Making Chips Podcast for Manufacturing Leaders

Join Joey Jones of Aerotech Machining, Jamie from Midway Swiss, Mike Bauer of Marathon Precision, and Allison Giddens from Wintech as they share their secrets to success live from the NASCAR Hall of Fame. Joey reveals how pallet automation revolutionized their operations. Jamie discusses running multiple machines with minimal labor through robotics. Mike explains his 'Spider Web Strategy' of buying machines to attract customers. Allison champions employee-focused HR practices, showing how community engagement and culture transformation lead to excellence. Each guest brings invaluable insights and humor!

In this conversation, Mark Kennedy, Senior Director of Exhibitions at AMT, delves into the intricate planning behind the IMTS, the world's largest manufacturing trade show. He highlights the importance of the IMTS Exhibitor Workshop, which equips exhibitors with essential strategies from marketing to logistics. Mark likens IMTS to a Super Bowl for manufacturers, emphasizing the significance of effective booth designs. His insights on continuous improvement, interactive booth ideas, and future trends in AI make for an engaging discussion on maximizing trade show success.

We're coming to you once again from the Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Businesses Summit in Washington, D.C.—the largest gathering of small business owners in U.S. history. This time, we're joined by two inspiring leaders from the Metalworking Nation who prove that the heart of American manufacturing beats strongest in small towns and family-run shops. Our guests, Jenny Steffensmeier, owner of Steffensmeier Welding & Manufacturing in Pilot Grove, Iowa, and Paul Bothe, third-generation owner of a CNC job shop in Kenosha, Wisconsin, share how the Goldman Sachs 10KSB program transformed not only their businesses, but their lives. From resilience in the face of loss to the legacy of family ownership and the power of advocacy, their stories show what it means to make small big. Together, we talk about how to lead through transition, the role of creativity in machining, and why the best shops are built by "high-quality people doing high-quality work." Whether you're a shop owner, an aspiring entrepreneur, or a believer in the power of community, this episode will remind you why manufacturing matters—and how small businesses create a big impact. Segments (0:00) Recording live from the Goldman Sachs 10KSB Summit (2:45) Introducing guests Jenny Steffensmeier and Paul Bothe (5:50) Invest in your business by investing in ProShop ERP (7:23) How Jenny got involved with the Goldman Sachs 10KSB program (8:22) How Paul found his way from music to manufacturing (13:20) Jenny's story of taking over the business after her husband's passing (17:12) The power of community and connection in the 10KSB program (18:39) Leadership lessons from raising five kids and leading a team (20:24) Why you should consider Phoenix Heat Treating for Outside Processing (21:33) Favorite lessons from the 10,000 Small Businesses modules (25:00) Jenny's realization at 10KSB: "I'm not alone." (27:58) Why vulnerability builds better leaders (28:54) Family legacy: The German "Mittelstand" mindset and stewardship over ownership (30:42) How family values and long-term customer relationships build trust (32:21) Jenny on her children's involvement and carrying forward their father's legacy (35:22) Lessons in storytelling—Tailoring your message for customers, students, and policymakers (38:52) "High-quality people doing high-quality work"—what culture really means (40:54) Grow your top and bottom-line with CliftonLarsonAllen (CLA) (41:29) Thinking bigger: making small businesses big through policy and voice (40:30) Final reflections and memorable takeaways Resources mentioned on this episode Invest in your business by investing in ProShop ERP Use Phoenix Heat Treating for Outside Processing Grow your top and bottom-line with CliftonLarsonAllen (CLA) Connect with Jenny on LinkedIn Connect with Paul on LinkedIn Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

