anna shares her ambitious goals and hiring plans. Follow Us and Stay Connected: Follow Mary on LinkedIn: Mary's LinkedIn Follow Ironclad on LinkedIn: Ironclad LinkedIn Watch Ironclad on YouTube: Ironclad YouTube Check out Ironclad on TikTok: Ironclad TikTok Rate and review on Apple Podcasts: Pearls On, Gloves Off - Apple Podcasts linkedin.com Mary O'Carroll - Ironclad, Inc. | LinkedIn Please reach out if I can be helpful at all. I love to provide (free!) advice on scaling… · Experience: Ironclad, Inc. · Location: San Francisco Bay Area · 500+ connections on LinkedIn. View Mary O'Carroll's profile on LinkedIn, a professional community of 1 billion members. linkedin.com Ironclad | LinkedIn Ironclad | 27,926 followers on LinkedIn. Ironclad is the smart way to make and manage digital business contracts. Now powered by Ironclad AI. | Ironclad is the #1 contract lifecycle management platform for innovative companies, powering billions of contracts every year. L'Oréal, Salesforce, OpenAI and other leading innovators use Ironclad to collaborate and negotiate on contracts, accelerate contracting while maintaining compliance, and turn contracts into critical carriers of operational business intelligence. It's the only platform flexible enough to handle every type of contract workflow, whether a sales agreement, an HR agreement or a complex NDA. YouTube Ironclad CLM Software Ironclad is the digital contract platform loved by modern business teams.Contracts are business decisions trapped in administrative tasks. Ironclad is software that does all the administrative work better left for a computer, freeing teams -- legal, sales, procurement, finance, HR, etc -- to do substantive work and drive business strategy.We believe contracts should be business assets. Some document management vendors focus on contracts as risk assets: documents that, when poorly managed, expose companies to significant, surprising risks. While not knowing what's in your contracts can certainly be dangerous, we prefer to focus on the valuable intelligence you can extract from them to drive… Show more Apple Podcasts ‎Pearls On, Gloves Off - Legal Operations, Contracting, Change Management, and Career Growth on Apple Podcasts

In this episode of "Pearls On, Gloves Off," Mary sits down with Dawn Hinz, legal operations leader at Avery Dennison. Together, they dive into the nuances of leading and transforming the legal ops landscape. In The Episode: Exploring Strategy and Improvement: Dawn's role at Avery Dennison: strategy development, process enhancement, and resource optimization. She shares her methodologies in change management and the hurdles faced during large-scale tech implementations. Cultivating Success: The critical elements that foster a successful legal operations function—supportive culture, robust leadership, and the essential skills needed. Dawn discusses her approach to team building and the traits she values in potential hires. Overcoming Resistance: The common challenges of introducing new systems within firms and how to effectively manage resistance to change. The significance of being a proactive change agent equipped with strategic and program management prowess. Lessons from Dell: Dawn reflects on her tenure at Dell, discussing the evolution of legal operations and the importance of a comprehensive understanding of business processes. They discuss striking the right balance between mitigating risks and maintaining operational efficiency. Demonstrating Value: They emphasize the ongoing need to support legal operations and ways to showcase its impact. Dawn offers her personal advice for aspiring legal ops professionals, urging them to embrace leadership roles, seize learning opportunities, and initiate change. Connect with Us: Follow Mary on LinkedIn: Mary O'Carroll Follow Ironclad on LinkedIn, YouTube, and TikTok Support the Podcast: Love the show? Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. Your feedback helps us grow and reach new listeners!