

The Long View
Morningstar
Expand your investing horizons and look to the long term. Join hosts Christine Benz, Amy C. Arnott, and Ben Johnson as they talk to influential leaders in investing, advice, and personal finance about a wide-range of topics, such as asset allocation and balancing risk and return.
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Mar 10, 2021 • 40min
Bill Bernstein: We're Starting to See all of the Signs of a Bubble
Our guest this week is noted author and advisor, William Bernstein. Bill’s background and entree to finance is unique--a neurologist by training, Bill taught himself the principles of investing and asset allocation, eventually parlaying that knowledge into a successful financial advisory practice and a series of influential, critically acclaimed books such as The Intelligent Asset Allocator, The Four Pillars of Investing, If You Can: How Millennials Can Get Rich Slowly, and his latest, The Delusions of Crowds.Background BioBooks“Bernstein: ‘I Don’t Think the System Needs Nudges. I Think the System Needs Dynamite,’”The Long View Podcast, May 7, 2019. Current Market EnvironmentThe Wisdom of Crowds, by James Surowiecki“A Stock Market Bubble Is Forming,” by John Rekanthaler, Morningstar.com, Oct. 20, 2020.“From 1720 to Tesla, FOMO Never Sleeps,” by Jason Zweig, wsj.com, July 17, 2020.“The 4 Pillars of Investing,” by Larissa Fernand, Morningstar.com, June 19, 2020.“4 Ways Today’s Stock Market Resembles That of the Late 1990s,” by John Rekenthaler, Morningstar.com, March 4, 2021. Inflation, Bonds, and Other Asset Classes“The Case for Minimizing Risk in Your Bond Holdings,” by William Bernstein, wsj.com, Oct. 18, 2015.Inflation, Deflation, Confiscation & Devastation--The Four Horsemen of Risk,” by Wade Pfau, forbes.com, March 4, 2020. “What if Inflation Isn’t Dead?” by John Rekenthaler, Morningstar.com, Aug. 11, 2020.Pioneering Portfolio Management: An Unconventional Approach to Institutional Investment by David F. Swensen.“Fran Kinniry: Applying the Vanguard Approach to Private Equity,” The Long View Podcast, April 1, 2020. “What Are SPACs and Should I Care?” by David Sekera, Morningstar.com, March 2, 2021. Retirement“How to Think About Risk in Retirement,” by William Bernstein, wsj.com, Nov. 30, 2014.“Retirement Planning When You Have Enough,” by Christine Benz, Morningstar.com, Sept. 11, 2020."Of Viruses, Distressed Sales, and Stocks' 'Rightful Owners,' " by Bill Bernstein, efficient frontier.com, 2020. ETFs“No Room on the ARK?” by Ben Johnson and Bobby Blue, Morningstar.com, March 3, 2021. “Digging Into ARK Innovation’s Portfolio,” by Amy Arnott, Morningstar.com, Feb. 18, 2021. “Gerard O’Reilly: Control for the Unexpected, Focus on the Expected,” The Long View Podcast, Jan. 26, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 3, 2021 • 51min
Meg Bartelt: 'More Money Does Not Make You Happier'
Our guest on the podcast today is financial advisor Meg Bartelt. She started Flow Financial Planning, a fee-only practice, geared toward providing financial guidance for women in the technology sector in 2016. Prior to starting Flow Financial, Meg worked for a fee-only Registered Investment Advisor in Virginia and was a technical writer for 10 years in the San Francisco Bay Area. She received her master's degree in financial planning from Golden Gate University, and her Bachelor of Arts in economics from Wellesley College. She is also a certified financial planner.BackgroundBioFlow Financial Planning“How to Prepare for the Surprising Costs of Motherhood,” by Stacy Rapacon, money.usnews.com, Nov. 5, 2018.Niche Marketing and Life Planning “The Who, What, and Why of Hiring a Business Coach,” by Meg Bartelt, xyplanningnetwork.com, Dec. 15, 2016.“The Efficiency Benefits of Niching From the Start to Launch an Advisory Firm,” by Michael Kitces, Kitces.com, July 23, 2018.XY Planning NetworkGrace Hopper Celebration“My Takeaways From #GHC18. And Yes They’re All About Money,” by Meg Bartelt, flowfp.com, Oct. 2, 2018.