We're coming to you live from Washington, D.C., at the Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Businesses Summit—the largest gathering of small business owners in U.S. history. With more than 2,700 entrepreneurs in one place, the energy is electric, and the conversations are powerful. Among them is our guest, Brandon Dahms, owner of Innovative Manufacturing & Engineering (IME) in Des Moines, Iowa. Brandon's story captures what this summit is all about—growth, resilience, and transformation. After starting his career with plans to work in sports marketing, he took an unexpected turn into manufacturing and never looked back. Today, his 10,000-square-foot, lights-out machining operation runs nearly 24/7, serving as proof that automation, strategy, and strong leadership can turn even the smallest shop into a powerhouse. In this episode, we talk with Brandon about how the Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Businesses program helped him refine his growth strategy, strengthen his company culture, and position IME for long-term success. We dive into what it's like to go through a program that feels like an "MBA for real-world business owners" and how it shaped his ability to pivot from a traditional job shop to a high-volume, automated manufacturer. We also explore the advocacy side of the program—how small business owners like Brandon are meeting directly with congressional leaders to influence policy on issues that affect manufacturers every day: workforce development, healthcare costs, and economic uncertainty. From his experience in the classroom to his conversations on Capitol Hill, Brandon shows how one voice can help represent the entire metalworking nation. If you've ever wondered how programs like this can truly impact your business—and why stepping outside your bubble might be the key to future growth—this conversation is one you don't want to miss. Segments (0:39) Grow your top and bottom line with CliftonLarsonAllen (CLA) (1:15) Recording at the Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Businesses Summit (2:48) Brandon Dahms' origin story in metalworking (6:07) Why "Innovative Manufacturing & Engineering" stuck (and why it's a long email address) (7:17) Why apply for the Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Businesses program? (11:13) Why the investment of time is invaluable—Brandon's personal ROI (12:40) Manufacturing's place in the conversation: explaining CNC to non-manufacturers (13:30) The Voices advocacy program: How advocacy efforts translate into real policy conversations (16:05) Navigating uncertainty: Tariffs, government shutdowns, and planning for growth (18:16) SMW Autoblok: automation and workholding innovation (19:28) Applying 10KSB lessons to IME—pivoting, culture, and core values (21:08) Pivoting from job shop to high-volume manufacturing and reshoring work (22:51) Presenting the capstone project (a real-world growth plan) (24:34) How networking led to new high-volume customers (26:53) Balancing capacity, growth, and selectivity in customer relationships (28:21) Hiring for core values first, technical skill second (and personality tests that help) (31:20) Aligning personal goals with company growth (33:07) How to apply for the 10,000 Small Businesses program and what to expect (34:45) How MakingChips' "Machine Shop MBA" series aligns with the same mission (36:44) Why the best ideas often come from outside your industry (38:00) Hire MFG Leaders—find manufacturing talent that fits Resources mentioned on this episode Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Businesses Summit Connect with Brandon Dahms on LinkedIn Grow your top and bottom line with CliftonLarsonAllen (CLA) SMW Autoblok: automation and workholding innovation Hire MFG Leaders—find manufacturing talent that fits Apply for Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Businesses Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

In this insightful discussion, lean practitioners Noah Goellner, President of AME and Hennig, and Nick DeGeorgia, Manufacturing Engineer at P1 Industries, share their journeys and practical lean implementations. They explore the impact of lean thinking beyond the shop floor, emphasizing culture, waste elimination, and value flow. Nick highlights effective strategies like the two-bin Kanban system and fostering a trusting environment for continuous improvement. The conversation serves as a valuable guide for anyone looking to integrate lean principles across various business functions.

Charlie Hushek, a third-generation owner of Phoenix Heat Treating and new machine shop owner, shares invaluable insights on managing outside processes in manufacturing. He highlights the risks involved when parts leave your shop, emphasizing the importance of transparency and strong vendor relationships. Charlie discusses common pitfalls, the need for explicit communication about specifications, and how to treat outside processors as extensions of your operation. He provides practical strategies for risk reduction, effective documentation, and maintaining quality throughout the supply chain.

