Joy of Missing Out (JOMO)

Chloe Shih and Eric Wei
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Sep 10, 2024 β€’ 1h 16min

The reality of working with your friends

Nobody likes to be wrong. Feedback is always difficult whether it be on the giving or receiving side. This week’s episode is a heartfelt one as we share our experiences receiving feedback in our corporate jobs and now giving feedback as the bosses in our creative endeavors. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ Eric Wei (⁠ @trykarat β ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠(⁠ @chloeshih β ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv βˆ™ patreon β†’ https://www.patreon.com/jomopod π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 fake feedback 1:06 shark socks 2:19 A LOT has happened 3:27 we had a fire 6:00 patreon launched! 8:02 eric reflecting on being maidenless 13:08 how to be the TOP of the industry 16:28 not a lot of people can do this 18:53 what content really means 20:24 teamwork makes the dream work 22:18 a manager is useless without their team 26:50 eric made a mistake 29:30 chloe gave her friend a B- 32:12 the feedback Google gave Chloe 33:02 importance of ownership 37:23 building a work style + when your style clashes 40:52 rationale is valuable! 42:04 responsibility vs fault 44:18 chloe loves clubs, eric? not so much... 45:56 valuable feedback #1: perspective 48:56 valuable feedback #2: best practices for YOU 51:30 corporate buzzwords 52:30 chloe has ~conviction~ 53:27 we all have our weakness, like showering 54:43 eric got chills from chloe's feedback 58:54 chloe taught her friends taxes 1:02:08 giving brutally honest feedback for success 1:05:00 sharing feedback with your own feelings 1:07:07 trust when working with friends 1:08:37 chloe and eric’s good days 1:09:44 unsolicited feedback from strangers❌ 1:11:30 don’t do the s*** sandwich 1:12:30 eric still gets scared of feedback 1:15:20 What's something you’re trying to get better at? πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives
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Sep 3, 2024 β€’ 1h 25min

We Ranked Everyone in Tech

Today's episode is going to be a judgy one because we are ranking everyone and every situation you can encounter in the tech world. From the person who never has their camera on to the LinkedIn influencers we've seen our fair share of them. We are joined by Chloe's husbando, Kevin, to add the software engineer POV. In our rankings we are not holding back and giving our brutally honest thoughts. From jail to invited to pickleball to a jomie we got all the tiers covered. Get nice and cozy because this is gonna be a wild ride. P.S. the patreon is officially launchedπŸ₯³ β†’ https://www.patreon.com/jomopod 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ Eric Wei ( @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠( @chloeshih ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod/ βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 the Chloe, Kevin echochamber 0:44 patreon launched! 5:21 Chloe’s husbando with the swe pov 6:35 tier list explained 9:44 disclaimer: no vanilla wholesome today 11:12 never has their camera on 13:35 way too into boba 14:28 dyes their hair blue or purple 15:34 engineer who wants a farm 16:38 has massive imposter syndrome 18:35 works in mobile gaming 19:39 exec that won't get a real mic 22:16 Berkeley EECS grads 24:53 mental health leave post on LinkedIn 26:00 Koolaid drinkers 27:13 doesn't have a bedframe 29:03 omakase and niku guy 29:57 Canadians/Waterloo 31:17 probably working a 2nd job 32:14 still uses firefox 33:11 always snow boarding 34:04 engineers that think ur flirting with them 34:59 sends long message at 5 pm on a Friday 36:06 dual monitor, mech keyboard, ergo desk + chair set up 36:54 the type that posts on Blind 37:38 says they're poor but makes 6 figs 38:34 really, really into coffee 39:40 staff engineer who "has no filter" 41:10 gets into office at 7 am 42:05 VCs 43:04 lowkey nepo baby 43:35 white tesla drivers 44:42 PM turned startup founder 46:21 HR 47:27 diversity hire 48:48 LinkedIn influencers 49:32 startup CEO that keeps pivoting 50:18 extreme biohacker 51:53 new grads 52:25 Forbes 30U30 lister 54:27 "hi" with no follow up 55:33 slack s***poster 56:05 RPMs 57:00 interns 57:42 bootcamp engineers 58:27 only promotion projects 59:13 ladder climbers 59:58 brings their dog to the office 1:00:20 wanna go rock climbing 1:00:53 "tech jobs that make 6 figure" creators 1:02:18 hosts board game nights 1:02:50 weebs 1:03:38 sold 2 startups and now "consults" 1:04:34 only works at FAANG 1:04:42 doesn't work on a real desk or chair 1:05:59 swipes in for lunch and leaves 1:06:16 only wears free tech shirts 1:06:56 the aquihires 1:07:20 SF techies 1:09:08 LA techies 1:10:12 Seattle techies 1:10:20 NY techies 1:10:33 engineer with a really loud keyboard 1:11:21 has a photo of Elon on their desk 1:11:49 Tahoe trip planner 1:12:16 wears patagonia vests & chinos 1:12:25 guy who always complains about dating 1:14:02 crypto bros 1:14:18 looks like a recruiter, is a recruiter 1:14:58 DIML techtokers 1:15:58 MBA grad name dropper 1:16:02 PM/design GF + SE boyfriend 1:17:10 Dr. Fei-Fei Li 1:17:36 Daddy Zuck 1:18:20 Sheryl Sandberg 1:18:39 Daddy Jensen 1:19:30 Elon Musk 1:22:08 disclaimer: all for funsies 1:23:25 JOMO out πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives
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Aug 29, 2024 β€’ 1h 8min

