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Sep 25, 2024 • 1h 17min
817 Life After Naval Aviation
A former Naval Aviator tells us about his life after Naval aviation, the content he’s produced, and the pivot he’s making. In the news, the optics of flying in a corporate aircraft, the Boeing Starliner is back to earth with a few problems, a new Navy policy for aviator sea tours, and noise complaints at Australian airports.
Guest
Rob Roy is a former Naval Aviator who produces a YouTube channel with over 100k subscribers. He’s also the founder of the weekly Flybuyer newsletter with curated aviation news that focuses on general and business aviation. It targets people who fly airplanes, potential owners, and enthusiasts.
Rob’s YouTube channel currently includes videos of carrier landings and catapult launches made during his 2015-2016 deployment. We hear about some of Rob’s Naval aviation experiences flying the C-2 Greyhound cargo plane and training for carrier landings.
Not this Rob Roy…
The big news is the pivot Rob has taken with his life after naval aviation. He’s shifting his focus to making airplane walk-around videos full-time that will appear on his YouTube channel. Rob intends to create a large body of review videos for people who want to buy airplanes.
If you’d like to have your airplane filmed by Rob, he’s created an Airplane Filming Form form where you can express your interest. And be sure to sign up for the Flybuyer newsletter and visit Rob’s YouTube channel.
Here’s the video Rob mentioned when talking about the arresting cable that snapped during an E-2C Hawkeye’s landing in March 2016 aboard the USS Eisenhower:
Video: Cable snaps on USS Eisenhower during landing
https://youtu.be/r-EHwYOfY94?si=zO93Cjtq13exFr2X
Aviation News
Managing the Optics of Flying in a Corporate Aircraft
Corporate executives, athletes, pop stars, and celebrities often travel by corporate or private aircraft. This sometimes brings them public scrutiny due to the perceived environmental impact of their wealth or fame. The optics can generate unwanted attention. This article looks at why private/corporate might be used, the financial case, and using executive time productively. A study says executives are productive for about 80 percent of travel time while using business aviation and 30 percent while flying commercial.
It’s a good thing NASA sent the Boeing Starliner back to Earth empty because it had even more problems
The Boeing Starliner experienced problems on its crewed flight to the Space Station and returned to Earth without the astronauts. The capsule did stick the landing, but other problems surfaced. An additional thruster failed (5 of 28 had failed when Starliner docked) and the Starliner guidance system temporarily blacked out.
The thruster failures were attributed to Teflon seals swelling under heat and blocking propellant flow. The helium leaks compounded the situation. A software glitch caused the temporary blackout of the Starliner guidance system during reentry.
Boeing’s space and defense chief exits in new CEO’s first executive move
New CEO Kelly Ortberg has removed Boeing’s head of its space and defense unit, effective immediately. Steve Parker, the unit’s chief operating officer, will assume the position until a replacement is named. Starliner has cost Boeing $1.6 billion in overruns since 2016, according to a Reuters analysis of securities filings.
Navy will force aviators to remain in service to complete sea tours
The US Navy wants to increase aviation community retention and will require naval aviators to serve a pair of two-year sea tours. The new policy applies to officers serving on their first shore tour with a projected rotation date of October 2025 and beyond. It is reported that about 25% of unrestricted line aviators want to leave the Navy after their minimum service requirement. Some even request to leave the Navy when their second two-year sea tour is underway. A Naval Air Forces spokesperson says the new policy will extend most officer’s service by less than a year.
Nearly half of all aircraft noise complaints in Australia last year were filed by a single person, who complained 20,716 times
Of the 51,589 noise complaints made in 2023, one Perth resident made 20,716 of them. The next most prolific complainer made 4,071 complaints near Brisbane. Research about one specific airport in the US, Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport, found that loud noise from aircraft also has financial implications on residents, owing to lost productivity and the need for medical treatment. The study estimated that the combined medical cost burden for those living near the airport would be $800 million over 30 years.
Hosts this Episode
Max Flight, our Main(e) Man Micah, and David Vanderhoof.

Sep 18, 2024 • 1h 40min
816 Aerospace Workforce Development
Aerospace workforce development with the CEO and Executive Director of the Pacific Northwest Aerospace Alliance. In the news, the Machinist Union votes to strike Boeing, the TSA looks to Real ID enforcement, United Airlines makes a deal with SpaceX for inflight WiFi from Starlink, and more aviation firefighting foam news. Also, interviews from the Pacific Airshow Gold Coast with the Southport Flying Club and Airport president, an Air Commodore with the RAAF, and a decorated Australian war hero.
Washington state delegation at the Farnborough Air Show
Guest
Nikki Malcom is the CEO and Executive Director of the Pacific Northwest Aerospace Alliance (PNAA), a non-profit trade association that promotes the growth and global competitiveness of the Pacific Northwest. Nikki has spent many years in various roles dedicated to the aerospace industry and is obsessed with all things aviation and aerospace, including manufacturing. Nikki was previously our guest in Episode 741.
We get an update on the Pacific Northwest Aerospace Cluster, the grant-funded initiative with the mission to make the Pacific Northwest a magnet for aerospace manufacturing. Nikki explains the focus on workforce development [PDF], specifically aerospace career awareness, and all the many different roles in the supply chain.
Nikki tells us that the Aerospace From the Ground Up podcast will be launching on the Aerospace is for Everyone YouTube channel. It will mainly target the 18-25 age group, but not exclusively. We can expect to see interviews with and about the people in the industry. The PNAA is working to get more people into the pipeline. That includes launching a mentorship program and developing an online community.
PNAA provides business development by representing aerospace interests at Farnborough and other trade shows. Nikki also describes events organized by the Association, including the PNAA Advance 2025 conference to be held February 3-5, 2025. We also hear about the Aerospace Futures Alliance which advocates for Washington state’s aerospace industry.
Aviation News
Boeing Machinists reject contract as 96% vote to strike
The International Association of Machinists membership voted to go on strike at Boeing, despite the union leadership recommending they accept the negotiated contract. 94.6% of the members voted to reject the contract and 96% voted to strike. The proposed contract offered a 25% wage increase over four years but also dropped the annual bonus, which some estimated to be about 4% each year. The union wanted 40% over 3 years. Boeing Commercial Airplane CEO Stephanie Pope told employees in a message that “we did not hold back with an eye on a second vote.”
