

The Long View
Morningstar
Expand your investing horizons and look to the long term. Join hosts Christine Benz, Amy C. Arnott, and Ben Johnson as they talk to influential leaders in investing, advice, and personal finance about a wide-range of topics, such as asset allocation and balancing risk and return.
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Nov 22, 2022 • 55min
Dr. Preston Cherry: ‘Money and Life Intertwined’
A financial planner and financial planning professor on the value of mentors at every life stage, the evolution of financial advice, and what works in financial education. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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Nov 15, 2022 • 52min
Feraud Calixte: ‘Your Self-Worth Is Not Your Net Worth’
Our guest on the podcast today is Feraud Calixte. Feraud is the founder and lead financial planner of Vantage Pointe Planning, which is a fee-only financial planning firm based in Burlington, North Carolina. He started Vantage Pointe in order to serve clients who weren’t being served by the traditional models for financial advice, especially those who don’t meet an asset minimum and business owners with a lot of their net worth tied up in their firms. Before starting Vantage Pointe, Feraud worked as an advisor for several large wealth management firms. He currently serves as a national board member for the National Association of Personal Financial Advisors, and he also frequently teaches financial literacy courses. Investment News named Feraud to its 40 under 40 list of financial advisors under the age of 40. He earned his undergraduate degree from New York University and his law degree from Southern University Law Center. He is also a CFP certificant.BackgroundBioInvestment News 40 Under 40: Feraud Calixte“Business Spotlight #5—Feraud Calixte,” City of Burlington, Economic Development Department, burlingtonnc.gov.com, Jan. 6, 2022.Financial Education and AdviceNational Organization for the Professional Advancement of Black Chemists and Chemical Engineers (NOBCChE)“Financial Education to Stoke Wealth Creation for Diverse Groups,” by Bloomberg, investmentnews.com, Sept. 18, 2018.“Blue Ocean: The Future Is Bright for Financial Planners,” by Feraud Calixte, feraudcalixte.substack.com, Nov. 12, 2021.Current Environment“Bonds vs. Bond Funds: What’s the Difference?” by Kent Thune, thebalancemoney.com, April 26, 2022.“Should You Invest in Individual Bonds or Bond Funds Today?” by Christine Benz and Susan Dziubinski, Morningstar.com, April 20, 2022.OtherGarrett Planning NetworkNAPFA Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Nov 8, 2022 • 56min
Roger Whitney: ‘Retirement Planning Is Not Financial Planning’
Our guest on the podcast today is Roger Whitney. Roger hosts the popular Retirement Answer Man podcast, and he’s also the author of a book called Rock Retirement: A Simple Guide to Help You Take Control and Be More Optimistic About the Future. He’s also senior financial planner at Agile Retirement Management and the creator of the Agile Retirement Management Process. Roger has a CFP certificate and has earned numerous other designations, including the accredited Investment Fiduciary, Certified Investment Management Analyst, and Retirement Management Advisor designations. Investopedia has named him to its list of 100 Top Financial Advisors in the U.S. on five occasions.BackgroundBioThe Retirement Answer Man podcastRock Retirement: A Simple Guide to Help You Take Control and Be More Optimistic About the Future, by Roger WhitneyRock Retirement ClubCurrent Environment, Tax Matters, and In-Retirement Spending″#309: Crashes, Retirement, and Bears, Oh My! How to Protect Your Retirement Lifestyle,” The Retirement Answer Man podcast, rogerwhitney.com, Jan. 22, 2020.″#421: How Will Inflation Impact My Retirement?” The Retirement Answer Man podcast, rogerwhitney.com, Feb. 9. 2022.“#411—Overcoming Frugality,” The Retirement Answer Man podcast, rogerwhitney.com, Dec. 1, 2021.