

Voices of VR
Kent Bye
Designing for Virtual Reality. Oral history podcast featuring the pioneering artists, storytellers, and technologists driving the resurgence of virtual & augmented reality. Learn about the patterns of immersive storytelling, experiential design, ethical frameworks, & the ultimate potential of XR.
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Mar 13, 2026 • 1h 4min
#1712: Preview of SXSW XR Experience 2026 with Blake Kammerdiener
I interviewed SXSW XR Experience 2026 curator Blake Kammerdiener about this year's selection, and how immersive artists are using Generative AI in a series of different projects. Below is the selection (ordered from longest to shortest). This year's program runs from 11a to 6p CDT from Sunday, March 15-17, 2026.
XR Experience Competition
Escape The Internet (Part 1) (50 min)
Inter(mediate) Spaces (45 min)
Winterover (45 min)
Fabula Rasa: Dead Man Talking (30 min)
Frustrain: Trainman (30 min)
The Forgotten War (30 min)
Watsonville (30 min)
Fillos do Vento: A Rapa (28 min)
Crafting Crimes: The Mona Lisa Heist (20 min)
Love Bird (20 min)
The Baby Factory is Closed (20 min)
Lionia Is Leaving (18 min)
Body Proxy (15 min)
Cycle (15 min)
The Great Dictator: A participatory AI installation about power, rhetoric, and memory (15 min)
XR Experience Spotlight
The Clouds Are Two Thousand Meters Up (62 min)
The Great Orator (50 min)
Lesbian Simulator (40 min)
A Long Goodbye (35 min)
Dark Rooms (35 min)
Lacuna (34 min)
The Dollhouse (24 min)
Reality Looks Back (21 min)
Insider Outsider (12 min)
loss·y (10 min)
Lost Love Hotline (10 min)
Out of Nowhere (10 min)
Spectacular: The Art of Jonathan Yeo in Augmented Reality (10 min)
Ascended Intelligence (9 min)
MIT Open Documentary Lab’s AR and Public Space Artist Collective
Layers of Place: Austin [90 min total]
ORYZA: Healing Ground (15 min)
The Founders Pillars (15 min)
Open Access Memorial (15 min)
Paper Boat (15 min)
Humble Monuments (15 min)
Moving Memory (15 min)
This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon.
Music: Fatality

Mar 13, 2026 • 52min
#1711: Mission Responsible 3: Discussion on AI Ethics with 6 Winners of Polys Ombudsperson of the Year
This is the panel discussion of Mission Responsible 3 featuring the winners of the Polys Ombudsperson of the year including: Kent Bye (2020), Avi Bar-Zeev (2021), Brittan Heller (2022), Micaela Mantegna (2023), Ingrid Kopp (2024), and Nonny de la Pena (2025). Introduced by Renard T. Jenkins. The big topic this year was AI, but lots to say about XR as well.
Here are some links that I mentioned in the introduction that were referenced within the show:
"Freedom of Expression in Next-Generation Computing" by Brittan Heller
XR Guild's Principles
US sanctioning individual ICC judges for decisions they don't like.
The Polys 6th Annual Immersive Awards takes place next weekend on Sunday, March 22, 2026 at SVA Theatre in New York City.
This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon.
Music: Fatality