I'm Single. Again.

Kira returns to share her insights on the rollercoaster journey of breakups and love. Dive into the candid discussions about personal breakup histories that highlight the good, bad, and ugly aspects of relationships. They ponder the complexities of commitment, explore the impact of societal norms on single life, and share vulnerable moments while reflecting on family dynamics. Meanwhile, Eric's single status adds a humorous twist to the conversation. Discover the emotional growth that comes from navigating love and loss!
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Aug 20, 2024 β€’ 1h 10min

We KICKED Him Out...

In this discussion, Eric Wei, co-founder of Karat Financial, and Chloe Shih, a tech product manager, delve into the art of social navigation. They share hilarious stories about cringe-worthy moments at events and the importance of kicking out unwanted guests while setting firm boundaries. Chloe reveals her awkward fumble at a networking dinner, and both guests highlight the complexities of maintaining healthy social circles. They explore how to handle friends’ unsavory acquaintances and emphasize the need for open communication to foster safer, more supportive communities.
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Aug 13, 2024 β€’ 1h 13min

Networking as an Introvert.

Networking can be a daunting challenge for introverts. The hosts share humorous stories of their awkward encounters at large events like VidCon. They discuss the importance of forming genuine connections rather than engaging in superficial interactions. Insights from personality assessments reveal how understanding oneself can ease social anxieties. Plus, they delve into navigating beauty standards and the complexities of building relationships. Get ready for tips on connecting authentically, even when feeling overwhelmed!
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Aug 6, 2024 β€’ 1h 24min

My Best Friend was a Narcissist.

Diving into the complexities of adult friendships, the hosts explore why real connections are harder to maintain as life gets busier. They share personal stories about navigating toxic relationships, including a cautionary tale about an abusive best friend. The struggle to form new bonds in middle age is examined, alongside humorous takes on awkward social dynamics. With reflections on the emotional rollercoaster of friendship, they emphasize the importance of empathy, boundaries, and recognizing the need for supportive relationships in tumultuous times.
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Jul 30, 2024 β€’ 1h 12min

I don't feel enough.

In this engaging discussion, Eric Wei, co-founder of a financial service for creators, and Chloe Shih, a tech product manager, explore the mental struggles of feeling inadequate despite visible success. They share personal stories of kindness, the exhausting pursuit of accomplishments, and the pressure of networking at college reunions. Reflecting on community involvement and the pressures of societal expectations, they encourage listeners to appreciate incremental progress and authenticity in their journeys.
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Jul 23, 2024 β€’ 1h 14min

YouTube isn't worth it.