“What Can You Negotiate For? Pretty Much Anything. What SHOULD You Negotiate For?” by Meg Bartelt, flowfp.com, Jan. 20, 2021.EVOKE: A Life Planning Methodology“George Kinder: A Financial Plan Needs to Be a Life Plan,” The Long View Podcast, Morningstar.com, Jan. 20, 2021. Investments and Financial Planning“If You Work in Tech Your 401(k) Is Probably Not Enough,” by Meg Bartelt, you.women2.com, June 22, 2017.“Pay Attention to Your Employee Benefits,” by Meg Bartelt, you.women2.com, April 4, 2018.“If you Have RSUs and Your Company Just Went Public, You Miiiight Want to Check Your Tax Situation,” by Meg Bartelt, flowfp.com, May 24, 2019.“Lessons From Airbnb’s IPO,” by Meg Bartelt, flowfp.com, Dec. 21, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 24, 2021 • 50min
Hamish Douglass: On the Hunt for Super-Compounding Stocks
Our guest this week is Hamish Douglass. He is the co-founder, chairman, and chief investment officer of Magellan Financial Group, a roughly $80 billion asset-management firm with headquarters in Sydney. Among his duties, Douglass is lead manager of the Magellan Global Equity strategy, which is a concentrated portfolio of high-quality growth stocks. That strategy has been very successful since its July 2007 inception, handily beating its benchmark, the MSCI World Index, with significantly less risk. Before forming Magellan in 2006, Douglass was co-head of global banking for Deutsche Bank in Australia and New Zealand. He received his undergraduate degree from the University of New South Wales.BackgroundBioFrontier MFG Global Equity"The Essential Balance: Independent Thinker, Team Player," by Rebecca Thurlow, The Wall Street Journal, Dec. 11, 2006."Learn More About Magellan's Global Equity Strategy," Magellan, July 2019."Being a Successful Investor," by Hamish Douglass, MFG Asset Management.Investment Style and Portfolio Construction"10 Cognitive Biases That Can Lead to Investment Mistakes," by Hamish Douglass, Magellan, May 2017."Business Model Disruption Has Barely Begun," by Hamish Douglass, Firstlinks, Oct. 15, 2017."Business Model Disruption--Part 2," by Hamish Douglass, Firstlinks, Oct. 19, 2017."Passive Investing and Disruption," by Hamish Douglass, Magellan, July 2017.“13 of the best: reflections from an investor,” by Hamish Douglass, Firstlinks, July 31, 2019."Hamish Douglass' Map for Investing This Decade," by Vesna Poljak, Financial Review, Jan. 24, 2020."Hamish Douglass on What Really Matters," by Hamish Douglass and Frank Casarotti, Firstlinks, Oct. 21, 2020."What Sort of Economy Awaits on the Other Side? Hamish Douglass Shares Four Possibilities," by Vishal Teckchandani, Livewire, April 1, 2020."Magellan to Offer Low-Cost Investment Strategies," by Charlotte Grieve, The Sydney Morning Herald, Aug. 13, 2020."China's Clampdown on Jack Ma's Ant Boosts Rivals," by Sun Yu and Tom Mitchell, Financial Times, Feb. 18, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 17, 2021 • 49min
Russel Kinnel: 'Fear and Greed Are the Enemy of Good Investing'
Our guest today is Russ Kinnel. Russ is director of manager research for Morningstar Research Services and the longtime editor of the Morningstar FundInvestor newsletter. As part of his duties, Russ chairs the North America ratings committee that oversees and approves the Morningstar Analyst Ratings that Morningstar's manager research analysts assign to the funds they cover. A mainstay of our research efforts for years, Russ has authored a number of well-known and widely cited studies, including the annual “Mind the Gap” study of investor returns, and is frequently quoted in the financial media. Russ is a graduate of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, where he received his bachelor's degree in economics.BackgroundBioBooksAuthor Page Morningstar FundInvestor Related Articles“Environmental, Social, and Governance Investing,” Morningstar.com.“What Helen Young Hayes’ Departure Means to Janus,” by Russ Kinnel, April 21, 2003.“Lessons From the Bill Gross Saga,” by John Rekenthaler, Morningstar.com, Oct. 1, 2014.“Flows + Bloat = Headaches for Funds,” by Russ Kinnel, Morningstar.com, March 27, 2017.“Fink: BlackRock Continues to Evolve,” by Daniel Culloton, Morningstar.com, April 28, 2017.