“#386: Retirement Withdrawal Strategies: The Safety-First Approach,” The Retirement Answer Man podcast, rogerwhitney.com, July 14, 2021.“#282: Is an Annuity Right for Retirement? The Pros and Cons of Fixed Annuities,” The Retirement Answer Man podcast, rogerwhitney.com, July 17, 2019.“The RISA Framework: A Systemized Approach to Personalizing Retirement Income Strategies for Clients,” by Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau, kitces.com, April 20, 2022.“#456: Should I Switch My Bond Portfolio to CDs?” The Retirement Answer Man podcast, rogerwhitney.com, Oct. 12, 2022.“#310: Crashes, Retirement, and Bears, Oh My! Investing in Retirement: The Pie Cake,” The Retirement Answer Man podcast, rogerwhitney.com, Jan. 29, 2020.“How to Simplify Your Decision Making Process for Retirement Planning,” by Roger Whitney, forbes.com, Oct. 13, 2020.“#455: Which Account Should I Begin Drawing From First In Retirement?” The Retirement Answer Man podcast, rogerwhitney.com, Oct. 5, 2022.Real Estate“#383—Listener Questions: Should I Pay Off the Mortgage or Keep the Cash if I’m About to Retire?” The Retirement Answer Man podcast, rogerwhitney.com, June 23, 2021.“#452—Should We Consider a Mortgage for Building Our Retirement House?” The Retirement Answer Man podcast, rogerwhitney.com, Sept. 14, 2022.Other“Dana Anspach: How to Build an All-Weather Retirement Plan,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Oct. 18, 2022.“#311: Will I Need Long-Term Care? Reviewing the Statistics With Christine Benz From Morningstar,” The Retirement Answer Man podcast, rogerwhitney.com, Feb. 5, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Nov 1, 2022 • 54min
Morgan Housel: ‘Little Rules About Big Things’
Our guest this week is Morgan Housel. Morgan was one of our first guests on The Long View back in May 2019, and we’re happy to welcome him back. Morgan is a partner at The Collaborative Fund, a venture capital firm. He is also a successful author—his first book, The Psychology of Money, having sold more than 2 million copies and been translated to 49 languages. In addition to his book, Morgan frequently publishes content to The Collaborative Fund’s blog and is active on social media at @MorganHousel. He is a two-time winner of the Best in Business Award from the Society of American Business Editors and Writers, winner of The New York Times Sydney Award, and a two-time finalist for the Gerald Loeb Award for Distinguished Business and Financial Journalism. He also serves on the board of directors at Markel.BackgroundBioThe Psychology of Money, by Morgan HouselCollab BlogStorytelling and Advice“What’s the Curse of Knowledge, and How Can You Break It?” by Loren Soelro, Ph.D., psychologytoday.com, April 28, 2021.Cancer: The Emperor of All Maladies, Ken Burns Presents a Film by Barak GoodmanRobert A. Weinberg“Best Story Wins,” by Morgan Housel, collabfund.com, Feb. 11, 2021.“Never Saw It Coming,” by Morgan Housel, collabfund.com, April 25, 2022.“Deep Roots,” by Morgan Housel, collabfund.com, March 31, 2022.Contradictions and EnoughThe Economist“Little Rules About Big Things,” by Morgan Housel, collabfund.com, Oct. 11, 2022.“Expectations (Five Short Stories),” by Morgan Housel, collabfund.com, Oct. 6, 2022.“Good Enough,” by Morgan Housel, collabfund.com, Sept. 7, 2022.“Surprise, Shock, and Uncertainty,” by Morgan Housel, collabfund.com, March 3, 2022.Randomness, Chance, and Happiness“Tails, You Win,” by Morgan Housel, collabfund.com, July 26, 2022.The Intelligent Investor: The Classic Text on Value Investing, by Benjamin Graham“Wealth vs. Getting Wealthier,” by Morgan Housel, collabfund.com, June 28, 2022.“Low Expectations,” by Morgan Housel, collabfund.com, March 9, 2022.Behavioral and HistoryThe Great Depression: A Diary, by Benjamin Roth“We’ll Get Through This,” by Morgan Housel, collabfunds.com, March 9, 2020.Daniel KahnemanJason Zweig“The Big Lessons of the Last Year,” by Morgan Housel, collabfunds.com, April 2, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Oct 25, 2022 • 56min
Julien and Kiersten Saunders: ‘How Much Is Enough?’
