

Lead-Lag Live
Michael A. Gayed, CFA
Lead-Lag Live is your front-row seat to unscripted, real-time conversations with the sharpest minds in finance, economics, and investing.Hosted by Michael A. Gayed, CFA — publisher of The Lead-Lag Report and a widely followed voice on macro strategy — each episode features candid discussions with top portfolio managers, economists, ETF strategists, best-selling authors, and market practitioners. No scripts. No teleprompters. Just raw insight from people who move markets.Every week, we go deep on the themes that matter most: macro trends, interest rates and Fed policy, equity and bond markets, ETF strategies, geopolitical risk, asset allocation, commodities, currencies, and the interplay between risk-on and risk-off positioning.Whether you manage billions or are just getting started, Lead-Lag Live delivers actionable analysis and frameworks you can use — not surface-level market commentary.Originally broadcast live on X Spaces, every conversation is available here as a full-length podcast so you never miss a discussion.Subscribe now and follow @leadlagmedia on X for upcoming live events.
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Oct 15, 2025 • 17min
Beyond Buy and Hold: Si Katara on Zero-Day Options, Income Innovation & the Future of ETFs
In this episode of Lead-Lag Live, I sit down with Si Katara, Founder and CEO of Tap Alpha, to explore how zero-day options are reshaping income investing for everyday investors.From engineering background to ETF innovation, Katara shares how Tap Alpha’s TSPY ETF delivers daily option overlays on the S&P 500 — capturing upside while generating consistent, tax-efficient income in any market environment.In this episode:– Why traditional income products no longer work for investors today– How zero-day options can mitigate risk and boost returns– The math behind daily vs. monthly covered call strategies– Why ETFs solve tax inefficiencies in options-based income– How Tap Alpha is bridging Wall Street strategies for Main Street investorsLead-Lag Live brings you inside conversations with the financial thinkers who shape markets. Subscribe for interviews that go deeper than the noise.#LeadLagLive #TapAlpha #ETFs #OptionsInvesting #ZeroDTE #MarketsSupport the show

Oct 14, 2025 • 22min
Fragile Foundations: Ross Atefi on AI Euphoria, Market Concentration & the $500K Tax Trap
In this episode of Lead-Lag Live, I sit down with Ross Atefi, Founder and Wealth Advisor at Yatra Wealth Design, to break down why he believes the market is more fragile than headlines suggest.From AI mania to the quiet collapse in housing and jobs data, Ross explains how extreme concentration and stretched valuations have set up an environment that echoes the late ’90s bubble — and what investors need to watch next.In this episode:– Why the S&P 500’s “diversification” is a dangerous illusion– How AI spending is draining the cash that used to reward shareholders– The warning signals in housing and employment data– Why money supply matters more than Fed rhetoric when it comes to inflation– The $500K–$600K tax trap created by the “one big, beautiful bill” and how to avoid itLead-Lag Live brings you inside conversations with the financial thinkers who shape markets. Subscribe for interviews that go deeper than the noise.#LeadLagLive #Markets #Investing #AI #TaxPlanning #HousingMarket #JobsDataSupport the show

Oct 14, 2025 • 22min
Beyond the Hype: Derek Yan on the AI Build-Out, Private Access, and Where the Real Opportunity Lies
In this episode of Lead-Lag Live, I sit down with Derek Yan, CFA and Senior Investment Strategist at KraneShares, to cut through the noise surrounding the AI “bubble” narrative and unpack where the true opportunity still lies.From infrastructure shortages and the rise of reasoning models to the challenge of accessing private AI leaders, Derek shares why the current cycle is still in its infancy and how investors can capture the next phase of growth.In this episode:– Why AI demand is outpacing computing capacity worldwide– How reasoning models are reshaping the AI investment landscape– Why the Magnificent 7 alone won’t capture the AI revolution– The importance of balancing infrastructure vs application exposure– How A-GIX connects investors to both public and private AI leadersLead-Lag Live brings you inside conversations with the financial thinkers who shape markets. Subscribe for interviews that go deeper than the noise.#LeadLagLive #KraneShares #AI #Markets #TechStocks #AGIXSupport the show