Feb 14, 2026 • 54min
#1710: When Integration Becomes Subordination: Big Tech Parallels in Carney’s Davos Speech & Untethering from the AI Big Brother
Canada’s Prime Minister Mark Carney gave a rousing speech at the World Economic Forum on January 20, 2026 about the rupture of the rules-based order of the globalized economy, and he emphasized the need to build new coalitions to sustain the pressure coming from the United States' emerging authoritarianism. Carney said, “Great powers have begun using economic integration as weapons, tariffs as leverage, financial infrastructure as coercion, supply chains as vulnerabilities to be exploited. You cannot live within the lie of mutual benefit through integration, when integration becomes the source of your subordination.”
Just as globalized, economic integrations are being weaponized by the United States, then Big Tech's integrations woven throughout our lives will continue to become the source of our own subordination, especially as surveillance capitalism heads towards its logical conclusion of an all-pervasive, AI Big Brother, perhaps eventually explicitly tied into authoritarian governments.
The AI Big Brother has already started within the context of private companies, but with the outdated Third-Party doctrine of the Fourth Amendment, then any data given to a third party has "no legitimate 'expectation of privacy'." From UNITED STATES v. MILLER (1976): "The Fourth Amendment does not prohibit the obtaining of information revealed to a third party and conveyed by him to Government authorities." So the US government can request almost any data shared with a third party without a warrant, and given Big Tech's cozy relationship to a democratically-backsliding US government, then who knows what kinds of backroom deals are being made to automate data sharing.
We're already in an era where almost all data given to a third party is not considered to be private, and you can start to see some early indications for how this can go wrong in Taylor Lorenz's interview with 404 Media's Joe Cox about ICE's surveillance technologies. It seems likely that we are entering into the very early phases of Orwell's worst nightmare of a 1984 surveillance state powered by Big Tech's AI.
In this op-ed podcast episode, I connect some dots between Carney’s Davos speech about the hegemonic forces in the geopolitical sphere and the parallels with Big Tech's push towards "contextually aware-AI," which is just an always-on AI that is surveillance capitalism on steroids. Carney's speech provides a lot of insights for how Canada is navigating this new reality where the rules-based order on the International stage seems to be dissolving. One of his deepest insights is to simply name the truth, and to describe precisely what is happening. He refers to a powerful story from Vaclav Havel's The Power of the Powerless where shopkeepers eventually "took their [propaganda] signs down" during communist rule after they were no longer willing to live within a lie.
Carney says: "The system's power comes not from its truth, but from everyone's willingness to perform as if it were true, and its fragility comes from the same source. When even one person stops performing, when the greengrocer removes his sign, the illusion begins to crack. Friends, it is time for companies and countries to take their signs down."
Taking down metaphoric signs breaks the spell of the collective performative ritual that sustains the power of an authoritarian regime. Taking a sign down is also the embodiment of the first lesson of Timothy Synder's On Tyranny, which is "Do Not Obey in Advance." This lesson is certainly easier said than done, and I've been surprised how pervasive and powerful the chilling effects to remain silent can be. I find myself self-censoring, going dark on social media, and just generally not speaking the full truth as I see it. So this episode is a step in that direction of trying to name things as I see them, but also drawing the parallels between these broader political contexts and how they're collapsing into the technological contexts.

Feb 5, 2026 • 1h 35min
#1709: Ian Hamilton on Getting Fired from UploadVR & Concerns on AI Authorship in News
On Wednesday, January 28, 2026, Ian Hamilton announced on Bluesky that "I've been fired from UploadVR." He was the editor in chief at UploadVR, and he wrote a Substack post titled "Ian is Typing" on January 30th detailing how is co-workers were pushing to do a test of a "clearly disclosed AI author for UploadVR," and that he had three specific concerns that it be brief, for the ability for readers to turn off and hide all AI-authored posts, and for human freelancers to have the right of first refusal. Hamilton claims to have tried to raise these concerns in the context of Slack, but that the experiment was going to proceed regardless. He writes, "Unable to shift the direction of my colleagues and out of options to affect what was coming, I stepped out of Slack and sent a final email to them on Wednesday morning with a number of my contacts in the industry copied, raising some of these concerns. Not long after, I was called by my boss and fired."
I spoke with Hamilton last Friday after his Substack post in order to get more context that led to his departure. Hamilton claims that UploadVR Editor & Developer David Heaney and UploadVR's Operations Manager Kyle Riesenbeck were behind the push to test this clearly disclosed AI author on UploadVR, and that ultimately the proposed test was a business decision made by Riesenbeck. It was a decision that Hamilton ultimately disagreed with, and he cites it as the primary factor that led to behavior that ultimately led to his firing. (UPDATE Feb 5, 2026: It is worth noting here that UploadVR has yet to run this AI bot author test, but that it was the proposed test that was the catalyst for Hamilton’s behavior).
The specific reasons and circumstances around Hamilton's firing are publicly disputed by Heaney, who reacted on Twitter after Hamilton's Substack post went live by saying, "It is indeed only one side of the story. And an incomplete telling of it, with key omissions and wording choices that serve to paint a misleading picture." In another post Heaney says, "I can't get into it more at this point for obvious reasons, but don't believe everything you read, especially a single side of a complex story." I asked Hamilton for his reaction to Heaney's claims that he's being misleading during our interview, and he did provide more context in our conversation that lead up to his firing. Ultimately, it does sounds like the proposed AI bot author test was the primary catalyst for Hamilton, and that this disagreement may have led to other behaviors and reactions that could also be reasonably cited for why he was fired. UploadVR may have a differing opinions as to what happened, but no one from UploadVR has made public comments beyond what Heaney has said on Twitter. I have extended invitations to both Riesenbeck or Heaney to come onto the podcast for a broader discussion about AI, but nothing has been confirmed by the time of publication.
My Personal Take on AI: Technically, Philosophically, Legally, and Culturally
Public discourse around AI has split into a binary of Pro-AI vs Anti-AI, and while my personal views can not be easily collapsed into one side of the other, I'd usually take the Anti-AI side of a debate if given the opportunity. I do think some form of AI is here to stay, and will be around for a long time, but that right now there is a lot of hype and deluded thinking on the topic. I see AI as a technology that consolidates wealth and power, and so a primary question worth asking is “Whose power and wealth is being consolidated?” Karen Hao's The Empire of AI elaborates on how the past patterns of colonialism are replaying out within the context of data and the field of AI, as well as how scaling with more compute power has been the primary mode of innovation in AI, and that Gary Marcus has been pushing against the "Scale is All You Need" theory for many years now.
Technically speaking, I'm more of a skeptic in the short-term around LLMs along the lines of Stocha...