IAM Union Sends Message to IAM District 751 and W24 Members: Our Solidarity Will Win This Fight
Boeing strike will be felt throughout the aviation industry
Kansas aviation industry could be affected by machinists strike
TSA announces proposed rule to provide necessary flexibility as federal agencies prepare to enforce REAL ID requirements beginning May 7, 2025
President George W. Bush signed the REAL ID Act [PDF] into law in 2005. It requires that an identity document, like a driver’s license, show that the holder has had their identity verified. Real IDs would be necessary for accessing federal facilities and nuclear power plants, and boarding commercial flights in the United States.
The TSA now wants to implement the program by May 7, 2025 and a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking has been published that would provide federal agencies with the necessary flexibility to begin enforcement of the REAL ID regulations on the May 7, 2025 deadline in a manner that takes into account security, operational risk, and public impact. The comment period ends October 15, 2024.
See also: The TSA Now Wants a Phased Rollout of the Real ID Next Year — Here’s Why.
For more information on REAL ID, visit TSA.gov/real-id. A map there lets you click through to see how to comply with REAL ID for each US state and territory.
United Airlines bumps GEO operators off fleet for Starlink Wi-Fi
United Airlines currently provides inflight WiFi through several geostationary satellite operators. Now the airline has made a deal with SpaceX to utilize the Starlink low Earth orbit (LEO) constellation. United says the inflight WiFi will be free and the service will be the same as you’d expect on the ground with live streaming, gaming, and connecting multiple devices simultaneously. Following testing in early 2025, United expects to equip more than 1,000 planes in its international fleet with Starlink connectivity over several years.
United press release: The Inflight Wi-Fi Revolution Now Arriving: United Signs Starlink Deal to Provide Industry-Leading Connectivity in the Sky – For Free
Starlink has Wi-Fi agreements with smaller airlines and regional jet service providers including Hawaiian Airlines, airBaltic, Qatar Airways, Zipair, JSX, Flexjet, and Aero.
Inspectors warned of ‘tremendous’ potential for accidental foam discharge at Brunswick airport
Fourteen months before accidentally discharging 51,000 gallons of firefighting foam, an inspection of the system found it deficient with a high probability of failure. Yet the issues were not corrected.
Pacific Airshow Gold Coast
Interviews with:
Craig Hobart, the president of the Southport Flying Club and Airport. This is one of the 4 airfields used by the Pacific Airshow Gold Coast. It’s also a private flying club.
Mika Gray, an Air Commodore with the RAAF. We hear why the RAAF supports the airshow.
Garry Cooper, an Australian who was awarded the US Air Force Cross during his combat tour in Vietnam. He is the only non-American ever awarded the cross twice. He was also awarded the RAAF Distinguished Flying Cross, among many others. See also: Interview with Gary Cooper.
Hosts this Episode
Max Flight, our Main(e) Man Micah, and Rob Mark.

Sep 11, 2024 • 1h 46min
815 Air Travel Expert
We talk with travel expert Gary Leff from View from the Wing.com. In the news, the DOT probe of airline frequent flyer programs, U.S. airlines reduced hiring, automated landing fee collection, more on PFAS in aircraft firefighting foam, and FAA action to ease network flight delays. Also, interviews from the Pacific Airshow.
Guest
Travel expert and blogger Gary Leff was named one of the world’s top travel specialists by Conde Nast. He often appears in the media on television, radio, and in print. He’s been a keynote speaker at many conferences and both a moderator and panelist at Flightglobal industry conferences, in addition to CardCon and Fincon. His credit card advice has been featured in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. Gary blogs at View From the Wing.com and is co-founder of InsideFlyer.com.
We talked with Gary about the U.S. Department of Transportation’s inquiry into airline rewards programs, including their authority to do so and the likely time before DOT action takes place. Gary comments on the devaluation of miles and gives us his thoughts on airline staffing levels. We consider issues surrounding carry-on baggage and overhead bin space and the topic of code sharing.
Visit View From the Wing.com for the writings of a true travel expert.
Aviation News
Breaking: New Government Investigation Demands Airlines Expose Frequent Flyer Devaluations
The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) launched an inquiry into airline rewards programs to protect customers from potential unfair, deceptive, or anticompetitive practices. DOT sent letters to American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Southwest Airlines, and United Airlines ordering them to provide records and submit reports with detailed information about their rewards programs, practices, and policies. The probe is focused on the ways consumers participating in airline rewards programs are impacted by the devaluation of earned rewards, hidden or dynamic pricing, extra fees, and reduced competition and choice.
See: US probes top airlines’ frequent flyer programs for unfair practices and USDOT Seeks to Protect Consumers’ Airline Rewards in Probe of Four Largest U.S. Airlines’ Rewards Practices
U.S. airlines cool hiring after adding 194,000 employees in post-Covid spree
During the pandemic, airline employment decreased significantly as customer demand dropped. With the travel recovery, US passenger airlines added almost 194,000 jobs as they tried to catch up. Now hiring is cooling off: demand is moderating, fares are down which puts pressure on profits, labor costs are up with the new contracts, aircraft deliveries are running late, and engine availability is not where it needs to be
AOPA Objects to Possible Florida Airport Landing Fees
The state of Florida contracted with Virtower to collect aircraft movement data using ADS-B. Virtower partner Vector Airport Systems can use the Virtower data with its PlanePass system to provide automated invoicing. Vector proposes to collect a fee of $3 per 1,000 pounds of aircraft weight. AOPA says ADS-B was never intended to be used as a tool to collect landing fees. They question the need to collect fees at the public-use airports that already receive federal funds.
Virtower “monitors key airport operational parameters including takeoffs, landings, touch and go’s, pavement utilization, and based aircraft operations. While providing a quick and easy noise complaint investigations tool for all customers.”
