

Upside-Down Parenting
Summit Ministries
Do you feel overwhelmed by the responsibility of helping your kids see the world the way God does? Does parenting sometimes leave you feeling disoriented—like you're spinning upside-down?
You're not alone. We love our kids and want more than anything for them to grow up with flourishing faith. Each episode of this podcast will give you practical insight, biblical wisdom, and encouragement for the journey. We're here to walk through both the hard stuff and the everyday stuff with you. By connecting truth with relationships, we can create a powerful, lasting influence in a child's life. When our kids experience both—the clarity of biblical truth and the security of God's love, and yours—it creates a space for real transformation.
If parenting feels upside-down sometimes, that's okay—following God's design often is upside-down compared to everything around us, and that's exactly what makes it powerful.
Welcome to Upside-Down Parenting from Summit Ministries. Let's journey together.
You're not alone. We love our kids and want more than anything for them to grow up with flourishing faith. Each episode of this podcast will give you practical insight, biblical wisdom, and encouragement for the journey. We're here to walk through both the hard stuff and the everyday stuff with you. By connecting truth with relationships, we can create a powerful, lasting influence in a child's life. When our kids experience both—the clarity of biblical truth and the security of God's love, and yours—it creates a space for real transformation.
If parenting feels upside-down sometimes, that's okay—following God's design often is upside-down compared to everything around us, and that's exactly what makes it powerful.
Welcome to Upside-Down Parenting from Summit Ministries. Let's journey together.
Episodes
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Jan 16, 2026 • 29min
Talking with Your Kids About God w/ Natasha Crain | Ep. 27
Welcome back to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast! I'm your host, Janel Greig, and today we're launching into a conversation to help set your family's faith on the right path for the new year—a true New Year Reset for Christian parents. In this episode, we're excited to welcome Natasha Crain, author of several books, including Talking with Your Kids About God, Keeping Your Kids on God's Side, and a number of others. She is a respected speaker, podcaster, and influencer and her gift of taking complicated topics and breaking them down is remarkable. Today we're diving into why intentional, faith-filled conversations with your children are so crucial—and what that looks like in real life. From practical tips for sparking dialogue, to how to respond when you don't have all the answers, to the importance of your heart posture as a parent, Natasha shares insights every Christian parent can use to help their kids build a lasting faith. Whether your kids are little or teens, this is a hope-filled, practical conversation to help you start the year with clarity, purpose, and mission in your family. So get comfortable, settle in, and let's dive in! Have a question for us? Email podcast@summit.org—your question may be featured in an upcoming Q&A! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Talking with Your Kids about God: 30 Conversations Every Christian Parent Must Have—Natasha Crain *Keeping Your Kids on God's Side: 40 Conversations to Help Them Build a Lasting Faith—Natasha Crain *World Watch *When Your Kids Ask Why: Everyday Apologetics for Parents—Janel Greig

Jan 9, 2026 • 56min
Raising AI-Wise Kids in a Digital Age w/ Sarah Siegand | Ep. 26
Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast! Technology is shaping our kids' world faster than ever—and artificial intelligence is at the center of the conversation. How can Christian parents raise discerning, faithful children in this digital age? In this episode, we'll hear from Sarah Siegand, founder of Parents Who Fight, who joins us to explore wise, faith-filled parenting in the age of technology. She shares practical strategies to guide kids toward wisdom, cultivate discernment, and keep Christ at the center of family life—without fear and with hope for the future. Whether you're a parent, grandparent, or mentor, this conversation will equip you to engage technology thoughtfully and shepherd the next generation with confidence. Have a question for us? Email podcast@summit.org—your question may be featured in an upcoming Q&A! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Parents Who Fight *AI, Technology, & Human Development—Shawn Ring *AI Goes to Church: Pastoral Wisdom for Artificial Intelligence—Todd Korpi *Parent ProTech

Jan 5, 2026 • 35min
How to Set a Family Mission, Values, & Verse Together—A New Year Reset for Christian Parents | Ep. 25
Welcome back to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast, and Happy New Year! We're so glad you're kicking off the new year with us. Today we're diving into a conversation that could set the tone for your entire year as a family. The truth is, most families don't drift toward purpose—they drift toward busyness, apathy, or passivity. And if we're not intentional, we let the world dictate our schedules instead of discipling our kids. That's why, in this episode, we're talking about starting the year on purpose—on mission—by creating a simple family mission, identifying your core values, and choosing a Bible verse that anchors everything you do. No matter your family's life stage, this is a practical, hope-filled way to bring clarity, unity, and direction to your home. So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and let's build a meaningful foundation for the year together. Email us at podcast@summit.org—your question may shape an upcoming Q&A! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *The Meaning of Marriage: Facing the Complexities of Commitment with the Wisdom of God—Timothy and Kathy Keller *Choosing a Family "Rule of Life" for the New Year: A Simple Guide for Christian Parents—Jesse Childress *What role does family play in society?—Jennifer Marshall