“Enhancement to Sustainability Rating Emphasizes Material ESG Risk,” by Jon Hale, Morningstar.com, Nov. 8, 2019. “Where the Medalists Are,” by Christine Benz and Russ Kinnel, Morningstar.com, Sept. 15, 2020.“The Best Fund Companies and Their Ratings,” by Russ Kinnel, Morningstar.com, Jan. 28, 2020.“Flowmageddon: Is it Time Yet?” by Russel Kinnel, Morningstar.com, July 24, 2020.“Mind the Gap: How Do Investor Returns Stack Up Against Total Returns?” by Amy C. Arnott, Morningstar.com, Aug. 18, 2020.“Can Bond Funds Grow Large More Gracefully Than Stock Funds?” by Christine Benz and Russ Kinnel, Sept. 22, 2020.“Farewell, Mutual Funds,” by John Rekenthaler, Morningstar.com, Jan. 21, 2021.“A Quick Survey of Investment Vehicles,” by Russ Kinnel, Morningstar.com, Jan. 20, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 10, 2021 • 45min
NYT's Ron Lieber on What and How to Pay for College
Our guest on the podcast today is The New York Times financial columnist and author Ron Lieber. His latest book is called The Price You Pay for College: An Entirely New Road Map for the Biggest Financial Decision Your Family Will Ever Make. He is also the author of The Opposite of Spoiled: Raising Kids Who Are Grounded, Generous, and Smart About Money and coauthor of Taking Time Off: Inspiring Stories of Students Who Enjoyed Successful Breaks From College and How You Can Plan Your Own. Ron has been the "Your Money" columnist for The New York Times since 2008. Before coming to The Times, he wrote the "Green Thumb" personal finance column for The Wall Street Journal and was part of the startup team at the paper's “Personal Journal” section. He attended Amherst College.BackgroundBioBooksCollege in the Pandemic“Remote Learning Is Unequal. Coronavirus Changed That--For Now,” by Jonathan Zimmerman, thephiladelphiainquirer.com, April 8, 2020.“Spelman College Faces a Redefined Reality,” by Mary Schmidt Campbell, nytimes.com, April 23, 2020.“Colleges Won’t Refund Tuition. Autumn May Force a Reckoning,” by Ron Lieber, nytimes.com, May 1, 2020.“Back to School: How the Coronavirus Could Shape the Future of Higher Education,” by Karen Wallace, Morningstar.com, Nov. 9, 2020. “Will College Tuition Go Down Because of the Pandemic?” by Norman Vanamee, townandcountrymag.com, Feb. 4, 2021.School Choice and CostWhere You Go Is Not Who You’ll Be: An Antidote to the College Admission’s Mania, by Frank Bruni, March 8, 2016. “The Price You Pay for College, 21 Important Questions to Ask,” by Ron Lieber, grownandflown.com, Jan. 23, 2021.“College Costs Are Less Terrifying Than You Think,” by Ron Lieber, nytimes.com, Jan. 28, 2021.“How to Pay for College (and Not Lose Your Shirt),” by Ron Lieber, nytimes.com, Jan, 26, 2021.“How Taking a Gap Year Can Shape Your Life,” by Ron Lieber, nytimes.com, Oct. 19, 2016.Financial Aid and Merit Aid“How to Predict Merit Aid in a Strange College Application Season,” by Ron Lieber, nytimes.com, Sept. 25, 2020.“How to Ask a College for More Financial Aid,” by Ron Lieber, nytimes.com, April 25, 2020.“What a $300,000 College Might Cost a $200,000 Family,” by Ron Lieber, nytimes.com, Oct. 3, 2020.“High School Grades Could Be Worth $100,000. Time to Tell Your Child?” by Ron Lieber, nytimes.com, Jan. 23, 2021.“FAFSA’s Expected Family Contribution Is Going Away. Good Riddance,” by Ron Lieber, nytimes.com, Jan. 4, 2021.“Inside College Merit Aid—and the Manipulative, Lucrative System That Keeps it Running,” by Ron Lieber, nbcnews.com, Feb. 4, 2021. Loans“Parent PLUS Loans: What You Need to Know,” by Kimberly Rotter and Bob Musinski, usnews.com, Feb. 7, 2020.“For Millions Deep in Student Loan Debt, Bankruptcy Is No Easy Fix,” by Ron Lieber and Tara Siegel Bernard, nytimes.com, Nov. 18, 2020.“An Invisible Cost of College: Parental Guilt,” by Ron Lieber, nytimes.com, Feb. 3, 2021.“Here’s a Guide to How Grandparents Can Help Pay for College,” by Ron Lieber, marketwatch.com, Feb. 2, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 3, 2021 • 56min
David Giroux: 'What Are the Market Inefficiencies We Can Exploit?'