Brunswick passes unprecedented PFAS resolution calling for action after spill
In Episode 812, we talked about aviation firefighting foam, specifically Aqueous Film-Forming Foam (AFFF) that contains dangerous PFAS (“forever chemicals”). There are efforts to transition to fluorine-free foam (F3) for aircraft firefighting. The Brunswick Town Council passed a resolution calling for a statewide inventory of AFFF that was spilled on Aug. 19, 2024. The non-binding resolution calls for the Midcoast Regional Redevelopment Authority and the Maine Department of Environmental Protection to take action.
To Ease Newark Flight Delays, the FAA Turned to Philly. Here’s Why.
The FAA moved oversight of Newark Liberty International Airport air traffic to the facility at Philadelphia International Airport. This required the relocation of 24 controllers from Long Island.
The air traffic controllers union says the move was rushed and operational problems have occurred. According to an FAA estimate, as much as 75% of the nation’s overall air traffic delays originate in the New York City area. See: FAA Knew of Potential of Radar Issues Before LaborDay Newark Failures.
Pacific Airshow Gold Coast
At the Pacific Airshow Gold Coast, Brian Coleman interviewed Kevin Elliott, the President and founder of Pacific Airshow. The two discussed the differences between the shows in Huntington Beach, CA and the Gold Coast. They also talk about the impact of the oil spill that caused the airshow closure in Huntington Beach.
Brian also interviewed Tom Tait, the Mayor of Gold Coast, Australia. They discuss the economic impact of the airshow.
Mentioned
Confessions of a New Corporate Pilot
Listener Patrick Wiggins recently flew his 300th participant in the Women of Aviation Worldwide free flight program. Patrick flies out of Tooele Valley Airport, Utah.
Cora (on the right) with her friend who participated last year.
Hosts this Episode
Max Flight, David Vanderhoof, our Main(e) Man Micah, and Rob Mark.

Sep 4, 2024 • 2h 38min
814 Bits & Pieces XXXII
We speak with the Porto Aviation Group CEO who flew to Oshkosh from Italy, the ForeFlight Head of International Growth, the CEO and Founder of Airhart Aeronautics, airline Captain Dana, an Historical Restoration Consultant about the historic terminal building at the Long Beach Airport, and flight team interns from the California Science Center program.
Porto Aviation Group
Innovation and entrepreneurship correspondent Hillel Glazer met Porto Aviation Group CEO Alberto Porto at Oshkosh. He flew there from Italy in a Rotax-powered Risen airplane making just two stops.
Alberto Porto and the Risen at EAA Airventure Oshkosh.
Capt. Dana
From Episode 80 of the Journey is the Reward podcast, Brian Coleman and Micah speak with Capt. Dana from Acme Airlines, a major U.S. carrier. Their conversation provides insight into the life of an airline pilot.
ForeFlight
Again at EAA Airventure Oshkosh, Hillel interviews Josh Tahmasebi, Head of International Growth at ForeFlight, a provider of flight planning software. He describes ForeFlight and its newest features and innovations.
Airhart Aeronautics
Hillel talks with Nikita Ermoshkin, the CEO and Founder of Airhart Aeronautics. The company seeks to build intuitive-to-fly GA airplanes that are fully fly-by-wire and more accessible. Airhart is working with Sling Aircraft to develop a safe personal aircraft that is easier to fly than others on the market.
Airhart Sling
Long Beach Airport (LGB) historic terminal building
John Thomas, Historical Restoration Consultant, led the restoration team for the 1941 historic terminal building at Long Beach Airport. (The oldest municipal airport in the state of California.) See: Long Beach Airport’s Historic Terminal Reopens Following Major Renovation, Restoration Effort.
The historic terminal building at Long Beach Airport.
California Science Center Interns
Brian Coleman and Micah speak with seven flight team interns from the California Science Center. The students describe why they signed up for the six-week program and what they learned from the experience. These are great examples of the amazing results that can be achieved when students are exposed to aviation.
Flight Team Interns. Courtesy California Science Center.
Hosts this Episode
Max Flight, with contributions from Hillel Glazer, Brian Coleman, and our Main(e) Man Micah.

Aug 28, 2024 • 1h 16min
813 Martin Mars Water Bomber
A Martin Mars water bomber has a new home, the proprotor gearbox failure that caused the Air Force’s fatal Osprey crash, the FAAs new endorsement requirement for flight instructor candidates, and a refueling incident that damaged a KC-46 and an F-15E. Also, an Australia Desk report where Brian Coleman joined Steve and Grant in Australia, and Micah called in.
Aviation News
The Hawaii Mars Water Bomber Finally Arrives At Its Forever Home, The British Columbia Aviation Museum
The Martin Hawaii Mars water bomber is now at its new British Columbia Aviation Museum home. Public access is anticipated to start on September 28. Seven of the four-engine Martin JMR Mars were built for the U.S. Navy during World War II. Four were converted to civilian water bombers for aerial firefighting by Forest Industries Flying Tankers in BC.
The Marianas Mars crashed in 1961 during firefighting operations with all four crew members perishing. In 1962, the Caroline Mars was damaged beyond repair by a typhoon. The Hawaii Mars was operated until 2016 and is now at the BC Aviation Museum. The Philippine Mars is planned to go to the Pima Air and Space Museum in Tucson, Arizona later this year.
Video: FINAL FLIGHT! Martin Mars Low Pass and Landing in Patricia Bay
https://youtu.be/Ol07yTMlM_c?si=-MDqJvr9FBeiMJx1
Flawed Metal & Failed Communication: Breaking Down the Air Force’s Fatal Osprey Crash
The Air Current reports that a persistent manufacturing problem is the cause behind ten previously unreported V-22 Osprey component failures, in addition to the fatal 2023 crash off the coast of Japan. Furthermore, the problem was well-known to Bell Boeing and the V-22 Joint Program Office (JPO), but pilots were not informed. The crash was caused by the failure of the left-side proprotor gearbox and the pilot’s decision to keep flying. The gearbox failure was most likely caused by cracking in a high-speed pinion gear and its bearing cage. Inclusions in the steel alloy may be the problem.