Our guests on the podcast today are Kiersten and Julien Saunders. Together they blog about finance and life at the website richandregular.com. And they’re also the authors of a new book called Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away. In addition, they co-host the rich & REGULAR podcast. After discovering the Financial Independence, Retire Early movement in 2012, they proceeded to pay off $200,000 in debt and walked away from their corporate jobs before turning 40.BackgroundBiorich & REGULAR podcastMoney on the TableCashing Out: Win the Wealth Game By Walking Away, by Julien and Kiersten SaundersFinancial Independence, Retire Early and Financial Wellness“How My Experience as a Black Entrepreneur Shaped My Views on Building Financial Freedom,” by Julien Saunders, success.com, Oct. 17, 2022.“They’re on a Mission to Bring FIRE Back to the Black Community. ‘It Is Harder, But It Is Still Possible’,” by Kimanzi Constable, time.com, Sept. 16, 2022.“Tanja Hester: The Pandemic Will Stoke Interest in Early Retirement,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, June 3, 2020.“Paula Pant: A Different Path to Financial Independence,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Jan. 18, 2022.Rich Dad Poor Dad, by Robert KiyosakiBooks by Dr. Dennis Kimbro“From Homeowner to Landlord (Park 1 of 2),” rich & REGULAR blog, richandregular.com, Feb. 27, 2020.“From Homeowner to Landlord (Part 2 of 2),” rich & REGULAR blog, richandregular.com, March 26, 2020.Erin LowryThe Racial Wealth Gap“The Racial Wealth Gap: How Did We Get Here?” richandregular.com, Feb. 6, 2019.“A Black Couple Who Retired Early Says There’s a ‘Black Tax’ on Common Wealth-Building Strategies,” by Leo Aquino, businessinsider.com, June 3, 2022.“Michelle Singletary: ‘You Need Diversity,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, July 1, 2020.“Lynnette Khalfani-Cox: ‘There’s a Huge Wealth Gap in America,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Sept. 27, 2021.Financial Advice and Education“New Ariel-Schwab Black Investor Survey Shows Black Americans Continue to Trail Their White Counterparts in Building Wealth,” aboutschwab.com.“4 Investing Rules Even ‘Regular’ People Can Use to Get Rich,” by Julien and Kiersten Saunders, money.com, June 14, 2022.Junior Achievement BizTown“Our Experiment With Cryptocurrency,” richandregular.com, Jan. 10, 2019.“How to Offset the Cost of Education With a 529 Plan,” rich & REGULAR podcast, July 11, 2021.Reading RainbowNeil deGrasse TysonOther“Talking to Mom About Money,” Money on the Table, youtube.com, Aug. 2, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Oct 18, 2022 • 58min
Dana Anspach: How to Build an All-Weather Retirement Plan
Dana Anspach, Founder and CEO of Sensible Money, shares her insights on retirement planning and decumulation strategies. She dives into the impact of sequence risk on retirement savings and how to adapt plans amid rising inflation. Dana discusses the concept of varying spending patterns in retirement and the importance of budgeting for unexpected expenses. She also highlights the benefits of delaying Social Security benefits and using individual bonds for stability. Additionally, she addresses the unique needs of women investors in financial planning.