Dec 19, 2025 • 28min
Making Holiday Memories That Matter: Choosing Presence Over Perfection | Ep. 24
Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting Podcast! As we step into the Christmas season—a time filled with joy, anticipation, and plenty of emotion—we're glad you're here. I'm joined by my co-host, Matt Jones, and together we're slowing things down to talk about what it really looks like to flourish as a family during the holidays. Whether you're wrapping gifts, driving to a Christmas program, or grabbing a quiet moment between events, this episode is an invitation to cultivate a season marked by presence, connection, and intentionality—all while keeping our hearts centered on the birth of our Savior. Have a question you'd like us to explore in a future episode? Email us at podcast@summit.org—your question may shape an upcoming Q&A! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Women in Apologetics *Your Kids Need a Bigger Christmas Story—Sara Starkey *5 Reasons to Celebrate Advent—Hannah Long *Is Christmas Pagan? Helping Your Kids Understand the Truth—Timothy Fox

Dec 12, 2025 • 30min
Got Questions? We've Got Answers: Teens, Faith, & Apathy | Ep. 23
Who doesn't love a good Q&A podcast? Today, we're diving into some of the biggest and most pressing questions Christian parents are asking right now—questions about raising resilient kids in a rapidly shifting culture, standing boldly for biblical truth, and helping your children embrace God's upside-down Kingdom in their everyday lives. In this episode, we'll unpack practical parenting strategies, offer faith-filled encouragement, and share real-life tools you can start using immediately. From navigating cultural confusion to strengthening your child's spiritual foundation, we're here to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and Christ-centered wisdom. Have a question you'd like us to tackle in a future episode? Send it our way at podcast@summit.org—your question just might shape our next Q&A! So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and let's jump into today's conversation! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *58% of Highly Engaged Christian Parents Choose a Church with Their Kids in Mind—Barna Group *2025 American Worldview Inventory Report 1 & Report 2—George Barna *How Concerned Are Christian Parents About Their Children's Faith Formation?—Barna Group *The Sibling Effect: What the Bonds Among Brothers & Sisters Reveal about Us—Jeffrey Kluger *The Nuts and Bolts of Worldview Formation—Dr. Maggie Pope & Dr. Roger Erdvig

Dec 5, 2025 • 35min
Finding Your Voice as a Parent: Speaking Boldly in an Apathetic Culture w/ Katy Faust | Ep. 22
As parents, we all want to raise kids who can recognize truth, love what's good, and stand firm in a world that often feels confusing or apathetic. In this episode of the Upside-Down Parenting Podcast, hosts Matt Jones and Janel Greig talk with global children's advocate Katy Faust about how ordinary moms and dads can find their voice and confidently lead their families. Katy shares her inspiring journey from being an anonymous blogger to becoming the Founder and President of Them Before Us, a movement dedicated to protecting children's rights. Her story shows that you don't need a platform—you just need conviction and a willingness to speak up. In this conversation, we explore: Why kids need more than love and safety—they need both their mom and dad How to talk with your kids about cultural messages that contradict biblical truth Practical ways to push past fear, self-doubt, or criticism as a parent The most important thing you can do to help your children stand boldly for truth Encouragement for parents who feel overwhelmed, unsure, or alone You'll also get to know Katy through a fun rapid-fire round that highlights the habits and influences that shape her own family life. If you're a parent wanting to raise confident, grounded kids in today's world, this episode will give you clarity, courage, and hope. Have questions for a future Q&A episode? Email us at podcast@summit.org with the subject line "Upside-Down Parenting." Thanks for listening! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Them Before Us *Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement—Katy Faust & Stacy Manning *Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City: Teaching Historical, Economic, & Biological Truth in a World of Lies—Katy Faust & Stacy Manning *Pro-Child Politics: Why Every Cultural, Economic, & National Issue Is a Matter of Justice for Children—Katy Faust *Kids' Rights, IVF, Legislation, and More with Katy Faust & Josh Wood