AFSOC CV-22B Accident Investigation Board Report [PDF]
FAA Rolls Out New Endorsement Requirement for Flight Instructor Candidates
Starting September 1, the FAA requires flight instructor candidates to have a CFI endorsement before taking the Fundamentals of Instruction (FOI) exam. Many other pilot certificates require the applicant to have a “written statement or logbook endorsement from an authorized ground or flight instructor certifying that the applicant completed an applicable ground training or home study course and is prepared for the knowledge test, or a certificate of graduation issued by a part 141 school.” See the Fundamentals of Instruction (FOI) exam sample questions. The FAA uses PSI Services LLC to provide the written exams.
Audio Reveals Details Of KC-46 And F-15E Refueling Incident That Broke Off The Tanker’s Boom
Last week, a refueling operation supported a temporary flight restriction related to a presidential visit. During the refueling, the U.S. Air Force KC-46A Pegasus tanker and an F-15E Strike Eagle experienced some issues with the hydraulic system, damaging both planes and forcing them to make emergency landings. Air Traffic Control transmissions indicate that the KC-46 lost its boom.
Australia News Desk
The Pacific Airshow Gold Coast was held over the beautiful beaches of Surfers Paradise, Queensland from August 16-18, 2024 and Steve, Grant, AND Brian Coleman were there to capture all the action.
It was the second year of the event, and crowds were noticeably larger than in 2023, with an enhanced and fully loaded flying program comprising local aerobatic performers, military contingents from Australia, the USA and UK, emergency services displays, and much more.
With Micah also on the line, we quiz Brian on his experience travelling to Australia, flying domestic sectors here with Virgin Australia, and the reaction of local flight crews to his custom-made gifts, presented as he boarded each flight.
RAAF 1SQN F-18F Super Hornet displaying at the Pacific Airshow Gold Coast (credit – G.E.G Aviation Photography)
Brian Coleman interviewing members of the Freedom Formation at Southport Flying Club, Queensland, Australia (Steve Visscher)
First Flight
Micah tells us the story of his first flight, 55 years ago.
Mentioned
The Air Show Podcast, hosted by Jon Ostrower, Brian Sumers, and Brett Snyder.
Hosts this Episode
Max Flight, our Main(e) Man Micah, and Rob Mark.

Aug 21, 2024 • 1h 19min
812 Artificial Intelligence in Aviation
The FAA roadmap for Artificial Intelligence in aviation, clean aviation fuel setbacks, aviation fire-fighting foam, blended wing body aircraft, and the new Sikorsky VH-92A Marine One helicopter. Also, a first-timer’s experience at EAA Airventure Oshkosh.
Aviation News
FAA lays out ‘roadmap’ for AI safety in aircraft
In Roadmap for Artificial Intelligence Safety Assurance [PDF], the FAA says Artificial Intelligence (AI) must demonstrate its safety before it can be utilized in aviation. This is a challenge because AI systems achieve performance and capability by learning rather than design with the absence of engineering principles that guide the traditional engineering design process.
The document’s primary purpose is to provide a path that ensures the safety of Artificial Intelligence in aircraft and related systems for inflight operations. The roadmap also recognizes significant opportunities to use AI for safety. A set of principles are identified as well as the next steps in five areas to enable safety enhancements and the safe use of AI.
Clean Fuel Startups Were Supposed to Be the Next Big Thing. Now They Are Collapsing.
The article describes headwinds that impede progress toward the broader use of clean aviation fuel.
United Airlines plans to use jet fuel made from trash
United Airlines partnered with about 30 other global firms to form an “Eco-Skies Alliance” to finance the use of SAF made from trash. The airline’s initiative appears to have shut down.
Leading hydrogen aircraft startup is suddenly grounded
Startup Universal Hydrogen raised $100 million with backing from GE Aviation, American Airlines, and the venture capital arms of Airbus, JetBlue, and Toyota. Shareholders were recently informed that the company was shutting down. Universal Hydrogen could not raise additional financing from either new or existing investors.
Oil majors back out of biofuel in Europe
BP scaled back expansion plans for sustainable aviation fuel and renewable diesel in Europe. Chevron is furloughing workers at its Oeding, Germany biodiesel plant. Shell halted construction of a biofuel plant in Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
Air New Zealand becomes first major airline to scrap its 2030 climate goal
The airline cited delivery delays of new fuel-efficient aircraft and the price of alternative jet fuels. The 2030 target had been to reduce carbon intensity by 28.9%, compared with 2019 levels. The airline is working on a new near-term target.
Nearly 400 gallons of high-expansion foam fills Coast Guard hangar in Mobile
Due to a fault in the fire alarm system at the United States Coast Guard Aviation Training Center, almost 400 gallons of high-expansion foam filled the hangar. Three HC-144 Ocean Sentry airplanes and four MH-60 Jayhawk helicopters were in the hangar. These aircraft are being cleaned and inspected to assess damage.
WKRG Video: Nearly 400 gallons of high-expansion foam fills Coast Guard hangar in Mobile
https://youtu.be/7s4SRMLF6OU?si=1mZuMIHycZ3tAnt2
Because the widely-used Aqueous Film-Forming Foam (AFFF) contains dangerous PFAS (referred to as “forever chemicals”), the FAA and the Department of Defense (DoD) have engaged in a significant research project to test fluorine-free foam (F3).
Fluorine-Free Foam (F3) Transition for Aircraft Firefighting
In December 2022, Congress directed the FAA to prepare a transition plan to ensure an orderly move to MILSPEC F3 for aircraft firefighting. See: FAA Aircraft FireFighting Foam Transition Plan. In January 2023, DoD published an F3 military specification (MILSPEC), and foam manufacturers can now submit MILSPEC F3 agents for qualification by DoD. Once DoD certifies that a foam meets the new specification, it will be added to the Qualified Product List. FAA considers foams on the Qualified Product List as acceptable to use to satisfy the regulatory requirements of Part 139.