Oct 11, 2022 • 47min
Bob Pisani: Everyone Talks Their Book on Wall Street
Our guest on the podcast today is Bob Pisani. Bob is senior markets correspondent for CNBC, and he is also the author of a new book called Shut Up and Keep Talking. He got his start at CNBC covering the real estate market, then moved on to cover corporate management issues before becoming on-air stocks editor in 1997. In addition to covering the global stock market, he also covers initial public offerings, exchange-traded funds, and financial market structure for CNBC. Prior to joining CNBC, Bob co-authored Investing in Land: How to Be a Successful Developer. He and his father taught a course in real estate development at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania from 1987 through 1992.BackgroundBioShut Up and Keep Talking: Lessons on Life and Investing From the Floor of the New York Stock Exchange, by Bob PisaniInvesting in Land: How to Be a Successful Developer, by Robert Pisani and Ralph Pisani“Confessions of a Deadhead: 40 Years With the Grateful Dead,” by Bob Pisani, cnbc.com, July 1, 2015.Helping Investors“Bob Pisani: Lessons I Learned Watching the Financial Crisis Unfold From a Front-Row Seat at NYSE,” by Bob Pisani, cnbc.com, Sept. 7, 2018.“15 Big Ideas in ‘Disruptive Innovation’ According to Cathie Wood, Ark Funds,” by Chris Katje, yahoo.com, Feb. 1, 2021.Behavioral Finance and MarketsWhat is Groupthink?John MulherenIrrational Exuberance, by Robert ShillerInfluencesArt CashinWalter CronkiteJack Welch“Jack Welch’s Approach to Leadership,” by Claudio Fernandez-Araoz, hbr.org, March 3, 2020.Other“U.S. Stock Market Is Taking Hits, But We’re Still Doing Better Than the Rest of the World,” by Bob Pisani, cbnc.com, Oct. 7, 2022.“Billionaire Warren Buffet Swears by This Inexpensive Investing Strategy That Anyone Can Try,” by Bob Pisani, cnbc.com, Oct. 3, 2022.“The Signs Traders Are Watching to Signal the Stock Market Has Bottomed,” by Bob Pisani, cnbc.com, Sept. 26, 2022. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Oct 4, 2022 • 57min
Dave Nadig: Peering Into the Future of Indexing, Governance, and Financial Technology
Our guest this week is Dave Nadig. Dave is Financial Futurist at VettaFi, a data and research firm that focuses on the ETF industry as well as nascent technologies like digital assets. Dave boasts decades of experience analyzing and writing about the investment management business both at VettaFi and before that at ETF.com. Dave is a sought-after speaker and frequently quoted in the media on matters pertaining to the ETF industry, market structure, and many other topics. He is also the author of a book on ETFs called A Comprehensive Guide To Exchange-Traded Funds. Dave received his bachelor's degree in Creative Writing from the University of Massachusetts Amherst and his MBA from Boston University.BackgroundBio@DaveNadigVettaFiA Comprehensive Guide to Exchange-Traded Funds, by Dave NadigFuturism and Innovation“Financial Futurist,” by Dave Nadig, etftrends.com.“Tokenize Absolutely Everything,” by Dave Nadig, etfdb.com, Nov. 19, 2021.Indexing “ETF Prime: Dave Nadig on the Ethics of Indexing,” by Dave Nadig, nasdaq.com, May 17, 2022.“Dimensional’s Conversion of Mutual Funds Into ETFs Pays Off,” by Beagan Wilcox Volz, ft.com, July 14, 2022.“Bloomberg: Dave Nadig on Single-Stock ETF Risks,” by Aaron Neuwirth, etfdb.com, Aug. 19, 2022.“ETF Edge: Dave Nadig Talks Direct Indexing,” by Aaron Neuwirth, etftrends.com, Sept. 13, 2021.“Commentary: Direct Indexing: A Point Solution for Global Crises,” by Dave Nadig, jii.pm-research.com, May 19, 2022.“Direct Indexing Is Like Customizing a Tesla, but With Your Portfolio, Investor Says,” by Lizzy Gurdus, cnbc.com, Sept. 16, 2021.“Are You in the Retirement ‘risk zone’? These Investments Might Be Able to Protect You,” by Robert Powell, MarketWatch, July 15, 2022.Governance and Regulation“Proposed Legislation Promises to Empower Investors. What to Know,” by Lauren Foster, barrons.com, June 14, 2022.