

Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11)
Patrick McKenzie
We live in a world where our civilization and daily lives depend upon institutions, infrastructure, and technological substrates that are _complicated_ but not _unknowable_. Join Patrick McKenzie (patio11) as he discusses how decisions, technology, culture, and incentives shape our finance, technology, government, and more, with the people who built (and build) those Complex Systems.
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Oct 24, 2024 • 1h 18min
Picking Uncle Sam's pocket, with Jetson Leder-Luis
Jetson Leder-Luis, an economist and fraud expert at Boston University, dives into the complexities of government program fraud. He exposes shocking healthcare fraud tactics, from hospice manipulations to ambulance service schemes. The conversation reveals how systemic flaws and poor policy designs enable these abuses. They discuss the economic fallout of fraudulent claims, the ROI on anti-fraud measures, and the ethics of vaccine distribution during COVID-19. Jetson advocates for innovative solutions to enhance regulatory frameworks and deter fraud.

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Oct 17, 2024 • 1h 29min
How real estate investing works with Moses Kagan
Moses Kagan, co-founder of Adaptive Realty and an expert in real estate investment, shares rich insights into the intricate world of property management. He discusses the challenges landlords face, from financing to tenant dynamics, and highlights the profound impact of the Internet on capital raising. Kagan compares real estate markets across major cities, dives into the significance of cap rates, and explores how societal perceptions of landlords shape the rental landscape. His perspectives illuminate the complexities of rental dynamics and the immigrant contributions to the sector.

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Oct 10, 2024 • 59min
Telling the tech story
Erik Torenberg, an investor and media entrepreneur behind Turpentine, dives into the intricate dance between tech journalism and the tech industry. He discusses how storytelling in films like 'The Social Network' shapes perceptions of entrepreneurship. The conversation highlights the decline in quality journalism as talent shifts to tech roles, and how social media dynamics lead to groupthink among journalists. Torenberg urges a nuanced understanding of media's influence on tech, moving beyond simplistic narratives.

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Oct 3, 2024 • 1h 53min
The hundred-year-old telegram worth $5 million, with Jim McKenzie
Jim McKenzie, a veteran in commercial real estate development, shares fascinating insights into navigating the complex world of urban development. He recounts the challenges of securing permits, managing local politics, and even the quirks of dealing with Chicago's infamous aldermen. The discussion highlights his unique experiences, like transforming a day-old bread store into a bank and uncovering a century-old telegram with significant legal implications. It's a revealing look at the hidden bureaucracy and intricate relationships that shape our cities.

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Sep 26, 2024 • 1h 26min
Bits, Bytes, and Burgers with Byrne Hobart
Byrne Hobart, a finance and technology writer behind The Diff, joins for a fascinating discussion on 'whales' in gaming and their parallels in various industries. They delve into the psychology of in-game spending, revealing how players transition from casual to high-end purchases. The conversation also explores bespoke software for affluent hobbies and the evolution of restaurant websites. Additionally, they share insights on the role of AI in enhancing memory and the transformation of user experiences in search.

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Sep 19, 2024 • 1h 22min
Decisions Nobody Made, policy edition, with Dave Guarino
Dave Guarino, a seasoned software engineer and policy expert with a background in California's SNAP program, dives into the complexities of public policy. He discusses the convoluted application processes that lead to user frustration. The conversation reveals how societal preferences often shape inefficient policies, and emphasizes the need for user-centric design. Guarino also explores how technology could streamline processes and improve accessibility in government systems, pushing for impactful changes that prioritize citizens' experiences.

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Sep 12, 2024 • 53min
True Crime, banking edition
A thought-provoking discussion unveils the intricacies of banking and money laundering. Dive into the three stages of money laundering: placement, layering, and integration. Explore how the financial system acts as law enforcement while facing unintended consequences of stringent regulations. The dynamics of big tech versus traditional banking reveal tensions between innovation and compliance. With a focus on KYC and AML regulations, the conversation highlights their impact on businesses and access to financial services, raising questions about the future of regulatory practices.

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Sep 5, 2024 • 1h 36min
That time we accidentally created national healthcare infrastructure, with Dave Kasten
In this discussion, Dave Kasten, who played a vital role in developing VaccinateCA, shares his journey of transforming a simple document into a key source for vaccine distribution during the pandemic. He reveals the challenges of scaling volunteer efforts and navigating government processes. Kasten highlights innovative feedback mechanisms and the surprising impact that youth have had on public health initiatives. He also addresses the complexities of tech and governmental collaboration, focusing on the lessons learned and the potential for future improvements.

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Aug 29, 2024 • 1h 11min
The mad science of drilling the earth with Austin Vernon
Austin Vernon, a petroleum engineer specialized in fracking, dives deep into the fascinating world of drilling technology. He unpacks the evolution of fracking methods and the unique funding channels, dubbed 'doctor and lawyer money.' The discussion also touches on mineral rights laws, the economic nuances of drilling operations, and how small-scale oil ventures mirror rental properties. Additionally, Vernon highlights the interplay between fracking technologies and geothermal energy, showcasing innovative advancements in drilling that promise a brighter energy future.

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Aug 22, 2024 • 1h 24min
Balancing control and chaos: cybernetics, fraud, and modern organizations with Dan Davies
Dan Davies, author of "Lying for Money" and "The Unaccountability Machine," delves into the complexities of cybernetics and its impact on modern organizations. He explores how organizations adapt as they grow, revealing the intricate relationship between financial fraud and system design. The conversation highlights the dangers of detachment in decision-making and the innovative solutions required for managing modern complexities. Davies also shares insights from his journey transitioning from banking to writing, emphasizing the true value of community connections in publishing.