Video: Fluorine Free Foam (F3) Transition Awareness Webinar [1 hour 30 min]
https://youtu.be/m7KaS6rQ6l0?si=GmavbpLtEkzvCyyr
Alaska Airlines backs JetZero, takes options for future BWB aircraft
JetZero is working with the US Air Force, NASA, and the FAA to develop an ultra-efficient Blended Wing Body jet for entry into service by 2030. Alaska Airlines’ venture capital arm, Alaska Star Ventures, invested in JetZero under a Series A funding round last year. Alaska has taken options for future aircraft orders. Financial terms were not disclosed.
Biden takes inaugural flight in long-delayed new ‘Marine One’ helicopter
President Joe Biden took his first flight aboard the Sikorsky VH-92A helicopter serving as Marine One. The was the maiden presidential voyage for the years-delayed helicopter.
Guest
Mali experienced her first EAA Airventure Oshkosh this year. She’s not an aviation enthusiast herself, but her father and brother are. Mali wanted to attend Osh so she could understand their passion for aviation. She tells us what she learned.
Mali and her father flew to Oshkosh in her father’s Cherokee. They stopped along the way at the National Museum of the United States Air Force for a “crash course” in aviation. Then at Airventure, Mali immersed herself in all that the event had to offer, including camping with the plane. It’s a fascinating look at this great event through the eyes of a perhaps atypical attendee.
Mentioned
Dirt track hall of fame driver Scott Bloomquist believed dead in plane crash and Racing Driver Scott Bloomquist Dies In Cub Crash
Hosts this Episode
Max Flight, our Main(e) Man Micah, and Hillel Glazer.

Aug 14, 2024 • 1h 39min
811 Wright Electric Airplane Motors
We speak with the Founder and CEO of Wright Electric, an aviation company with a goal to make all regional single-aisle flights zero-emissions. In the news, Boeing testified before the NTSB about the 737 door plug incident, American Airlines new standby rules are criticized, Space-X may bring the Boeing Starliner astronauts back from the International Space Station, and the impact on Delta Air Lines after the Microsoft/CrowdStrike global IT outage. We also have an Australia News Desk report.
Guest
Jeff Engler is the Founder and CEO of Wright Electric. The company develops ultra-lightweight electric motors, generators, and batteries for aerospace and defense. Wright is leveraging the company’s megawatt-class propulsion system to transform a 100-passenger BAe 146 into an all-electric, zero-emissions aircraft. Wright and Columbia University are developing batteries that are up to four times lighter than lithium-ion.
Jeff explains how the company all started with a newsletter and came to focus on flights with more than 100 passengers and shorter than 800 miles. He describes what distinguishes aircraft propulsion electric motors from other electric motors, and how the transportation market segments into different technologies for different applications.
We consider the important issue of battery energy density and why Wright has decided to develop their lightweight batteries. Also, we discuss programs the company is involved in, the C-130/LM-100J and BAe 146 aircraft that support the technology development, and Wright’s commercial, government, and academic partners. Jeff describes Wright’s timeline targets for retrofitted and clean-sheet electric aircraft.
Jeff started the company when he learned flying tripled his carbon footprint. He incubated Wright through a Harvard University fellowship and led Wright through the selective Y Combinator accelerator program. He previously co-founded Podimetrics, a medical device company that has raised $70M+ in venture funding. Jeff has undergraduate and graduate degrees from Columbia and Harvard.
See:
Wright Steps Up Ground Testing for 2.5MW Electric Motor
Wright Electric assembling 2.5MW WM2500 electric propulsion unit
Wright Electric & Columbia University Receive U.S. Department of Energy Award for Ultra-Lightweight Battery Development
U.S. Air Force Backs Wright’s Work On Rechargeable Thermal Batteries
Surprise test flight heralds ultra-long-range electric aircraft by 2028
Samsung’s EV battery breakthrough: 600-mile charge in 9 mins, 20 year lifespan
Alliance for Zero-Emission Aviation (AZEA) – The Alliance is a voluntary initiative of private and public partners who share the objective of preparing the entry into commercial service of hydrogen-powered and electric aircraft.
Other articles supporting our conversation:
DOD Report: Consolidation of Defense Industrial Base Poses Risks to National Security [PDF]
Reducing the Cost of Space Travel with Reusable Launch Vehicles – NSTXL.
Aviation News
NTSB chair: Boeing reassigning workers to Everett was retaliation
NTSB chief rips Boeing over lack of 737 Max answers
The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) held an investigative hearing open to the public in the NTSB Boardroom on August 6-7, 2024. During the hearing, the NTSB gathered sworn testimonies about the Jan. 5, 2024, Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 door plug incident. This was a fact-finding step in the safety investigation and the testimonies became part of the public record.
NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy asked Boeing Director of Quality Hector Silva if he was “100 percent sure a defect will not occur tomorrow” and whether he was “100 percent sure there will never be an unauthorized removal” of a door plug. He replied, “No.” Boeing factory workers told the hearing they felt pressured to work fast and complete jobs for which they did not feel qualified.
Videos of the hearing are publicly available. Note: Each video is over 8 hours long.
NTSB Investigative Hearing – Alaska Airlines flight 1282 (Day 1)
NTSB Investigative Hearing – Alaska Airlines flight 1282 (Day 2)
Cost-Cutting Chaos: New American Airlines Standby Rules and IT Glitches Leave Loyal Flyers Stranded
Gary Leff writes that “American Airlines standby is a mess, and it encapsulates much of what is wrong with the carrier. They don’t have their customer in mind when making and changing policies. Instead, the focus is on reducing costs, and getting customers to change their behavior.”
Standby isn’t allowed if you have checked bags, unless you’re an AAdvantage elite. Once you check a bag, you can no longer add yourself to standby using American’s mobile tools. But Gold and Platinum elite members aren’t allowed to add themselves any other way. Also, passengers cannot get help from an agent to get on a different flight, and passengers still have to follow their original routing.
Dragon Rescue For Starliner Crew Looking More Likely
Test pilots Sunni Williams and Butch Wilmore flew to the International Space Station in the Boeing Starliner crew capsule on an eight-day mission. It docked with the Space Station on June 6, 2024. However, thruster and helium leak issues have plagued the capsule, preventing their return to earth. Boeing and NASA have conducted many space and ground tests of the propulsion system, but root cause of the problems is still not understood.
