

Joy of Missing Out (JOMO)
Chloe Shih and Eric Wei
Spent our 20s working for other people and are now living our 30s betting on ourselves. This is the *joy* of missing out.
A podcast starring Chloe Shih and Eric Wei.
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tech product manager making educational videos to elevate your career and life!
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co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
A podcast starring Chloe Shih and Eric Wei.
ππ΅πΉπΌπ² π¦π΅πΆπ΅ - IG: @chloe.shih
tech product manager making educational videos to elevate your career and life!
ππΏπΆπ° πͺπ²πΆ - IG: @erictway
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
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Sep 10, 2024 β’ 1h 16min
The reality of working with your friends
Nobody likes to be wrong. Feedback is always difficult whether it be on the giving or receiving side. This weekβs episode is a heartfelt one as we share our experiences receiving feedback in our corporate jobs and now giving feedback as the bosses in our creative endeavors.
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Eric Wei (β @trykarat β ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
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tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.
Editor: Jayna Benito
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β instagram β https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod
β spotify β https://spoti.fi/466BRP3
β apple podcasts β https://bit.ly/jomo-apple
β tiktok β https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod
β discord β https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv
β patreon β https://www.patreon.com/jomopod
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0:00 fake feedback
1:06 shark socks
2:19 A LOT has happened
3:27 we had a fire
6:00 patreon launched!
8:02 eric reflecting on being maidenless
13:08 how to be the TOP of the industry
16:28 not a lot of people can do this
18:53 what content really means
20:24 teamwork makes the dream work
22:18 a manager is useless without their team
26:50 eric made a mistake
29:30 chloe gave her friend a B-
32:12 the feedback Google gave Chloe
33:02 importance of ownership
37:23 building a work style + when your style clashes
40:52 rationale is valuable!
42:04 responsibility vs fault
44:18 chloe loves clubs, eric? not so much...
45:56 valuable feedback #1: perspective
48:56 valuable feedback #2: best practices for YOU
51:30 corporate buzzwords
52:30 chloe has ~conviction~
53:27 we all have our weakness, like showering
54:43 eric got chills from chloe's feedback
58:54 chloe taught her friends taxes
1:02:08 giving brutally honest feedback for success
1:05:00 sharing feedback with your own feelings
1:07:07 trust when working with friends
1:08:37 chloe and ericβs good days
1:09:44 unsolicited feedback from strangersβ
1:11:30 donβt do the s*** sandwich
1:12:30 eric still gets scared of feedback
1:15:20 What's something youβre trying to get better at?
π§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com
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Sep 3, 2024 β’ 1h 25min
We Ranked Everyone in Tech
Today's episode is going to be a judgy one because we are ranking everyone and every situation you can encounter in the tech world. From the person who never has their camera on to the LinkedIn influencers we've seen our fair share of them. We are joined by Chloe's husbando, Kevin, to add the software engineer POV. In our rankings we are not holding back and giving our brutally honest thoughts. From jail to invited to pickleball to a jomie we got all the tiers covered. Get nice and cozy because this is gonna be a wild ride.
P.S. the patreon is officially launchedπ₯³ β https://www.patreon.com/jomopod
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Eric Wei ( @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
ππ΅πΉπΌπ² π¦π΅πΆπ΅ β ( @chloeshih ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/
tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.
Editor: Jayna Benito
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β instagram β https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod/
β spotify β https://spoti.fi/466BRP3
β apple podcasts β https://bit.ly/jomo-apple
β tiktok β https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod
β discord β https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv
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0:00 the Chloe, Kevin echochamber
0:44 patreon launched!
5:21 Chloeβs husbando with the swe pov
6:35 tier list explained
9:44 disclaimer: no vanilla wholesome today
11:12 never has their camera on
13:35 way too into boba
14:28 dyes their hair blue or purple
15:34 engineer who wants a farm
16:38 has massive imposter syndrome
18:35 works in mobile gaming
19:39 exec that won't get a real mic
22:16 Berkeley EECS grads
24:53 mental health leave post on LinkedIn
26:00 Koolaid drinkers
27:13 doesn't have a bedframe
29:03 omakase and niku guy
29:57 Canadians/Waterloo
31:17 probably working a 2nd job
32:14 still uses firefox
33:11 always snow boarding
34:04 engineers that think ur flirting with them
34:59 sends long message at 5 pm on a Friday
36:06 dual monitor, mech keyboard, ergo desk + chair set up
36:54 the type that posts on Blind
37:38 says they're poor but makes 6 figs
38:34 really, really into coffee
39:40 staff engineer who "has no filter"
41:10 gets into office at 7 am
42:05 VCs
43:04 lowkey nepo baby
43:35 white tesla drivers
44:42 PM turned startup founder
46:21 HR
47:27 diversity hire
48:48 LinkedIn influencers
49:32 startup CEO that keeps pivoting
50:18 extreme biohacker
51:53 new grads
52:25 Forbes 30U30 lister
54:27 "hi" with no follow up
55:33 slack s***poster
56:05 RPMs
57:00 interns
57:42 bootcamp engineers
58:27 only promotion projects
59:13 ladder climbers
59:58 brings their dog to the office
1:00:20 wanna go rock climbing
1:00:53 "tech jobs that make 6 figure" creators
1:02:18 hosts board game nights
1:02:50 weebs
1:03:38 sold 2 startups and now "consults"
1:04:34 only works at FAANG
1:04:42 doesn't work on a real desk or chair
1:05:59 swipes in for lunch and leaves
1:06:16 only wears free tech shirts
1:06:56 the aquihires
1:07:20 SF techies
1:09:08 LA techies
1:10:12 Seattle techies
1:10:20 NY techies
1:10:33 engineer with a really loud keyboard
1:11:21 has a photo of Elon on their desk
1:11:49 Tahoe trip planner
1:12:16 wears patagonia vests & chinos
1:12:25 guy who always complains about dating
1:14:02 crypto bros
1:14:18 looks like a recruiter, is a recruiter
1:14:58 DIML techtokers
1:15:58 MBA grad name dropper
1:16:02 PM/design GF + SE boyfriend
1:17:10 Dr. Fei-Fei Li
1:17:36 Daddy Zuck
1:18:20 Sheryl Sandberg
1:18:39 Daddy Jensen
1:19:30 Elon Musk
1:22:08 disclaimer: all for funsies
1:23:25 JOMO out
π§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com
#jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives

Aug 29, 2024 β’ 1h 8min
I'm Single. Again.
Kira returns to share her insights on the rollercoaster journey of breakups and love. Dive into the candid discussions about personal breakup histories that highlight the good, bad, and ugly aspects of relationships. They ponder the complexities of commitment, explore the impact of societal norms on single life, and share vulnerable moments while reflecting on family dynamics. Meanwhile, Eric's single status adds a humorous twist to the conversation. Discover the emotional growth that comes from navigating love and loss!

Aug 20, 2024 β’ 1h 10min
We KICKED Him Out...
In this discussion, Eric Wei, co-founder of Karat Financial, and Chloe Shih, a tech product manager, delve into the art of social navigation. They share hilarious stories about cringe-worthy moments at events and the importance of kicking out unwanted guests while setting firm boundaries. Chloe reveals her awkward fumble at a networking dinner, and both guests highlight the complexities of maintaining healthy social circles. They explore how to handle friendsβ unsavory acquaintances and emphasize the need for open communication to foster safer, more supportive communities.

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Aug 13, 2024 β’ 1h 13min
Networking as an Introvert.
Networking can be a daunting challenge for introverts. The hosts share humorous stories of their awkward encounters at large events like VidCon. They discuss the importance of forming genuine connections rather than engaging in superficial interactions. Insights from personality assessments reveal how understanding oneself can ease social anxieties. Plus, they delve into navigating beauty standards and the complexities of building relationships. Get ready for tips on connecting authentically, even when feeling overwhelmed!

Aug 6, 2024 β’ 1h 24min
My Best Friend was a Narcissist.
Diving into the complexities of adult friendships, the hosts explore why real connections are harder to maintain as life gets busier. They share personal stories about navigating toxic relationships, including a cautionary tale about an abusive best friend. The struggle to form new bonds in middle age is examined, alongside humorous takes on awkward social dynamics. With reflections on the emotional rollercoaster of friendship, they emphasize the importance of empathy, boundaries, and recognizing the need for supportive relationships in tumultuous times.

