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The 14 Rules of the Discernment of Spirits with Fr. Timothy Gallagher with Kris McGregor Episode Eleven: Rule Nine – Why God Allows Spiritual Desolation Episode 11 -The Ninth Rule: There are three principal reasons why we find ourselves desolate. The first is, because of our being tepid, lazy or negligent in our spiritual exercises; and so through our faults, spiritual consolation withdraws from us. The second, to try us and see how much we are and how much we let ourselves out in His service and praise without such great pay of consolation and great graces. The third, to give us true acquaintance and knowledge, that we may interiorly feel that it is not ours to get or keep great devotion, intense love, tears, or any other spiritual consolation, but that all is the gift and grace of God our Lord, and that we may not build a nest in a thing not ours, raising our intellect into some pride or vainglory, attributing to us devotion or the other things of the spiritual consolation. Episode Eleven of The Discernment of Spirits: Setting the Captives Free focuses on Rule Nine, where St. Ignatius addresses one of the most important questions in the spiritual life. If God loves us and we love God, why does He allow spiritual desolation? Fr. Timothy Gallagher, in conversation with Kris McGregor, explains why this rule completes and deepens the earlier teachings on desolation. Fr. Gallagher begins by naming the problem directly. A person is sincere. Prayer has been faithful. Growth has been real. Then suddenly, consolation disappears. Prayer becomes difficult. God feels distant. Without Rule Nine, the spiritual life would be left with an unanswered wound. Ignatius does not avoid the question. He gives reasons. Ignatius teaches that there are three principal causes for spiritual desolation. The first is straightforward. At times, desolation comes because of negligence or sloth in spiritual practices. Something has slipped. Prayer has been shortened. Attention has wandered. Desolation acts as a wake-up call. It alerts the heart so that healthy adjustments can be made and communion with God restored. Fr. Gallagher offers a concrete example. A person begins daily prayer with Scripture and grows steadily. Life then becomes chaotic. Illness. Work pressures. Fatigue. Prayer is set aside for understandable reasons. When life settles again, prayer is not resumed. Over time, the sense of God’s closeness fades. Desolation reveals what has been lost and invites renewal. Ignatius himself reflects on this in his spiritual diary. He recognizes that consolation withdrew when his attentiveness to God slipped. He concludes that it was better not to be consoled during his faults. God, who loves him more than he loves himself, permitted desolation for his greater good. The second reason Ignatius gives is trial. God allows desolation to test the heart. The trial reveals how much a person seeks God apart from spiritual rewards. Growth occurs here. Something is learned that could not be learned otherwise. Fr. Gallagher notes that many people look back on periods of spiritual darkness and later recognize how much they grew through them. To illustrate this, Fr. Gallagher recalls earlier examples and everyday spiritual life. Discernment is not lived only in peak moments or major decisions. It is lived while driving home, sitting at a kitchen table, or facing discouragement at the end of an ordinary day. This is where Ignatius’s wisdom meets real life. Fr. Gallagher then turns to the words of St. Francis of Assisi. A brother approaches Francis during a time of temptation and heaviness. Francis responds with astonishing tenderness. He tells the brother that the more he is tempted, the more he is loved. Temptation overcome, Francis says, is like a ring by which the Lord espouses the soul to Himself. Trial becomes intimacy. The third reason Ignatius gives is humility. Spiritual consolation is not something we produce. It is pure gift. Desolation teaches this truth in the flesh. When consolation is absent, the heart learns that devotion, tears, and love are not possessions. They belong to God. This protects the soul from subtle pride and roots it in humility. Fr. Gallagher draws on the spiritual journal of Blessed Peter Faber. Faber describes repeated experiences of discouragement followed closely by God’s remedy. Each trial became a stimulus to deeper growth. Desolation never left him lukewarm. It called him forward. The episode concludes with a personal reflection from Fr. Gallagher. Looking back on a painful season of darkness, he recognizes that it compelled him to grow, study, and take new steps that shaped his entire vocation. What felt destructive at the time became formative in hindsight. Episode Eleven presents Rule Nine as a rule of deep reassurance. Spiritual desolation is never meaningless. God may allow it to correct, to strengthen, or to humble. In every case, God acts out of love. The God who allows desolation is the God who loves us more than we love ourselves. Discerning Hearts Questions for Reflection and Study Personal Reflection How do you usually interpret spiritual heaviness when it appears? Have you ever noticed desolation revealing an area of neglect in your spiritual life? Can you recall growth that came through a time of trial or darkness? How does knowing that consolation is pure gift change your perspective? Which of the three reasons for desolation speaks most to your current experience? Group Reflection or Study Why is Rule Nine essential to understanding spiritual desolation? How does Ignatius prevent us from assuming desolation always means failure? What role does trial play in spiritual maturity? How do the stories of St. Francis and Blessed Peter Faber illuminate this rule? How can this teaching help parish leaders accompany others through discouragement?  The 14 Rules for Discerning Spirits – “The Different Movements Which Are Caused In The Soul” as outlined by St. Ignatius of Loyola click here  For the other episodes in this series visit Fr. Timothy Gallagher’s “Discerning Hearts”click here  Father Timothy M. Gallagher, O.M.V., was ordained in 1979 as a member of the Oblates of the Virgin Mary, a religious community dedicated to retreats and spiritual formation according to the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius.  Fr. Gallagher is featured on the EWTN series “Living the Discerning Life:  The Spiritual Teachings of St. Ignatius of Loyola The post DOS#11 The Ninth Rule – Discernment of Spirits w/ Fr. Timothy Gallagher – Discerning Hearts Podcasts appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts.