BackgroundBioT. Rowe Price Capital Appreciation“Morningstar Announces 2012 Fund Manager of the Year Award Winners,” by Scott Burns, Morningstar.com, Jan. 3, 2013. “Announcing Morningstar’s 2017 U.S. Fund Managers of the Year,” by Laura Pavlenko Lutton, Morningstar.com, Jan. 28, 2018“This Fund Manager Is Among the Greats,” by Leo Acheson, Morningstar.com, Dec. 2, 2020.Outlook/Forecast“2021 Global Market Outlook: Managing to the Other Side,” by David Giroux, Justin Thomson, and Mark Vaselkiv, troweprice.com, Dec. 14, 2020. “What it’s Like to Buy $9 billion in Stocks During a Market Crash—This Fund Manager Did Just That,” by Philip van Doorn, marketwatch.com, June 4, 2020.ReorganizationT. Rowe Price Investment Management Overview“Is T. Rowe’s Split a Smart Way to Handle Growth?” by Katie Rushkewicz Reichart, Morningstar.com, Nov. 19, 2020.Portfolio Construction & Stock-Picking“Why Every Growth Stock Portfolio Should be Overweight in Utilities,” by Sergei Klebnikov, forbes.com, Nov. 21, 2019.“Finding Overlooked Opportunities in the COVID-19 Market,” by David Giroux, troweprice.com, Sept. 10, 2020.“An Investor Bought Billions in Stocks When it Really Hurt,” by Tim Gray, nytimes.com, July 10, 2020.“Creativity in a Low-Yield Era,” by David Giroux and Mark Vaselkiv, troweprice.com, Jan, 21, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jan 27, 2021 • 56min
Gerard O’Reilly: Control for the Unexpected, Focus on the Expected
Our guest this week is Gerard O'Reilly. Gerard is co-CEO and chief investment officer of Dimensional Fund Advisors, an asset manager headquartered in Austin, Texas, that manages more than $600 billion using a systematic investing approach. In his role, Gerard works with his co-CEO, Dave Butler, to set the firm's vision and strategy while also overseeing its investment processes. Prior to assuming his current post, Gerard was Dimensional's head of research. In addition to serving as a Dimensional director, Gerard co-chairs the firm's Investment Research Committee and is a member of its Investment Committee. Gerard obtained his doctorate in aeronautics from the California Institute of Technology and his master's degree in high-performance computing from Trinity College, Dublin.BackgroundBio“Dimensional Eyes the Fund Sector’s Trillion-Dollar Club,” by Owen Walker, thefinancialtimes, March 31, 2019.ETF Launch “Dimensional Fund Advisors Significantly Expands ETF Offering,” dimensional.com, Nov. 17, 2020.“Dimensional Investing in an Active ETF Structure,” dimensional.com, Nov. 17, 2020.“Dimensional Funds ETFs Launch as Quant Plans to Convert Mutual Funds,” by Claire Ballentine, Bloombergquint, Nov. 19, 2020.“Why Dimensional Fund Advisors Is Converting Six of its Mutual Funds to the ETF Format,” by Lizzy Gurdus, cnbc.com, Dec. 1, 2020. Innovation, Value, and Return“Market Beaters: A Different Dimension,” by Beverly Goodman, barrons.com, Jan. 6, 2014.