According to its most recently published Mission Update on August 2, 2024 Boeing’s confidence remains high in Starliner’s return with crew: “The testing has confirmed 27 of 28 RCS thrusters are healthy and back to full operational capability. Starliner’s propulsion system also maintains redundancy and the helium levels remain stable. The data also supports root cause assessments for the helium and thruster issues and flight rationale for Starliner and its crew’s return to Earth.”
Yet on August 7, 2024, NASA held a teleconference to discuss the options for getting the two astronauts home. The safety of the Starliner is still being discussed. An alternative for bringing them home is to use an upcoming SpaceX Crew 9 mission delayed and launched with two empty seats. The Starliner crew would return in February 2025 and the Starliner would return to Earth autonomously.
NASA likely to significantly delay the launch of Crew 9 due to Starliner issues
Sources tell Ars Technica that “Officials are contemplating moving the Crew-9 mission from its current date of August 18 to September 24, a significant slip.” Such a delay would give NASA more time to determine the safety of the Starliner, and time for Boeing to implement a software update that could take up to four weeks.
NASA safety discussions center around “the performance of the small reaction control system thrusters in proximity to the space station. If the right combination of them fail before Starliner has moved sufficiently far from the station, Starliner could become uncontrollable and collide with the space station. The thrusters are also needed later in the flight back to Earth to set up the critical de-orbit burn and entry in Earth’s atmosphere.”
Microsoft says Delta ignored Satya Nadella’s offer of CrowdStrike help
Last month a significant global outage of some Windows systems followed a flawed CrowdSource software update. Microsoft estimated 8.5 million Windows devices were disabled. Airlines, and many others, were unable to operate some of their systems.
Delta Air Lines took longer to get back online than other airlines and says it was forced to cancel around 7,000 flights over 5 days. Delta has criticized Microsoft and CrowdSource and wants compensation for the $500 million it claims was lost. Microsoft said that Delta was operating with an outdated IT infrastructure, and refused help from the Microsoft CEO.
Delta is being investigated by the US Department of Transportation and a lawsuit has been filed against Delta on behalf of passengers whose flights were canceled. CrowdStrike has since been sued by its shareholders.
Australia News Desk
In our last report, we spoke of the difficulties new entrants to the Australian airline market face, and how it almost always ends in tears. With startup LCC Bonza Air exiting the scene earlier this year, we were full of praise for Regional Express (Rex), who seemed at least on the surface of things to really be kicking some goals.
So imagine our surprise when it was announced on July 30th that Rex had been placed into voluntary administration; its 737 fleet grounded and their associated flights canceled. It was news that blindsides many in the industry and media alike and appears to have come in the wake of a board-level stoush that’s left the carrier starved of funding.
News out today suggests Rex’s deficit may be as high at $A500million.
Affected passengers (including Steve and his wife) were re-booked on Virgin Australia flights – a process which has so far been flawless, with VA taking leases on three of Rex’s 10 737-800’s (jets which ironically had come from VA in the first place) to bolster capacity.
Rex’s regional SAAB 340 services remain operational at present, as administrators Ernst & Young seek to find a buyer for the airline.
In defence news, the USAF have parked a handful of F-22’s at RAAF Base Williamtown in New South Wales, allowing joint training exercises with local F-35A’s from 3SQN & 77SQN. Two of these Hickam-based Raptors will be making their way north to Queensland for the upcoming Pacific Airshow Gold Coast. Raptors are not often seen in this part of the world, so it’ll be a treat to see them perform at the event.
And speaking of the Pacific Airshow Gold Coast, Steve and Grant will be there for all the action, along with the Airplane Geeks’ very own Brian Coleman. Be sure to let us know if you’ll be there too! August 16-18, 2024.
Image credit: G.E.G Aviation Photography (by permission)
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Max Flight, our Main(e) Man Micah, and Rob Mark.

Aug 7, 2024 • 1h 36min
810 Digital Twins
Digital twins captured by aircraft, the new Boeing CEO is named, the airline fee disclosure rule hits a roadblock, the NGAD fighter is paused, the FAA approves BVLOS flights, Wheels Up continues to lose money, and the cause of the fatal CV-22 Osprey accident.
Guest
Ron Chapple is the VP of Global Strategic Solutions Digital Twins at NV5 Geospatial. He leads a team that works with clients worldwide to acquire, process, and analyze high-resolution lidar and imaging data to create digital twins for various industries and applications. The team uses leading-edge technologies and sensors to capture and visualize data.
The digital twins created by NV5 are virtual representations of physical objects, processes, or systems that can be used for real-time monitoring, analysis, and simulation. Digital twins can have applications for many industries, including aviation, energy, education, manufacturing, construction, healthcare, and transportation. Organizations can also use them for training and emergency planning and response.
Ron describes how geospatially correct digital twins are created using LiDAR, optical, and other sensors, typically with helicopters or drones, and sometimes with fixed-wing aircraft. We learn how multiple sensor data is combined for the digital twins and the requirement for precise piloting. Ron also illustrates aviation applications for digital twins by explaining some of the airport projects undertaken by NV5. These applications include obstruction analysis, real-time monitoring of ground traffic, and operations simulation.
Ron has more than 10 years of experience in lidar and imaging. He founded GEO1, a company that specialized in electric utility, oil and gas, archaeology, and coastal and highway corridor acquisition projects. GEO1 was acquired by NV5 Geospatial in June 2022 and has expanded in scope to include virtual reality, virtual production, and digital twin creation.
Ron got his start in aerial cinematography. He worked with USA Today and National Geographic on projects that won a Pulitzer Prize and several EMMY awards and traveled to remote and challenging locations, such as Patagonia, the Arctic Circle, Mt. Everest, Colombia, and Hawaii, to collect and document data that can help preserve and protect natural and cultural heritage.
To learn more about digital twins, see Your Guide to Geospatial Digital Twins to request a free ebook.