Finance doesn't have to be a mystery—it can be your greatest advantage. In this episode of the Machine Shop MBA series, we sit down with Jon Hughes, Erik Skie, and Mike Estes from CliftonLarsonAllen (CLA) to unpack the financial principles that separate high-performing shops from those that just get by. Together, they dig into how manufacturers can transform their accounting systems from mere compliance tools into strategic assets that fuel growth. From understanding capacity and pricing to mastering forecasting and job costing, this conversation bridges the gap between the shop floor and the balance sheet. CLA's experts explain why simplicity often beats complexity, how to avoid "bad business" when chasing volume, and why aligning cost structure with capacity utilization is the secret to consistent profitability. They also explore how automation and advanced equipment investments change the financial equation, why separating costing from pricing is essential, and how the best-run shops use forecasting not just to plan—but to learn. Whether you're running a $3M job shop or a $30M operation, this episode gives you the tools to make smarter financial decisions and build long-term resilience. Segments (1:03) Recapping Nick's trip to EMO in Germany (1:52) Meet the guests: Jon Hughes, Erik Skie, and Mike Estes from CLA (4:38) Grow your top and bottom-line with CLA (7:06) Keep it simple: Capacity vs. demand (the key to unlocking consistent profitability) (9:19) Why labor is effectively a fixed cost in modern manufacturing (12:21) When increasing capacity is a smart risk and when it's not (15:08) Activity-based costing and why not all machines should share the same rate (16:38) Why we love Phoenix Heat Treating for outside processing (17:47) How to price automation and capture its true value (20:30) Separating cost from price & matching pricing strategy to niche and capacity (25:06) The danger of underutilized automation and inflated rates (27:09) How customer communication improves quoting accuracy and margins (28:38) The "death spiral" of bad quoting assumptions (30:57) Understanding your cost structure vs. chasing perfect accuracy (32:46) Material-heavy jobs, overhead allocation, and avoiding double-dipping (35:25) Demystifying EDM technology with Methods Machine Tools Bill Burba (49:17) Forecasting and budgeting: why they matter beyond the numbers (52:35) Linking your business model to your P&L for smarter decision-making (54:23) How to use forecasting to test your assumptions (56:05) Killing unprofitable jobs ("deselecting customers") and improving mix (1:01:10) Meet us at Top Shops 2025 in Charlotte, NC Resources mentioned on this episode Grow your top and bottom-line with CLA Why we love Phoenix Heat Treating for outside processing Get more information about EDM technology from Methods Machine Tools Business Model Canvas Meet us at Top Shops 2025 in Charlotte, NC Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

What happens when two brothers with a racing background decide to start a machine shop—with zero machining experience? You get Olson Custom Designs, a company that's gone from two Haas machines in 2014 to nearly 90 employees today—serving medical, defense, and aerospace industries out of a world-class facility in Indianapolis. In this episode, we sit down with Mitch and Brian Olson to unpack the remarkable story behind their explosive growth. They share how their competitive drive from sprint car racing carried over to machining, the lessons learned from starting with no industry experience, and the systems that have fueled their scale—from culture to ProShop ERP. The brothers talk openly about the struggles of starting from scratch, the importance of integrity and teamwork, and how they've built a facility and a culture that attracts top young talent. They also dig into how automation, palletization, and continuous improvement have allowed them to grow at breakneck speed without losing control of quality—or their vision for what manufacturing should look like. This episode is packed with lessons on grit, growth, and leadership for anyone looking to take their shop from humble beginnings to high performance. Segments (0:58) The inspiring origin story of Olson Custom Designs (6:30) Grow your top and bottom line with CliftonLarsonAllen (7:08) Why integrity and belief in the customer's mission drive everything they do (10:13) Changing the perception of manufacturing through aesthetics and culture (12:37) Attracting young, passionate machinists with technology and image (13:54) The evolution of automation and palletization in a high-mix environment (16:21) Running 24/7 with volunteers and flexible shifts (18:02) Investing in ProShop ERP is an investment in your business (19:38) Creating a culture of accountability and clarity (21:38) The core values that guide OCD—integrity, fairness, and transparency (24:20) Systems that scale: how ProShop ERP became their backbone (30:45) Giving every employee a voice in continuous improvement (33:11) Section 232 Tariffs: What manufacturers need to know and how to comment (40:53) Brothers in business: why partnership made their success possible (43:10) The importance of complementary strengths and mutual respect (45:00) Sales and marketing as a growth engine—never taking your foot off the gas (49:09) Final takeaways: don't give up, ask for help, and delegate (52:09) Looking to hire? Check out Hire MFG Leaders Resources mentioned on this episode Olson Custom Designs Connect with Mitch and Brian Grow your top and bottom line with CliftonLarsonAllen Investing in ProShop ERP is an investment in your business Looking to hire? Check out Hire MFG Leaders Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