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Jul 30, 2024 β’ 1h 12min
I don't feel enough.
In this engaging discussion, Eric Wei, co-founder of a financial service for creators, and Chloe Shih, a tech product manager, explore the mental struggles of feeling inadequate despite visible success. They share personal stories of kindness, the exhausting pursuit of accomplishments, and the pressure of networking at college reunions. Reflecting on community involvement and the pressures of societal expectations, they encourage listeners to appreciate incremental progress and authenticity in their journeys.

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Jul 23, 2024 β’ 1h 14min
YouTube isn't worth it.
Eric Wei, a co-founder of Karat Financial, and Chloe Shih, a tech product manager, discuss the trade-offs between being a full-time content creator and pursuing a tech career. They explore balancing family expectations, starting a company, creating quality content, and finding passion and purpose in their professional journeys.

Jul 16, 2024 β’ 59min
Torn between tech and content.
βShould I leave my 9-5 to do content?β Weβve all had that thought, and Chloe actually made it happen. But is content really as glamorous as it seems? Chloe and Eric dive into the good, the bad, and the ugly of some of today's most enticing career paths: tech, startups, and content.
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ππΏπΆπ° πͺπ²πΆ (β @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
ππ΅πΉπΌπ² π¦π΅πΆπ΅ β ( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/
tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.
Editor: Jayna Benito
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β instagram β https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod
β spotify β https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify
β apple podcasts β https://bit.ly/jomo-apple
β tiktok β https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod
β discord β https://discord.gg/chloeshih
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0:00 sick and tired of it all
2:46 did eric get shadow banned?
4:06 learned helplessness
5:46 chloe spends HOW many hours a week on content?
9:09 chloe has the urge to go back to corporate
1048 is content less fun as a full time creator?
11:51 how to design your life
13:14 how being 30 affects your body
15:35 the three paths - content is a side hoe
17:56 the most interesting people are not online
20:13 PM is NOT a chill job
24:03 whatβs so hard about deciding life paths
27:30 do CEOs have to be good at managing people
29:13 should creators have smaller teams?
33:00 is YouTube still worth it?
35:08 how to make the most out of your PM job
39:23 feeling unimpactful as a PM
40:47 I just wanna be salary man
42:32 creators donβt get to work on the business side
44:50 chloeβs crazy grind schedule
49:11 does chloe want to start her own company?
51:18 ericβs career advice for chloe
53:35 how eric deals with burnout
54:40 eric & chloeβs plans for the next few weeks
π§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com
#jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #careeradvice

Jul 10, 2024 β’ 52min
Donβt date βsuccessfulβ people.
In Part 2 of our steamiest episode yet - what's it really like to date successful people? Do men like it when women are smarter than them? Should the man in a relationship pay more? Chloe and Eric are joined by a friend to discuss everything related to love and dating in your 30s.
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ππΏπΆπ° πͺπ²πΆ (β @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
ππ΅πΉπΌπ² π¦π΅πΆπ΅ β ( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/
tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.
Editor: Jayna Benito
Disclaimer: This episode features an open and honest discussion about our diverse dating journeys. We understand that some viewpoints may differ from your own, and we fully respect that. Our aim is to create a space for a variety of perspectives rooted in real experiences. Please remember that the content of this podcast is not intended as advice. Instead, we hope it highlights the complexity of dating and love.
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β instagram β https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod
β spotify β https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify
β apple podcasts β https://bit.ly/jomo-apple
β tiktok β https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod
β youtube β www.youtube.com/@jomopod
β discord β https://discord.gg/chloeshih
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0:00 welcome to pt 2!
0:48 what itβs like to date founders
3:02 are founders more likely to cheat?
4:22 the problems with men wanting validation
5:40 was dating in 30s different for eric
6:36 why dating in 30s gets harder for women
8:42 how eric βscreensβ potential gfs
9:27 why eric doesnβt want kids
10:45 the most forward chloe has ever been
12:57 ericβs consulting rizz
13:43 do guys like when girls are smarter
15:49 how do you know he wants to be more than friends
17:36 definite dealbreakers
18:36 GREEN flags
22:11 being gaslit into open relationships
26:36 improve yourself to attract better people in your life
29:10 why open relationships donβt work long term
31:37 when are you ready to get married
33:06 how eric views marriage
34:55 should men pay for more
41:40 how much $$ do you need to live comfortably in LA
45:09 being a housewife
46:15 favorite romantic tropes
π§ business: jomo.chat@gmail.com
#jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #dating #relationships #love