Aviation News
Boeing Board Names Kelly Ortberg President and CEO
The Boeing board of directors selected Robert K. “Kelly” Ortberg as the company’s next president and CEO, succeeding Dave Calhoun, effective August 8, 2024. Ortberg began his career as an engineer at Texas Instruments, then joined Rockwell Collins as a program manager, eventually becoming its president and CEO. He steered the company’s integration with United Technologies which then became RTX after merging with Raytheon. Ortberg served on the RTX Board of Directors and is the former Chair of the Aerospace Industries Association (AIA) Board of Governors.
U.S. appeals court blocks airline fee disclosure rule
The U.S. Transportation Department’s new rule requiring airlines and ticket agents to disclose service fees along with airfare has been temporarily blocked by a U.S. appeals court. The industry asked the court for a temporary block and the three-judge panel said the rule “likely exceeds DOT’s authority and will irreparably harm airlines.” The suit was brought by United, American, Delta, JetBlue, Alaska Airlines, Airlines for America, and the International Air Transport Association. See also A4A, U.S. Airlines Sue DOT Over Fee Disclosure Rule.
Air Force ‘taking a pause’ on NGAD next-gen fighter
The US Air Force pauses the Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) stealth fighter program while taking a “hard look” at the jet’s design. Boeing and Lockheed Martin are believed to be the primes competing for the NGAD contract. At the same time, GE Aerospace and Pratt & Whitney are competing to develop prototypes for the Next Generation Adaptive Propulsion (NGAP) program.
FAA Makes Drone History in Dallas Area
Generally, BVLOS (Beyond Visual Line of Sight) drone flights are not allowed. However, with advances in Unmanned Aircraft System Traffic Management (UTM) technology, the FAA has authorized Zipline International and Wing Aviation to fly commercial drones without visual observers in the Dallas-area airspace.
Delta Air Lines Must Fix Its Unprofitable Wheels Up Investment – Soon
Wheels Up offers members a global network of private aircraft that can be booked via a website or an app. Wheels Up was founded in 2013. Delta Air Lines took a 95% share in August 2023. The company continues to lose money.
CV-22 Osprey Crash In Japan Was Caused By Gearbox Failure
The Air Force Special Operations Command released its findings into the fatal crash of a CV-22 off the Japanese coast last year, where eight crew perished. The cause of the crash was determined by the Accident Investigation Board (AIB) to be a catastrophic failure of the left-hand Proprotor Gearbox. The crew diverted to an airport about 60 miles away, but on final approach at 800 feet AGL, the aircraft rolled twice and impacted the water. The AIB found the decisions made by the pilot were a significant contributing factor as they were causal, prolonged the mishap sequence, and did not consider an earlier landing at a different divert location.
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Remembering Gordon Baxter: A Mentor and One of Flying Magazine’s Best
Stay Safe While Building Flight Time With Max Trescott, Aviation Careers Podcast
Students explore careers in aviation thanks to new program at Ashtabula County Technical & Career Campus
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David’s Lego Concorde, and friend.
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Max Flight, our Main(e) Man Micah, Rob Mark, David Vanderhoof, and Max Trescott.

Jul 31, 2024 • 2h 4min
809 EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2024
From EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2024, the GoAERO competition for emergency response aircraft, Bose headset technology, the Honeywell Anthem™ Integrated Flight Deck, and the Pivotal Helix eVTOL. In the news, Southwest Airlines changes its boarding process, will begin redeye flights, names a transformation executive, and comes under increased FAA scrutiny. Also, the FAA and NATCA come together on changes to address controller fatigue.
Guest
EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2024
Our Innovation and Entrepreneurship Correspondent Hillel Glazer attended EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2024 and captured many interviews. We hear four of them in this episode:
GoAERO Prize CEO Gwen Lighter
GoAERO is looking for teams to design and build the world’s first-ever autonomy-enabled Emergency Response Flyer. The vision is a world where every first responder has life-saving aerial capability enabled by compact size and autonomous operations. With support from Boeing, NASA, Honeywell, RTX, and many others, teams will work will make emergency response aircraft accessible to all. Over $2 Million in prizes will be awarded.
Video: Ready. Set. GoAERO.
https://youtu.be/WwPBletov_s?si=Id26BnAg4fhouRXt
Bose Product Manager Jason Brisbois
Jason and Hillel talk about Bose aviation headsets and the noise-canceling technology they utilize.
Honeywell Project Pilot Ed Manning
The Honeywell Anthem™ Integrated Flight Deck is installed in a Pilatus PC-12 test aircraft which recently completed its first flight. This milestone demonstrated the system’s safety and maturity and is a step forward on the certification path.
Pivotal Director of Product Marketing Greg Kerr
The Helix eVTOL is Pivotal’s first aircraft to be produced at scale. The single-seat tilt aircraft employs fixed rotors and tandem wings. It is classified as a Part 103 Ultralight. The carbon fiber composite Helix weighs 254 lbs empty.
Pivotal Helix at AirVenture
Video: Pivotal | The World is Yours to Explore
Aviation News
Southwest Airlines Launches Enhancements to Transform Customer Experience And Improve Financial Performance
Southwest Airlines will assign seats, offer premium seating options on all flights, and add 24-hour operation capabilities to introduce redeye flights. Southwest Officer Ryan was named Green to lead new efforts as Executive Vice President Commercial Transformation.
The airline says that 80% of Southwest customers and 86% of potential customers prefer an assigned seat. Southwest expects roughly one-third of seats across the fleet to offer extended legroom.
See also: The end of an era: Why I’m sad about Southwest Airlines saying farewell to open seating by Benét J. Wilson.
Oversight may have led to Southwest Airlines flight using closed runway at Portland Jetport
The NTSB preliminary report says that the flight crew of a Southwest Airlines plane that took off from a temporarily closed runway at the Portland Jetport did not realize the runway was closed on that day.
FAA Investigation Continues Into Southwest Low Altitude Alert At TPA
Southwest Airlines flight WN-425 descended to within 150 feet AGL about 4 miles from the end of the runway at Tampa International Airport. The aircraft should have been at 1,600 feet. The tower controller called a low altitude alert and the crew answered they were performing a go-around. The plane landed at Fort Lauderdale International Airport about 40 minutes later and then returned to Tampa International.