“The INDEX Act: The Next ESG Battle Is for Your Vote,” by Dave Nadig, etftrends.com, Aug. 5, 2022.“VettaFi’s Mid-Year Research Update: Big Picture,” by Dave Nadig, etfdb.com, July 15, 2022.“The Inelastic Market Hypothesis: A Microstructural Interpretation,” by Jean-Philippe Bouchaud, arvix.org, January 2022.“Yahoo Finance: Dave Nadig Discusses Investing Amidst Rising Rates, Crypto, and ESG,” by Karrie Gordon, etftrends.com, April 14, 2022.“The Tricky Politics of Anti-ESG Investing,” by Liam Denning, washingtonpost.com, May 19, 2022.Asset Allocation“ETF Edge: Dave Nadig on Changes to the 60-40 Portfolio,” Nasdaq.com, April 19, 2021.“Don’t Kill the 60/40 Portfolio: Vanguard Consultant,” by Bernice Napach, thinkadvisor.com, Aug. 3, 2021.“TD Ameritrade: Dave Nadig on ESG and Bond Trends,” by Aaron Neuwirth, etftrends.com, May 3, 2021.“Yahoo Finance: Dave Nadig on Alternative Allocations,” by Aaron Neuwirth, yahoo.com, May 25, 2022.Advice Market “Yahoo Finance: Dave Nadig Putting Crypto in Focus,” by Aaron Neuwirth, etftrends.com, May 19, 2021.“Announcing the New Kitces AdvisorTech Directory and the State of the (Nerd’s Eye View) Blog,” by Michael Kitces, kitces.com, Jan. 31, 2022.KnudgeCrypto and ETFs“Nadig Appears on ETF Edge to Talk Emerging Markets, Value Investing, Crypto, and More,” by Evan Harp, etftrends.com, Aug. 29, 2022.“Bitcoin Futures ETF: Lucy & the Football?” by Dave Nadig, etftrends.com, Aug. 31, 2021.“How to Talk to your Client About NFTs,” by Dave Nadig, etftrends.com, March 30, 2021.“The Problem With a Bitcoin Futures ETF,” by Dave Nadig, etftrends.com, Oct. 12, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 27, 2022 • 55min
David John: Improving the Retirement System
Our guest on the podcast today is David John. David is a senior strategic policy advisor at the AARP Public Policy Institute, where he works on pension and retirement savings issues. He also serves as deputy director of the Retirement Security Project at the Brookings Institution. RSP focuses on improving retirement savings in the United States, especially among moderate and low-income workers. Before joining AARP, David was a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. He also has extensive public policy experience working for a money center bank, a law firm, a credit union trade association, and four members of the House of Representatives. David has written and spoken extensively about the importance of reforming the nation's retirement programs. He is co-author with J. Mark Iwry of the Automatic IRA, a small business retirement savings program for firms that do not sponsor any other form of retirement savings or pension plan. In addition, David is one of four co-editors of the 2009 book Automatic: Changing the Way America Saves. David holds an ABJ in journalism, an M.A. in economics, and an MBA in finance—all from the University of Georgia.BackgroundBioAutomatic: Changing the Way America Saves, by William G. Gale, J. Mark Iwry, David C. John, and Lina WalkerRetirement Landscape“How to Make Retirement Saving Easier for Millions of Americans,” by Renu Zaretsky, taxpolicycenter.org, Oct. 6, 2021.“Small Retirement Accounts: Issues and Options,” by David C. John, J. Mark Iwry, Christopher Pulliam, and William G. Gale, brookings.edu.com, September 2021.“Cashing Out: The Systemic Impact of Withdrawing Savings Before Retirement,” Savings Preservation Working Group, tsretirement.com, Oct. 29, 2019.“How Auto IRAs Could Soon Improve Retirement for Millions of Americans,” by David C. John and J. Mark Iwry, brookings.edu.com, Oct. 20, 2021. “The Current State of U.S. Workplace Retirement Plan Coverage,” by John Sabelhaus, repository.upenn.edu, March 2022.“How Can the Retirement System Help More People Afford Retirement?” by William G. Gale, David C. John, and J. Mark Iwry, brookings.edu, Aug. 3, 2021.“Nontraditional Workers Face Multiple Barriers to Saving for Retirement,” by Alison Shelton and John Scott, pewtrusts.org, Nov. 9, 2021.“How to Take Portfolio Withdrawals in a Market Downturn,” by Adam Shell, aarp.org, March 25, 2022.“State Auto-IRAs Continue to Complement Private Market for Retirement Plans,” by Theron Guzoto, Mark Hines, and Alison Shelton, pewtrusts.org, July 25, 2022.“The Automatic IRA at 15: Helping Americans Build Retirement Security,” by J. Mark Iwry and David C. John, brookings.edu, Feb. 12, 2021.Emergency Savings “Brigitte Madrian: ‘Inertia Can Actually Be a Helpful Thing,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, April 22, 2020.“Building Emergency Savings Through Employer-Sponsored Rainy-Day Savings Accounts,” by John Beshears, James J. Choi, Mark Iwry, David C. John, David Laibson, and Brigitte C. Madrian, hbs.edu, 2020.“Saving at Work for a Rainy Day: Results From a National Survey of Employees,” aarp.org, Dec. 4, 2018.Retirement Decumulation“When Income Is the Outcome: Reducing Regulatory Obstacles to Annuities in 401(k) Plans,” by J. Mark Iwry, William Gale, David John, and Victoria Johnson, brookings.edu, July 2019.“The SECURE Act: A Good Start but Far More Is Needed,” by J. Mark Iwry, David C. John, and William G. Gale, brookings.edu, Jan. 8, 2020. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 20, 2022 • 55min
Tim Steffen: Tax-Saving Strategies for a Falling Market
Our guest on the podcast today is Tim Steffen, director of tax planning for Baird. In his role, Tim researches, writes, and speaks about various tax matters, including retirement planning, executive compensation, legislative changes, and overall best practices. Tim originally joined Baird in 1999, serving in a variety of planning-oriented roles, most recently as director of advanced planning. He left Baird in 2019 to join the Advisor Education team at Pimco, then returned to Baird in 2021. Prior to 1999, Tim worked in Arthur Andersen's Private Client Services group. He earned his bachelor's degree in accounting from the University of Illinois. He is a Certified Public Accountant/Personal Financial Specialist, a Certified Financial Planner professional, and a Certified Private Wealth Advisor professional.BackgroundBioStudent Loan Forgiveness and Inflation Reduction ActAmerican Rescue Plan“5 Questions About Student Loan Forgiveness,” by Lia Mitchell and Karen Wallace, Morningstar.com, Aug. 29, 2022.“What Student Loan Forgiveness Means for Your Finances,” by Amy C. Arnott, Morningstar.com, Sept. 2, 2022.“Fact Sheet: The Inflation and Reduction Act Supports Workers and Families,” whitehouse.gov, Aug. 19, 2022.“IRS Tax Return Audit Rates Plummet,” by Ashlea Ebeling, forbes.com, May 18, 2022.S CorporationsTax-Loss Selling in a Weak MarketWhat Is Tax Selling?“It’s Time for Tax-Loss Selling,” by Christine Benz, Morningstar.com, June 3, 2022.“Michael Kitces: Does Portfolio Customization Pay Off?” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Aug. 23, 2022.IRA Conversions“IRAs: To Convert or Not To Convert?” bairdwealth.com, August 2022.“Surprising Upsides in a Down Market,” bairdwealth.com, June 22, 2022.“Are IRA Conversions a Good Idea During Volatility?” Interview with Christine Benz and Tim Steffen, Morningstar.com, May 12, 2020. “Is the Backdoor Roth Still Legit?” by Christine Benz, Morningstar.com, Jan. 21, 2022. “Don’t Let Pro Rata Rules Trip Up Your Retirement Plan,” by Christine Benz, Morningstar.com, Feb. 27, 2018. Inherited IRAs“The Secure Act, RMDs, and Beneficiaries: Another Wrinkle,” by Natalie Choate, Morningstar.com, Dec. 8, 2021.“Why You Should Review Your Estate Plan This Year,” Interview with Christine Benz and Ed Slott, Morningstar.com, March 23, 2022. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


