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Oct 12, 2021 • 45min
Against the Grain Episode 135: Virginia State of Mind
Former Virginia congressman Tom Davis, a moderate Republican, breaks down the Virginia governors' race, its role in national politics, and how education has become the hottest topic in the race.

Oct 7, 2021 • 48min
Against the Grain Episode 134: Missing the Mark
Democratic pollster Mark Mellman comes on the podcast to discuss Biden's sinking approval numbers, growing anti-Israel sentiments in the Democratic party, and the challenges Democrats face to pass the president's agenda.

Sep 30, 2021 • 50min
Against the Grain Episode 133: Diagnosing the Pandemic
Former FDA commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb, who is out with a new bestselling book, "Uncontrolled Spread: Why Covid-19 Crushed Us and How We Can Defeat the Next Pandemic," discusses when the pandemic will end, explains why Biden's vaccine mandate for private employers could backfire, and pinpoints the government's biggest mistakes throughout the COVID crisis.

Sep 24, 2021 • 46min
Against the Grain Episode 132: Democrats Divided
Center for American Progress senior fellow Ruy Teixeira joins the show to discuss the problems Democrats face by positioning themselves too far to the left on cultural issues. He also critiques how Democrats have handled the infrastructure and social spending legislation now before Congress.

Sep 17, 2021 • 53min
Against the Grain: Episode 131: David Vs. Goliath
Washington Examiner Senior Political Correspondent David Drucker joins the podcast to discuss his upcoming book, the retirement of Ohio Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, and the Virginia governor's race.

Sep 9, 2021 • 50min
Episode 130: Republican Reboot
Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan joined the podcast to talk about his new book GOP 2.0 on why he believes the GOP needs to move on from former President Trump. He also discusses the state's Senate race and the 2024 presidential election.

Aug 13, 2021 • 55min
Episode 129: Not-so-Lazy Days of Summer
Republican strategist Scott Jennings joins the podcast to talk about the bipartisan infrastructure bill, mask and vaccine mandates, and the Biden administration's handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal.

Aug 5, 2021 • 50min
Episode 128: Behind Shontel Brown's Victory
Democratic strategists Daniel Barash and Doug Thornell of SKDK join the podcast to reflect on their work on Cuyahoga County Councilwoman Shontel Brown's campaign against former Our Revolution President Nina Turner in the special election primary to replace HUD Secretary Marcia Fudge.

Jul 29, 2021 • 53min
Episode 127: Staying on Message
Republican strategist Jordan Shaw talks about pandemic politics as mask mandates return. Shaw also discusses 2022 Republican primaries in swing states like North Carolina and Pennsylvania, where he's representing Pat McCrory and Sean Parnell in those respective Senate races.

Jul 15, 2021 • 49min
Episode 126: Running in Place
Jonathan Martin, national political correspondent for the New York Times and a Hotline alum, joins the podcast to discuss covering the Trump era, races to watch, and the evolution of political journalism.