Oct 13, 2025 • 28min
California at a Crossroads: Ethan Penner on Gavin Newsom, Trump, Reform, and Rebuilding the State
In this episode of Lead-Lag Live, I sit down with Ethan Penner — independent candidate for California governor and a trailblazer in U.S. commercial real-estate finance — to break down what he calls the “collapse of competent governance” in California.From a radical tax overhaul to fixing housing and energy costs, Penner outlines how he’d reverse decades of political decay — and why he believes Gavin Newsom’s policies have left the state weaker, poorer, and more divided.In this episode:– Why Penner says there’s “absolutely nothing” worth continuing from Newsom’s tenure– How a single-tax system could revitalize California’s economy– The real drivers of the housing and affordability crisis– How bureaucratic red tape adds $100K+ to every new apartment build– Why leadership grounded in empathy and business discipline matters now more than everLead-Lag Live brings you inside conversations with the financial thinkers who shape markets. Subscribe for interviews that go deeper than the noise. Sign up to The Lead-Lag Report on Substack and get 30% off the annual subscription today by visiting http://theleadlag.report/leadlaglive. Support the show

Oct 8, 2025 • 52min
AI Today: From Chatbots to Humanoid Robots – Investing in the Full Stack
Imagine the internet’s 20-year curve compressed into a few years: costs plummet, capabilities skyrocket, and adoption leaps from novelty to necessity. That’s where AI stands today. In this episode, we go deep into the evolution of reasoning models—how chatbots are transforming into agents that plan, code, and act across real workflows. Then, we explore the next frontier: physical AI, humanoid robots designed to operate in human spaces, where the “final mile” of automation requires hands, balance, and judgment.We break down the full AI stack so you can invest with intent:Digital AI: From semiconductors and data centers to secure data infrastructure, code generation, and multimodal systems connecting perception to action.Physical AI: Humanoid ecosystems, including integrators, brains, and bodies. We explain why actuators, harmonic drives, tactile sensors, and manufacturing clusters are today’s critical picks-and-shovels plays.Investment insights: U.S. leadership in intelligence and commercialization vs. Asia’s manufacturing depth, hype vs. investable opportunities, and a practical portfolio approach balancing concentrated and globally distributed AI exposure. #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #HumanoidRobots #MachineLearning #AgenticAI Sign up to The Lead-Lag Report on Substack and get 30% off the annual subscription today by visiting http://theleadlag.report/leadlaglive. Support the show

Oct 8, 2025 • 33min
Mastering Options Basics — Long vs. Short, Covered Calls, and Zero DTE Risks | Live Webinar
Join me as I sit down with Greg Jensen, Founder of OptionsAnimal, and Eric Hale, Founder of Trader Oasis, to break down the foundations of smart options trading. After our last deep dive into the collar strategy, we’re going back to basics to answer the biggest questions every trader faces.Greg and Eric explain when it’s appropriate to buy long options, why naked calls are among the riskiest trades you can make, and how to think through strategies like short puts vs. covered calls. They also reveal why zero DTE options are attracting retail traders, the hidden dangers behind them, and the adjustments that separate professional traders from gamblers.In this webinar:When to buy long calls or puts — and why conviction mattersWhy selling options often beats buying themNaked calls: unlimited risk and real-world horror storiesCovered calls vs. short puts — which strategy really makes senseThe truth about zero DTE options: opportunities vs. catastrophic risksLead-Lag Live Webinars give you exclusive access to deep-dive conversations with industry experts, portfolio managers, and strategists. Subscribe now to gain the insights you need to make smarter, more informed investment decisions.#OptionsTrading #ZeroDTE #CoveredCalls #LeadLagLive #OptionsAnimal Sign up to The Lead-Lag Report on Substack and get 30% off the annual subscription today by visiting http://theleadlag.report/leadlaglive. Support the show

Oct 7, 2025 • 16min
Beyond 60/40: Alex Shahidi on Diversification, Inflation, and Risk Parity Investing
In this episode of Lead-Lag Live, I sit down with Alex Shahidi, Managing Partner and Co-Chief Investment Officer at Evoke Advisors, to explore why traditional portfolio construction is failing investors.From lost decades in the S&P 500 to the dangers of overconcentration, Alex lays out why diversification is more than a buzzword—and how risk parity creates a framework that can withstand both growth and inflation shocks.In this episode:– Why owning the S&P 500 alone exposes investors to hidden– The lessons from the 1970s inflation era and what they mean– How risk parity differs from traditional 60/40– The biggest misconceptions investors have about risk– Practical first steps investors can take to diversifyLead-Lag Live brings you inside conversations with the financial thinkers who shape markets. Subscribe for interviews that go deeper than the noise.#LeadLagLive #Diversification #RiskParity #Investing #Inflation #StockMarketSupport the show

Oct 7, 2025 • 48min
Why Gold’s Quiet All‑Time High Matters (and How BAR Lowers the Cost of Owning It)
A record high without the roar—gold has climbed to new territory while the crowd looks elsewhere. We sit down with GraniteShares founder and CEO Will Rind to unpack why this is the most interesting precious metals cycle in years: a quiet surge powered by falling real yields, relentless debt growth, and a decade‑long shift by central banks toward gold as the de facto alternative to the dollar. Will brings rare perspective from building gold ETFs in the UK, stewarding GLD, and launching BAR, a physically backed gold ETF designed to cut costs and increase transparency.We dig into the mechanics that matter to serious allocators: why BAR’s 0.17% expense ratio compounds an edge over time, how allocated bars and third‑party audits reduce custody risk, and where gold fits on the efficient frontier as a true diversifier with near‑zero equity correlation. Along the way, we pressure‑test common narratives. Bitcoin gets the headlines, yet gold and BTC have moved in step from key points while official reserves tell a different story. We explore how to read the gold price as a mirror of fiat dilution, not just momentum, and why this rally can coexist with rising policy rates when the bigger forces—deficits and credibility—dominate.The conversation widens to the rest of the complex. Platinum’s breakout, a persistent supply deficit, and a growing role in hydrogen technologies add torque to a metals allocation that often plays catch‑up as gold leads. For investors hunting income without abandoning diversification, we walk through GraniteShares’ options‑based Yield Boost ETFs—weekly distributions generated by defined‑risk put spreads rather than uncovered calls—to complement core holdings like BAR or a platinum sleeve. If your portfolio still leans entirely on stocks and bonds, this is your cue to reconsider what real ballast looks like when passive flows and public debt keep climbing.Enjoy the episode, share it with a colleague who still thinks gold is only for crises, and subscribe for more candid, research‑driven market conversations. If it helped you think differently about allocation, leave a quick review—it makes a big difference.#LeadLagLive #Gold #Bitcoin #Investing #fiat #StockMarket Sign up to The Lead-Lag Report on Substack and get 30% off the annual subscription today by visiting http://theleadlag.report/leadlaglive. Support the show

Oct 7, 2025 • 45min
Building All-Weather Income with Pass-Throughs and HIPS
Rate cuts change the math on income, but your cash flow doesn’t have to shrink. We invited Will Rind of GraniteShares to unpack a practical way to keep payouts steady as short-term yields slide: a diversified basket of pass-through securities inside the HIPS ETF that aims for an all-weather stream of monthly income. We dig into how REITs, MLPs, BDCs, and fixed income–oriented closed-end funds each respond to different growth and inflation regimes, and why blending them can smooth the ride when markets lurch.We walk through the index rules that power HIPS—screening for the highest yields and the lowest volatility within each sector, then equal-weighting the results—and why the pass-through structure matters. Because these entities distribute most of their income and avoid corporate tax, more of the cash makes it to investors, and a return of capital component can improve after-tax outcomes. We also get candid about trade-offs: NAV will move with markets, but the fund has paid the same fixed monthly amount for more than a decade, including through the 2020 shock when many dividend strategies cut or suspended payouts.From portfolio fit to policy risk, we tackle the real questions advisors and investors ask. Should HIPS be core or a satellite? How does it complement the Agg or government bonds without doubling down on duration or credit? What do expense ratios mean when BDCs are involved, and how should you interpret acquired fund fees? We compare liquid, transparent alternative income to private credit’s lockups and opaque marks, then explore pairing HIPS with GraniteShares’ options-based Yield Boost strategies for those seeking weekly distributions and higher-octane cash flow—recognizing the higher volatility that comes with it.If you’re planning for consistent cash in a falling-rate world, this conversation offers a clear framework, a battle-tested track record, and practical ways to assemble an income sleeve that pays. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend who manages income portfolios, and leave a quick review to tell us what topic you want us to tackle next.#LeadLagLive #HIPS #AlternativeYield #Investing #Income #StockMarket Sign up to The Lead-Lag Report on Substack and get 30% off the annual subscription today by visiting http://theleadlag.report/leadlaglive. Support the show

Oct 1, 2025 • 20min
Boom or Bust: Kai Wu on AI CapEx, Concentration Risk, and the Next Phase of Tech
Kai Wu, Founder and CIO of Sparkline Capital, dives into the transformative world of AI-driven capital expenditure. He reveals how hyperscalers are shifting to asset-heavy models, potentially overlooking significant concentration risks. Wu draws parallels between the current AI boom and historic capital cycles like the dot-com and railroad eras. He highlights the link between rapid asset growth and market underperformance, urging investors to adopt dynamic positioning strategies as AI adoption evolves.