Recruiting and retaining great people is one of the biggest challenges in manufacturing today—but what if the solution isn't just about wages or benefits, but about building a culture where people thrive? In this episode of the Machine Shop MBA series, we are joined by guest co-host Jon Franko and special guest Mike Tamasi, CEO of AccuRounds, a former Top Shops award winner for Human Resources. Mike shares how AccuRounds has become an employer of choice by focusing on community engagement, core values, and creating opportunity for every team member. From partnering with vocational schools and launching unique workforce development programs to embracing servant leadership and lifelong learning, Mike reveals why culture is not a buzzword—it's a competitive advantage. You'll hear how AccuRounds is tackling the workforce shortage by looking beyond traditional talent pools, empowering young people through co-ops and internships, and even launching initiatives like the Uniquely Abled Academy to provide CNC training for adults on the autism spectrum. The results? A highly engaged team, industry recognition, and stories of employees buying homes, building families, and creating meaningful careers. If you're a shop leader struggling with workforce challenges—or simply looking for fresh ideas on how to build a resilient and loyal team—this episode is packed with lessons you can implement immediately. Segments (1:00) Stay vigilant—don't fall for this latest phone scam (3:47) Mike's shares the background of AccuRounds and their Top Shops Award (5:18) Community involvement: Redefining manufacturing as "safe, smart, sustainable, and sexy" (8:06) Head to the EBITDA Growth Systems Double Your Value Event (9:13) The growing demand for trade schools vs. college enrollment (10:02) Co-ops, internships, and the importance of lifelong learning opportunities (14:22) Creative talent pipelines: Programs for autistic adults, refugees, and formerly incarcerated workers (16:33) Core values in action: Gratitude, Excellence, Team First, Initiative, Trust (GET IT) (20:06) Retention strategies: safety, flexibility, lean practices, and environment (22:41) Layering in corporate social responsibility practices (24:26) Apprenticeship and leadership training for employees at every level (26:29) Why you should come see us at AMT's MTForecast (27:45) Invest in technology and opportunities to keep people engaged and growing (32:45) Stories of employee success: buying homes, raising families, and long-term loyalty (35:09) Recognition and international visitors: building a reputation through culture (38:43) The importance of servant leadership—culture cannot be outsourced to HR (40:12) Lessons in flexibility: "freedom with fences" (43:16) Jason Ray: Leveraging technology as a recruiting and retention tool (51:29) Scheduling and the shift away from second shift (54:38) Learn more about the Manufacturing Employer podcast (57:29) RASRAM = Reasons to check out the SMW Autoblok catalog Resources mentioned on this episode Connect with Mike Tamasi AccuRounds Machine Shop Mastery Episode #42 See Paul at the EBITDA Growth Systems Double Your Value Event (Get 20% off registration with code DYV25MC) The Uniquely Abled Project Hidden Talent by David DeLong US Navy Talent Pipeline Program Why you should come see us at AMT's MTForecast Small Giants Career Spring Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

Leadership is more than a buzzword—it's the backbone of every successful machine shop. In this episode of MakingChips—Machine Shop MBA, hosts Paul Van Metre and Jen Dubose sit down with Kyra Tillman, owner of BTM Industries, to explore what real leadership looks like on the shop floor and in the front office. Kyra inherited a decades-old family shop steeped in tradition and transformed it into a forward-looking, systems-driven operation without losing its close-knit culture. Drawing on her experience in construction and her perspective as a non-machinist leader, she shares how she built trust, introduced new systems, and developed her people—all while respecting the expertise already on her team. This conversation digs into the mechanics of leadership in a small manufacturing business: why humility and transparency matter, how to foster a culture of continuous improvement, and the difference between managing work and leading people. Kyra also outlines her approach to apprenticeship programs, leadership training, and grants, showing that even small shops can invest in their workforce and future. Whether you're an established owner or just starting your journey, Kyra's lessons on change management, talent development, and leading by example will help you strengthen your shop from the inside out. Segments (1:07) Introducing our manager and today's co-host, Jen Dubose (5:00) Kyra's background: from construction to leading BTM Industries (8:19) Leadership as support and respect for expertise (10:02) Modernizing operations: moving beyond index cards (11:08) Why you need to join us at MTForecast (13:12) Building credibility and trust as a non-machinist leader (14:48) Monthly meetings and opening communication channels (17:14) Vision and hiring for skill and attitude (20:06) How do you build trust with your team? (24:03) Creating a culture of continuous improvement and curiosity (26:37) Developing talent from within and apprenticeship programs (28:17) Join us at Top Shops 2025 in Charlotte, NC (29:41) Investing in people: leadership training, grants, and high school interns (32:42) External resources: mentorships, peer groups, and local networks (35:42) Switching to ProShop ERP and navigating change management (39:21) Leading by example and diving in alongside the team (40:58) Personal leadership habits: mindfulness, learning, and consistency (41:42) Final advice from Kyra for shop owners and leaders (45:11) Grow your top and bottom-line with CliftonLarsonAllen (CLA) Resources mentioned on this episode Why you need to join us at MTForecast Get a preview of MTForecast on Buy the Numbers Grow your top and bottom-line with CliftonLarsonAllen (CLA) Join us at Top Shops 2025 in Charlotte, NC: Get 20% off your registration with code MAK20 IMEC MCEDC Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube