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Jan 20, 2026 • 25min

Bruce Shapiro's America: what's next after Trump's year of chaos?

One year since US President Donald Trump's inauguration and the global order has been completely shifted, while the United States is now a country where people live in constant fear of ICE raids and deportation. Bruce Shapiro looks back at Trump's achievements in year one and how the world is responding to his plans for a "Board of Peace" - with a membership cost of $US 1 billion. Guest: Bruce Shapiro, contributing editor with The Nation magazine and Director of the Global Center for Journalism and Trauma. Producer: Catherine Zengerer
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Jan 19, 2026 • 33min

Do the hate speech laws go too far?

As the Albanese government drops key provisions from its hate speech legislation, Late Night Live takes a deep dive into what's left of the laws, and why even those who support tighter regulation think there are major problems with how to define hate, the level of Ministerial powers and the rushed attempt to get the laws through. Guests:Greg Barns SC, barrister at Higgins Chambers, human rights law specialist, director of the Information Rights ProjectProfessor Katharine Gelber, Professor of Politics and Public Policy and leading hate speech expert at the University of QueenslandProducers: Catherine Zengerer, David Marr
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Jan 19, 2026 • 17min

Bernard Keane's Canberra: can Albanese get hate speech laws through parliament?

Crikey's political editor traces the path to the hate speech legislation being debated in Parliament this week, and looks at why One Nation is outpolling the Coalition for the first time.   Guest: Bernard Keane, political editor, CrikeyProducers: Catherine Zengerer, David Marr
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Jan 15, 2026 • 55min

LNL Summer: Tim Minchin on music, fatherhoood, the Internet... and nipples

Tim Minchin, the Australian comedian and musician known for his theatrical work, opens up about turning 50 and running his first marathon. He shares the joys of fitness, the creative process behind his new album, Time Machine, and revisiting his earlier songs. Minhcin discusses the impact of quitting social media on his mental health, his dark humor, and the consequences of his political satire, including his song about Pell. He reflects on family dynamics, the essence of songwriting, and the balance between authenticity and performance in his life.
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Jan 14, 2026 • 26min

LNL Summer: The murderous rampage of Joe and Jimmy Governor in 1900 New South Wales

In the winter of 1900, Wiradjuri man Jimmy Governor and his brother Joe murdered nine people across New South Wales, in a rampage that caused panic in the colony on the cusp of nationhood. Apparently triggered by a racist incident, they killed men, women and children, evading a vast manhunt for months until they were finally captured. The story of the Governor brothers later inspired the popular book and later film The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith. Professor Katherine Biber re-animates this true crime story, using extensive archival research as well as conversations with Governor descendants. Guest: Professor Katherine Biber, author of The Last Outlaws: The Crimes of Jimmy & Joe Governor and the Birth of Modern Australia, Simon & SchusterOriginally broadcast on 26 June, 2025
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Jan 14, 2026 • 25min

LNL Summer: Cooperating over space resources

Some of the same countries that are in conflict right now are sitting in United Nations meetings together to discuss the future of outer space. Steven Freeland is charged with helping these nations find a common sense of purpose.Guest: Steven Freeland, Australian international lawyer, Emeritus Professor, Western Sydney University, and Professorial Fellow, Bond UniversityProducer: Ann ArnoldOriginally broadcast on 26 June, 2025
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Jan 13, 2026 • 25min

LNL Summer: Zane Grey's shark-hunting adventures in 1930s Australia

Zane Grey was an American western writer, celebrity and big game-fisherman. In so many ways, his life was larger than most. But it was in Australia, in the 1930s, that he sought to make his life even larger — pursuing big game fishing, a secret love affair, and what he hoped would be a movie that would rescue his precarious financial situation. Guest: Vicki Hastrich, author of The last days of Zane Grey: the untold story of a Hollywood legend in Australia and his hunt for the great white shark (Allen & Unwin)Producer: Ann ArnoldOriginally broadcast on 30 July, 2025
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Jan 13, 2026 • 26min

LNL Summer: Why Pompeii keeps revealing new secrets

The largest excavation in a lifetime is underway at the famous archaeological site of Pompeii — the Roman city buried in ash when Mount Vesuvius erupted in 79AD. Remarkable new discoveries continue to be unearthed. Guest: Gabriel Zuchtriegel, director of Pompeii Archaeological Park, author of The Buried City: Unearthing the Real PompeiiProducer: Jack SchmidtOriginally broadcast on 30 July, 2025
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Jan 12, 2026 • 55min

LNL Summer: John Menadue critiques Australia's media and our relationship with the United States

John Menadue has been at the heart of Australian public life for over fifty years, working for the Whitlam, Fraser and Hawke governments. He oversaw the effective end to Australia's White Australia Policy, was CEO of Qantas and set up the Centre for Policy Development. In the media he ran The Australian for Rupert Murdoch, launched the online weekly New Matilda and founded the influential public policy platform, Pearls and Irritations. Now aged ninety, John reflects on Australia's media, in particular its coverage of the war in Gaza, our attitudes to race relations, AUKUS, our relationship with the United States and how Australia is navigating its place in the world during a global power shift. Guest: John Menadue, Founder and Editor in Chief of Pearls and Irritations Producer: Catherine Zengerer*This show originally aired on 20 August 2025
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Jan 8, 2026 • 55min

LNL Summer: Philippe Sands on war crimes and impunity - from Pinochet to now

In 1998, the former Chilean head of state Augusto Pinochet was arrested on charges of crimes against humanity and genocide. Philippe Sands was called to advise Pinochet on his claim to immunity, but would instead represent a human rights organisation against him.Guest: Philippe Sands, author of 38 Londres Street: On Impunity, Pinochet in England and a Nazi in PatagoniaOriginally broadcast on 17 April, 2025

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