Eric Wei, a co-founder of Karat Financial, and Chloe Shih, a tech product manager, discuss the trade-offs between being a full-time content creator and pursuing a tech career. They explore balancing family expectations, starting a company, creating quality content, and finding passion and purpose in their professional journeys.
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Jul 16, 2024 β€’ 59min

Torn between tech and content.

β€œShould I leave my 9-5 to do content?” We’ve all had that thought, and Chloe actually made it happen. But is content really as glamorous as it seems? Chloe and Eric dive into the good, the bad, and the ugly of some of today's most enticing career paths: tech, startups, and content. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠  @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠(  @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/chloeshih π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 sick and tired of it all 2:46 did eric get shadow banned? 4:06 learned helplessness 5:46 chloe spends HOW many hours a week on content? 9:09 chloe has the urge to go back to corporate 1048 is content less fun as a full time creator? 11:51 how to design your life 13:14 how being 30 affects your body 15:35 the three paths - content is a side hoe 17:56 the most interesting people are not online 20:13 PM is NOT a chill job 24:03 what’s so hard about deciding life paths 27:30 do CEOs have to be good at managing people 29:13 should creators have smaller teams? 33:00 is YouTube still worth it? 35:08 how to make the most out of your PM job 39:23 feeling unimpactful as a PM 40:47 I just wanna be salary man 42:32 creators don’t get to work on the business side 44:50 chloe’s crazy grind schedule 49:11 does chloe want to start her own company? 51:18 eric’s career advice for chloe 53:35 how eric deals with burnout 54:40 eric & chloe’s plans for the next few weeks πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #careeradvice
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Jul 10, 2024 β€’ 52min

Don’t date β€œsuccessful” people.

In Part 2 of our steamiest episode yet - what's it really like to date successful people? Do men like it when women are smarter than them? Should the man in a relationship pay more? Chloe and Eric are joined by a friend to discuss everything related to love and dating in your 30s. π™Žπ™‹π™„π˜Ύπ™€ 𝙇𝙀𝙑𝙀𝙇: 🌢️🌢️🌢️ 𝙏𝙃𝙀 π™…π™Šπ™ˆπ™Š π™ƒπ™Šπ™Žπ™π™Ž πŸŽ™οΈ π—˜π—Ώπ—Άπ—° π—ͺ𝗲𝗢 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗡𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗡𝗢𝗡 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito Disclaimer: This episode features an open and honest discussion about our diverse dating journeys. We understand that some viewpoints may differ from your own, and we fully respect that. Our aim is to create a space for a variety of perspectives rooted in real experiences. Please remember that the content of this podcast is not intended as advice. Instead, we hope it highlights the complexity of dating and love. π™Žπ™Šπ˜Ύπ™„π˜Όπ™‡π™Ž 🌸 βˆ™ instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod βˆ™ spotify β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify βˆ™ apple podcasts β†’ https://bit.ly/jomo-apple βˆ™ tiktok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod βˆ™ youtube β†’ www.youtube.com/@jomopod βˆ™ discord β†’ https://discord.gg/chloeshih π˜Ύπ™ƒπ˜Όπ™‹π™π™€π™π™Ž πŸ“š 0:00 welcome to pt 2! 0:48 what it’s like to date founders 3:02 are founders more likely to cheat? 4:22 the problems with men wanting validation 5:40 was dating in 30s different for eric 6:36 why dating in 30s gets harder for women 8:42 how eric β€œscreens” potential gfs 9:27 why eric doesn’t want kids 10:45 the most forward chloe has ever been 12:57 eric’s consulting rizz 13:43 do guys like when girls are smarter 15:49 how do you know he wants to be more than friends 17:36 definite dealbreakers 18:36 GREEN flags 22:11 being gaslit into open relationships 26:36 improve yourself to attract better people in your life 29:10 why open relationships don’t work long term 31:37 when are you ready to get married 33:06 how eric views marriage 34:55 should men pay for more 41:40 how much $$ do you need to live comfortably in LA 45:09 being a housewife 46:15 favorite romantic tropes πŸ“§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #dating #relationships #love

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