Southwest under FAA audit after series of safety incidents
The airline said “We recently formed a dedicated team of subject-matter experts and leaders from Southwest, our union partners, and the FAA to bolster our existing Safety Management System. This group is tasked with performing an in-depth, data-driven analysis to identify any opportunities for improvement.”
FAA, Controllers Reach Agreement on Fatigue Mitigation
FAA and NATCA Reach Agreement to Address Controller Fatigue by Providing More Rest Between Shifts
The FAA and the National Air Traffic Controllers Association (NATCA) agreed that air traffic controllers will get at least 10 hours off between shifts and 12 hours off before and after a midnight shift. These changes are meant to address controller fatigue. Also, the number of consecutive overtime assignments will be limited, and the agreement includes education on how to make recuperative breaks more effective. The FAA and NATCA will consult with experts and create a collaborative workgroup to expand the Fatigue Risk Management System and Fatigue Safety Steering Committee.
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Author Jamie Dodson.
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Max Flight, our Main(e) Man Micah, Rob Mark, and David Vanderhoof.

Jul 24, 2024 • 1h 26min
808 Commercial Market Outlook
Boeing’s commercial market outlook, the AirVenture and Farnborough air shows, Airbus’ A321XLR certification, funding for FAA infrastructure, Embraer’s Eve flying taxi prototype, JetBlue’s unpaid leave offer to flight attendants, and first officers decline to upgrade to captain.
Aviation News
Boeing Forecasts Demand for Nearly 44,000 New Airplanes Through 2043 as Air Travel Surpasses Pre-Pandemic Levels
Boeing released its Commercial Market Outlook (CMO) for 2024-2043, including an interactive dashboard.
CMO forecast highlights through 2043:
The global commercial fleet is projected to grow 3.2% annually.
The air cargo fleet will increase by two-thirds by 2043, to support 4.1% annual air cargo traffic growth.
The number of global routes served by commercial airlines has returned to 2019 levels, even though nearly 20% of them are new, illustrating the adaptability of aviation in a dynamic market.
Single-aisle airplanes will make up 71% of the 2043 fleet.
The global widebody fleet will more than double, with twin-aisles comprising 44% of the Middle East fleet.
It’s Opening Week for Two of the World’s Largest Airshows
EAA AirVenture Oshkosh is July 22 – July 28, 2024. EAA has about 300,000 members worldwide. AirVenture sees more than 500,000 attendees over the week-long event they call The World’s Greatest Aviation Celebration®.
The Farnborough International Airshow is held every two years, alternating with the Paris Air Show. This year Farnborough is July 22 – July 26, 2024, and targets the global aerospace industry. See Farnborough Air Show 2024 – Preview from the Royal Aeronautical Society.
Airbus A321XLR Receives EASA Type Certification
The European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) issued Type Certification for the Airbus A321XLR powered by CFM LEAP-1A engines. Airbus has a backlog of over 500 single-aisle A321XLR orders. Iberia is the launch customer and EIS is expected in November 2024. Airbus also has orders from Qantas, Icelandair, and IAG Group. Certification for the Pratt & Whitney GTF variant is to come next.
Groups Push Lawmakers To Up FAA’s ATC Equipment Budget
Twenty-six industry associations sent a letter to the Appropriations Committees, the Senate Commerce Committee, and the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee asking for more ATC modernization funding. The associations represent business and general aviation, airlines, air traffic controllers and specialists, pilots and flight attendants, and manufacturers.
The groups note an uncommitted balance in the Airport and Airway Trust Fund (AATF) that could be used for the FAA’s Facilities and Equipment (F&E) account. “We… believe more must be done to not only maintain and sustain the ATC system but also to modernize it.” The Airport and Airway Trust Fund (AATF), also known as the Aviation Trust Fund, was established in 1970 to help finance the FAA’s investments in the airport and airway system, independent of the General Fund.
Embraer’s Eve rolls out flying taxi prototype, cash needs covered until 2027
Embraer subsidiary Eve Air Mobility revealed their full-scale eVTOL prototype. The fixed-wing aircraft uses eight propellers for vertical flight and an electric pusher motor. The first prototype does not have a cabin or pilot. The final aircraft will seat four passengers and a pilot.
Eve was founded in 2020 and plans to obtain certification and enter service in 2026. Five conforming prototypes are planned for 2025. The company says they have letters of intent for 2,900 eVTOLs that seat four passengers and a pilot. Investors include United Airlines, BAE Systems, Thales, and Rolls-Royce.
Eve eVTOL protype.
JetBlue to Offer Six Months of Unpaid Leave to Flight Attendants, Trim Number of Crew Members On Transatlantic Flights
A Transport Workers Union of America (TWU) memo says JetBlue is taking steps to reduce costs. Flight attendants should expect “significantly reduced” flying schedules during the October to March winter season and more time sitting on reserve, although they can take unpaid leave of absence. The memo also says that JetBlue plans to reduce the number of flight attendants working on transatlantic flights from the current five to just four for “the foreseeable future”. JetBlue plans to disable the privacy doors in its Mint Business Class on some planes and thus reduce the number of flight attendants required on these planes.
Pilots are ditching top captain jobs in favor of $200,000 second-in-command gigs with better work-life balance, JetBlue founder says
JetBlue founder and founder-CEO of Breeze Airways David Neeleman says there are many pilots, but they don’t all want the workload and stress of a captain. Neeleman said, “First officer pay has gone up so much that a lot of these people don’t want to upgrade to captain because it affects their quality of life.” American’s pilots union said that in 2023, 7,000 pilots declined promotions to captain.
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Hype.aero
Eurasia
Pacific Airshow Gold Coast
Skyryse Revolutionizes Helicopter Controls with Single Stick in Robinson R66 + GA News
Video: Strong winds shift plane at DFW Airport
https://youtu.be/dEIITXINAAE?si=TNPUaveqL5Z_Vrp7
737-800 rudder mechanism.
Video: Liquid Nitrogen Experiments: The Film Canister
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Wheel Bearings podcast by Sam Abuelsamid.
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Max Flight, our Main(e) Man Micah, Rob Mark, Max Trescott, and David Vanderhoof.


