The Audit Podcast

This week, our guest is Navin Pasricha, a longtime internal audit leader and author of Getting Ready to Roar: Chief Auditor's Guide from Audit Room to Board Room. Navin joins the show to discuss the profession's current inflection point and the opportunity internal auditors have to move from simply reporting to the board to becoming trusted voices in the boardroom. He explains why audit committees are under more pressure than ever, why resilience and future-focused risk matter so much right now, and how internal audit is uniquely positioned to help. We also talk about one of the biggest questions in the profession today: how auditors can deliver real insight. Navin shares why insight starts with recognizing patterns, understanding how an audit fits within the broader organizational ecosystem, and connecting audit work back to strategy, industry pressures, and the future direction of the business. Finally, Navin discusses key themes from his book, including how internal auditors can build trust, navigate independence while take on a more advisory role, strengthen relationships with audit committees, and develop the strategic understanding needed to lead at a higher level. Be sure to connect with Navin on LinkedIn. 6:02 - Best Advice 7:43 - Managing CAE pressures 10:40 - How to Gain Insights 12:32 - Democratizing Insights 18:50 - Getting Ready to Roar 30:20 - What is the Skill Most Overlooked by CAEs 35:40 - Building Strategic Understanding 39:00 – Final Thoughts Be sure to connect with Mark on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week, our guest is Anthony Pugliese, President and CEO of the Institute of Internal Auditors. Anthony joins the show as he approaches his five-year anniversary leading the IIA, reflecting on the major milestones and progress the organization has made during that time. He shares a look back at key initiatives from the past five years and discusses what the next phase could look like for the profession. We also talk about several recent research efforts, including the 2026 Risk in Focus survey and the joint report with AuditBoard on AI driven fraud. Anthony highlights a few key trends auditors should be watching, particularly as organizations navigate emerging technology risks and evolving expectations around governance and oversight. Finally, Anthony explains two initiatives aimed at strengthening the future of the profession: the Global Audit Committee Center, which supports stronger engagement with audit committees, and VisionU, a development program designed for new and aspiring chief audit executives. Be sure to connect with Anthony on LinkedIn. 6:02 - AI Tips 11:03 - 5 Years as IIA President 14:32 - Strategy and the New Internal Audit Standards 14:32 - Why "Simple" Implementations Rarely Actually Simple 17:40 - Key Insights from Risk in Focus 2026 and the AI Fraud Report 21:50 - AI Literacy and Training in Internal Audit 24:26 - The Audit Committee Center 27:54 - How to Join the Audit Committee center 33:25 - Experienced CAE resources 35:35 – Final Thoughts 38:26 - Best advice for CAEs from Anthony Pugliese Be sure to connect with Mark on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

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This week, we'll be joined by Marc Walrod, Controls Integration Leader at Clearsulting. Marc shares why controls integration needs to start far earlier than most organizations think, often in what he calls phase zero of a major transformation. From ERP implementations to rolling out AI across the enterprise, he explains how waiting too long to involve controls can create costly rework and unnecessary risk. He also walks through common myths management holds about controls, like assuming a well-known ERP system comes with sufficient controls already built in and outlines practical warning signs teams can watch for to ensure controls are part of the conversation before go live. If you are attending GAM Conference, be sure to stop by the booth 111 to connect with Marc and the Clearsulting team. Newsletter: https://www2.clearsulting.com/clearsulting/newsletter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/clearsulting YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Clearsulting Be sure to connect with Marc on LinkedIn. 9:18 - Actually Implementing ERP Softwares 11:26 - Integration Over Installation 13:45 - Clearsulting Methodology 15:10 - Why "Simple" Implementations Rarely Actually Simple 17:00 - The Cross-Functional Coordination Problem 20:38 - Phase Zero: Where Controls Actually Begin 27:50 - Scoping Controls Without Overcomplicating the Project 32:55 - Why Data Literacy Matters in Major Implementations 35:47 - AI and the Future of Internal Controls 39:12 – Final Thoughts Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

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This week, we'll be joined by Brian Kuenzi, Founder of a Stealth AI Startup. Brian gets specific about what works when audit teams try to modernize. He breaks down why new methodologies fail without clear ownership, discipline, and follow-through and how innovation doesn't mean abandoning rigor. He shares practical examples of how to put structure around new ideas, set non-negotiable expectations, and still give teams room to test and improve. The result: audit processes that are flexible where they should be, consistent where they must be, and focused on producing real outcomes. Be sure to connect with Brian on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

AI isn't the risk — not being able to explain it is Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics. the services firm that helps auditors leapfrog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is William Englehaupt, CEO and founder of Auditology and former director at KPMG. Bill shares his perspective on bringing discipline, structure, and consistency to audits by applying Lean and Six Sigma principles to the audit process. Drawing on his experience working with hundreds of audit teams across large public accounting firms, he explains why audits should be treated as standard work and how reducing variation in execution can dramatically improve outcomes for both auditors and clients. We talk about innovative audit methods, real-world client success stories, and why managing audits with urgency and control matters more than relying on theory or hoping things come together. Bill also walks through key ideas from his book, Managing the Hell Out of Your Audit, including the importance of upfront coaching and certifying staff before work begins to reduce rework, review notes, and frustration across audit teams Be sure to connect with Bill on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 2:52 - Bills BBQ 6:37 - A Favorite AI Prompt 9:45 - Innovative Approaches to Auditing 11:10 - Client Success Stories 16:53 - Bringing Discipline to New Methodologies 20:13 - Managing the Hell Out of Your Audit 23:08 - The Value of Upfront Coaching 26:40 - Final Thoughts This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, our guest is Aadesh Gandhre, Chief Audit Executive at DTCC. Aadesh shares his perspective on reshaping the perception of internal audit, both inside organizations and across the profession. Drawing on his background in technology and innovation, he explains why internal audit must move away from being seen as a spotlight that hunts for findings and instead become a lighthouse that helps organizations navigate risk and change. We talk about servant leadership and how small cultural shifts, such as celebrating wins, encouraging experimentation, and reframing failure as learning, can unlock innovation within audit teams. Aadesh also walks through how his team is using gamification, internal recognition, and creative engagement to build a stronger audit brand and a more motivated global workforce. Be sure to connect with Aadesh on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 3:00 – Practical AI use cases 10:30 – The servant leadership mindset 14:55 – Scaling this approach based on team size 16:30 – Building the internal audit brand 26:40 – Bringing innovation into internal audit 33:12 – Making innovation a priority in the office 40:00 – Staying current with tools and resources 44:32 – The freeze–unfreeze–refreeze change management model 49:32 – Final thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

Roberto Zambelli, Head of Audit at Vodafone Three with a background in behavioral science, explains the IIA's new topical requirements. He talks about applying structured guidance to culture and behavior audits. Short takes cover when topical requirements apply, how to collect behavioral data, and what helps behavioral audits succeed.