Nov 28, 2025 • 27min
Helping Teens Care About God Again: What Parents Can Do | Ep. 21
Parenting is an incredible adventure—but it can also feel confusing and overwhelming, especially when your teen drifts into apathy about faith. In this episode of the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries, Matt and Janel unpack what apathy really is, why it shows up, and how parents can help their kids reawaken desire for God through meaningful, everyday practices. We kick things off with stories from Matt and Janel's lives—from student moments and family traditions, to the world of PSATs, college planning, and the subtle apathy teens sometimes bring to significant life transitions. These honest reflections help set the stage for today's deep dive. This episode offers rich insight for parents who want to cultivate deeper meaning, mission, and affection in their home. Apathy isn't solved in one conversation—it's shaped over time through rhythms that awaken the heart and steady the soul. 👉 Have a question for our next Q&A episode? Email us at podcast@summit.org with "Upside-Down Parenting" in the subject line. Thanks for listening—and we'll see you next time! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Five Reasons for Spiritual Apathy in Teens: What Parents Can Do to Help—Rob & Amy Rienow *The 5 Love Languages: The Secret to Love that Lasts—Gary Chapman *Overcoming Apathy: Gospel Hope for Those Who Struggle to Care—Uche Anizor *Five to Thrive: How to Determine if Your Core Needs Are Being Met (And What To Do When They're Not)—Kathy Koch

Nov 21, 2025 • 27min
Pick up the Mic! Why Teens Stop Caring About God: Understanding the Drift | Ep. 20
Why do so many teens seem to lose spiritual interest, disconnect from faith, or drift into apathy? And what can parents do about it? In this episode of the Upside-Down Parenting Podcast from Summit Ministries, hosts Matt Jones and Janel Greig open with real-life stories to highlight the surprising moments when God uses ordinary experiences to shape our kids' hearts. Then they dive into the rising challenge of spiritual apathy among teens. Instead of simply blaming attitude or immaturity, Matt and Janel explore the deeper heart issues behind apathy and unpack key reasons today's teens disengage spiritually. They discuss how parents can use these reasons as "heart check-ups" to understand what's really going on beneath the surface. Along the way, they discuss practical parenting stories—humility in parenting, asking forgiveness without excuses, heart-motivation conversations, managing fear when a teen pulls away, and creating rhythms of honesty, grace, and discipleship in the home. But there is hope! apathy doesn't happen overnight, and neither does growth—but God meets parents and teens in the middle of the mess. Next week, they'll turn to what parents can do to help reignite a teen's desire for God. If you have a question you'd like answered on a future Q&A episode, email podcast@summit.org and include "Upside-Down Parenting" in the subject line. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Five Reasons for Spiritual Apathy in Teens: What Parents Can Do to Help—Rob & Amy Rienow *The 4 Questions That Shape a Teen's Faith *Visionary Parenting: Capture a God-Sized Vision for Your Family—Rob & Amy Rienow

Nov 14, 2025 • 1h 5min
Raising Confident Boys & Girls with a Biblical Identity w/ Dr. Jeff Myers & Dr. Kathy Koch | Ep. 19
Today, we're thrilled to share a special episode of the Upside-Down Parenting podcast with you. Several times a year, we host livestreams at Summit specifically for parents—and a few months ago, Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch joined us for one of those events to discuss their latest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design. In this conversation, Dr. Jeff and Dr. Kathy equip and encourage parents to navigate today's gender confusion with both clarity and compassion—always grounded in biblical truth. And here's some fantastic news: you can actually get a free copy of their book by visiting Summit.org/Parents. Be sure to check it out! With that said, let's jump into the discussion. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch *Resilient Kids: Raising Them to Embrace Life with Confidence—Dr. Kathy Koch *Parent Kit: Sexuality & Identity

Nov 10, 2025 • 27min
Pick up the Mic! Overcoming Apathy: Gospel Hope for Those Who Struggle to Care | Ep. 18
Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. Parenting is one of the greatest adventures ever, yet we all know that parenting can also feel overwhelming and confusing. The great news is you don't have to do it alone. We're here to walk with you as you raise your kids to embrace God's counter-cultural truth, his upside-down kingdom, and champion a biblical worldview. On this episode, we're continuing our conversation about apathy—and how we can push back with courage and purpose. As parents, how can we resist the tide of indifference and step boldly into action? How can we help our kids avoid falling into the same trap? The call to action may look different for each of us, but the heart is the same: pick up the mic. Don't defer, delay, or disengage. Step in. Speak up. Be part of shaping a worldview grounded in truth, courage, and love. So, let's dive in! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism—Paul Vitz *What Do I Say When . . . ?: A Parent's Guide to Navigating Cultural Chaos for Children and Teens—Andrew T. Walker & Christian Walker *How Parents' Modeling Faith Shapes Their Child's Beliefs—Dr. Jason Barker