“3 Shades of Value,” by Daniel Sotiroff, Morningstar.com, Sept. 26, 2018.“Robert Merton on Financial Innovation,” by Robert C. Merton, dimensional.com, June 24, 2019.“The Real Reason Value Has Been Lagging Growth,” by Julie Segal, institutionalinvestor.com, Oct. 24, 2019.“Tesla’s Charge Reveals Weak Points of Indexing,” dimensional.com, Jan. 15, 2020.“Untangling Intangibles,” by Savina Rizova and Namiko Saito, dimensional.com, Sept. 28, 2020.“An Exceptional Value Premium,” dimensional.com, Oct. 5, 2020. “Securities Lending Fees as a Short-Term Driver of Stock Returns,” by Kaitlin Simpson Hendrix and Gavin Crabb, dimensional.com, Nov. 11, 2020.ESG“Sustainability Report,” dimensional.com, Dec. 31, 2020.“Burton Malkiel: ‘I Am Not a Big Fan of ESG Investing,’ ” The Long View podcast with Christine Benz and Jeff Ptak, Morningstar.com, Aug. 5, 2020.“Dimensional Finds ‘Little Evidence’ Emissions Are Linked to Expected Returns,” by Christine Idzelis, institutionalinvestor.com, Oct. 22, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jan 20, 2021 • 43min
George Kinder: A Financial Plan Needs To Be a Life Plan
Our guest on the podcast today is George Kinder. He founded the Kinder Life Institute, which trains financial professionals in the field of what's called Life Planning after a 30-year career as a practicing financial planner and tax advisor. George is also the author of several books dedicated to teaching advisors about life planning: The Seven Stages of Money Maturity, Lighting the Torch, and Life Planning for You. He was the first winner of the Financial Planning Association's Heart of Financial Planning Award, which recognizes "individuals who demonstrate commitment and passion in doing extraordinary work to contribute or give back to the financial planning community and/or the public."BackgroundBioThe Kinder Institute of Life PlanningBooksThe Genesis & Discovery Process of Life PlanningEVOKE:® A Life Planning Methodology“Psychology and Life Planning,” by George Kinder and Susan Galvan, kinderinstitute.com.“George Kinder: Three Questions About Life Planning,” by J.D. Roth, getrichslowly.org, Feb. 15, 2009.“Financial Planner Vs. Financial *Life* Planner. Which One Is the “Right One” for Me?” by Cristina Livadary, manafld.com, Jan. 24, 2020.“Kinder: Wisdom and Life Planning in the Coronavirus Era,” by George Kinder, financialplanningtoday.co.uk, April 6, 2020.Financial AdviceWebinar: “George Kinder on Work-Life Balance--Life Planning & Mindfulness,” by George Kinder, brighttalk.com, Jan. 28, 2016.Seven Stages of Money Maturity WorkshopEVOKE® 5-Day Life Planning TrainingLife Planning for You Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jan 13, 2021 • 47min
Steve Chen: 'How Do You Deliver Lifetime Income?'