Dec 7, 2025 • 1h 41min
#1708: How Process Philosophy Centers Experience. A Prismatic Tour of “Whitehead’s Universe” by Andrew M. Davis
In this engaging discussion, Andrew M. Davis, a process philosopher and author, dives into the world of Alfred North Whitehead’s process philosophy. He emphasizes how human experience shapes reality, exploring concepts like prehension and the integration of mind and matter. Davis also highlights the importance of creativity in understanding our universe and the value-laden nature of existence. Plus, he connects Whitehead’s ideas to art and education, envisioning a re-enchanted cosmos through process and participatory co-creation.

Dec 7, 2025 • 47min
#1707: War Journalist Turns to Immersive Art to Shatter Our Numbness Through Feeling. “In 36,000 Ways” is a Revelatory Embodied Poem by Karim Ben Khelifa
Karim Ben-Khalifa, a former war correspondent turned immersive artist, discusses his journey from frontline reporting to creating impactful art. He shares insights about his installation 'In 36,000 Ways,' highlighting how shrapnel can evoke emotions about modern warfare. Karim delves into the power of sensory design in combatting public numbness to conflict. He emphasizes the need for innovation in storytelling and the use of technology to create collective, meaningful experiences that resonate with audiences.

Dec 7, 2025 • 55min
#1706: Using Immersive Journalism to Document Genocide in Gaza with “Under the Same Sky”
Khalil Ashawi is a visual journalist and founder of Frontline in Focus XR; Hael Khalaf coordinates projects including Under the Same Sky; and Sami Sultan is a photojournalist from Gaza. They delve into the powerful use of immersive journalism to document the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Sami shares the challenges of frontline reporting and how 360° footage counters misinformation. The team discusses the emotional impact on audiences and their hopes for justice and freedom for Gazans, highlighting VR's potential to transform journalism.

Dec 7, 2025 • 1h 9min
#1705: The Art of Designing Emergent Social Dynamics with Ontroerend Goed’s “Handle with Care”
Alexander De Vriend, the artistic director of Ontroerend Goed, discusses the innovative immersive theater piece, Handle With Care. He explains how they design interactive experiences for reluctant audiences, emphasizing subtle cues that encourage participation without pressure. De Vriend shares insights on the unique distribution model of the show in boxes, audience trust, and the importance of balancing private moments with communal interactions. He reflects on the ethos of caring for unknown people, highlighting how the work creates profound connections and conversations.

Dec 7, 2025 • 56min
#1704: “Lesbian Simulator” is an Interactive VR Narrative Masterclass Balancing Levity, Pride, & Naming of Homophobic Threats
Iris van der Meulen, a digital artist known for her vibrant work in VR storytelling, dives into her interactive project, Lesbian Simulator. She discusses the origins of the game, drawing from personal experiences to explore queer identity. Listeners will be fascinated by her approach to balancing humor and trauma, worldbuilding through VR sketching, and the innovative game mechanics that simulate both joy and tension. Iris also shares audience reactions and reflects on the desire for more interactivity in VR, highlighting its potential for social change.

Dec 7, 2025 • 59min
#1703: “Reality Looks Back” Uses Quantum Possibility Metaphors & Gaussian Splats to Challenge Notions of Reality
Omid Zarei, an immersive producer and director, and Anne Jeppesen, a sound designer focused on audio-driven XR, delve into their collaborative project, Reality Looks Back. They explore the emotional core of their work, sharing a poignant hamster moment that reshaped their narrative. The duo translates lofty quantum concepts into immersive visuals and sound, discussing how personal experiences influence storytelling. Their insights on reality perception and the potential of immersive media spark intriguing conversations about disclosure and societal paradigm shifts.