Our guest on the podcast today is Steve Chen. Steve is the founder and CEO of NewRetirement.com, which he describes as a TurboTax for financial planning. NewRetirement advisors also offer one-on-one financial advice and coaching with certified financial planners. Prior to founding NewRetirement, Steve founded venture-backed companies in education and financial services and worked as a consultant at firms including Charles Schwab, Fidelity, and Dimensional Fund Advisors. He also hosts the NewRetirement podcast and contributes to Forbes. Steve received his Bachelor of Science in systems engineering from Boston University.Background BioNewRetirement.com Retirement Planning“Podcast: Nobel Prize Winner Robert Merton on Fixing Retirement,” by Steve Chen, newretirement.com, July 5, 2018.“The Future of Retirement Planning Is Already Here, It’s Just Not Evenly Distributed,” by Stephen Chen, soa.org, 2018.“Why Retirement Decumulation Is the New Accumulation,” by Stephen Chen, forbes.com, Sept. 30, 2019. “5 Steps to Ensure Your Money Lasts Through Retirement,” by Steve Chen, moneytalksnews.com, Jan. 6, 2021.The Pandemic & Retirement “2021: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly,” by Stephen Chen, forbes.com, Sept. 7, 2020.“Kerry Hannon: Remote Work Trend Benefits Older Workers,” The Long View Podcast with Christine Benz and Jeff Ptak, Morningstar.com, Oct. 21, 2020.“The Most Dangerous Age for Retirement,” by Stephen Chen, forbes.com, Nov. 1, 2020.Spending & Withdrawal Rates“Tax-Efficient Retirement Withdrawal Strategies,” by Stephen Chen, forbes.com, Dec. 17, 2018. “5 Mistakes to Avoid When Shopping for Annuities,” by Steve Chen, newretirement.com, June 27, 2020.“5 Steps for Defining Your Retirement Drawdown Strategy,” by Steve Chen, newretirement.com, June 29, 2020.“The Pros and Cons of Annuities: How to Evaluate Annuities for Your Retirement,” by Kathleen Coxwell, newretirement.com, Sept. 15, 2020.“Karsten Jeske: Cracking the Code on Retirement Spending Rates,” The Long View Podcast with Christine Benz and Jeff Ptak, Morningstar.com, Oct. 14, 2020.Zvi BodieSocial Security & Long-Term Care“The Actual Costs of Long-Term Health Care,” by Kathleen Coxwell, newretirement.com, July 3, 2020. “Changes Coming to Social Security & Medicare: Small COLA and 6 Other New Developments for 2021,” by Kathleen Coxwell, newretirement.com, Oct. 14, 2020.“Serious Medical Crisis: Many Retirees Will Require Long-Term Care, but Few Will Be Able to Afford It,” newretirement.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jan 6, 2021 • 52min
Liz Ann Sonders: 'We Could See Some Inflation Scares'
Our guest on the podcast is Liz Ann Sonders, who is senior vice president and chief investment strategist at Charles Schwab. In her role, Sonders is responsible for conducting market and economic analysis, which she and her team publish in a variety of forms. She also regularly appears in the financial media and was recently named to the Barron's "100 Most Influential Women in Finance" list. Sonders joined Schwab in 2000, when the firm acquired her prior employer, U.S. Trust. Before that, she was a managing director and senior portfolio manager at Avatar Associates. Sonders received her bachelor's degree from the University of Delaware and her Master of Business Administration from Fordham University's Gabelli School of Business.BackgroundLiz Ann Sonders' bio Market Outlook"Schwab Market Perspective: Watching the Wheels," by Liz Ann Sonders, Jeffrey Kleintop, and Kathy Jones, Charles Schwab, Dec. 11, 2020."2021 U.S. Market Outlook: Better Days?" by Liz Ann Sonders, Charles Schwab, Nov. 30, 2020."2020 Mid-Year Outlook: U.S. Stocks and Economy," by Liz Ann Sonders, Charles Schwab, June 15, 2020."2020 U.S. Market Outlook: Ramble On? by Liz Ann Sonders, Charles Schwab."Another Tricky Day," by Liz Ann Sonders, AdvisorAnalyst.com, Aug. 11, 2020.Martin Zweig's Winning on Wall Street"What Is Don't Fight the Fed?" by Kent Thune, The Balance, July 15, 2020."Fed Aims to Help Nurse the Economy Back to Health," by Liz Ann Sonders, AdvisorAnalyst.com, April 30, 2020."The Song Remains the Same: Fed Keeps Rates/Balance Sheet Steady," by Liz Ann Sonders, Charles Schwab, Dec. 16, 2020. The Pandemic and the Future"How the U.S. Economic Stimulus Package May Affect Investors," by Schwab Center for Financial Research, March 27, 2020."Schwab's Liz Ann Sonders Puts Odds of Stimulus at Slim to None," by Jeff Benjamin, InvestmentNews, Oct. 28, 2020."Triage: Throwing Everything at the Virus," by Liz Ann Sonders, AdvisorAnalyst.com, March 24, 2020."Schwab's Sonders, Kleintop Predict Weak Start for Economy in 2021," by Jeff Berman, ThinkAdvisor, Dec. 20, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