The 14 Rules of the Discernment of Spirits with Fr. Timothy Gallagher with Kris McGregor Episode Twelve: Rule Ten – Preparing for Desolation in Times of Consolation Episode 12-The Tenth Rule: Let him who is in consolation think how he will be in the desolation which will come after, taking new strength for then. Episode Twelve of The Discernment of Spirits: Setting the Captives Free focuses on Rule Ten, which turns attention to what a person can do during times of spiritual consolation. Fr. Timothy Gallagher, in conversation with Kris McGregor, explains that this rule is still ultimately about facing spiritual desolation with strength and freedom. Fr. Gallagher begins by noting that Ignatius never loses sight of the real struggle in the spiritual life. The greatest danger often arises when discouragement returns. For this reason, Ignatius teaches that times of consolation are not only gifts to be received, but opportunities to prepare. Consolation strengthens the heart. It also provides clarity and foresight. Ignatius urges the person in consolation to think ahead. Desolation will return. This is normal in the spiritual life. The question is not whether it will come, but whether we will be ready. Fr. Gallagher compares this wisdom to the story of Joseph, who stored grain during years of abundance so that there would be food during famine. Consolation is a season of abundance meant to sustain future struggle. To show how this works in lived experience, Fr. Gallagher reflects on a moving account from St. Elizabeth Ann Seton. As a young woman, Elizabeth experienced an overwhelming sense of God’s love while alone in nature. She described God as her Father and her All. That moment of deep peace and joy became a source of lasting spiritual growth. Fr. Gallagher explains that the first and primary response to consolation is exactly this. We receive it fully. We allow God’s love to take root. Only after this does Ignatius add a second counsel. In times of consolation, we can consciously store strength for future desolation. Fr. Gallagher uses simple images to explain this. A sailor who anticipates changes in the wind braces himself. A passenger who sees a sharp turn ahead steadies his grip. Awareness makes the difference between falling and remaining secure. Fr. Gallagher then offers practical ways to live Rule Ten. One is to ask God directly for help for future desolation while still in consolation. Another is to recall Scriptures and truths that have sustained us in past trials. These truths become readily available later, when clarity feels harder to find. Reflecting again on the reasons God may allow desolation, as taught in Rule Nine, also prepares the heart to endure it with trust. The episode highlights the value of remembering past desolations. When we look back with God and see how growth came through struggle, confidence grows. The heart learns that God remains faithful even when consolation fades. This memory becomes a source of strength when darkness returns. Fr. Gallagher and Kris McGregor also discuss the practice of journaling. Writing during times of consolation can preserve clarity. When desolation comes, those written words serve as a reminder of truth. They counter forgetfulness and discouragement. Journaling also helps patterns emerge and deepens self-awareness. Finally, Fr. Gallagher encourages regular review of the rules themselves. Learning the rules once is not enough. They must be revisited and kept close. Some people post them visibly. Others carry summaries. The form matters less than the habit. What matters is keeping Ignatius’s wisdom within reach. Episode Twelve presents Rule Ten as a rule of foresight and hope. Consolation is not only a moment of joy. It is a gift meant to strengthen the heart for future trials. When consolation is received fully and lived wisely, desolation loses its power. The spiritual life grows steady and resilient. Captives are set free. Discerning Hearts Questions for Reflection and Study Personal Reflection How do you usually respond when you experience spiritual consolation? Have you ever prepared for future struggles during a time of peace? What Scriptures or truths strengthen you most during difficulty? How does remembering past desolations change your outlook on current trials? Would journaling help you retain clarity during times of consolation? Group Reflection or Study Why does Ignatius place Rule Ten after the rules on desolation? How does the image of storing grain help explain this rule? Why is it important to receive consolation fully before trying to prepare? How can journaling or review strengthen communal spiritual life? How might Rule Ten help parish leaders and retreat participants remain steady?  The 14 Rules for Discerning Spirits – “The Different Movements Which Are Caused In The Soul” as outlined by St. Ignatius of Loyola click here  For the other episodes in this series visit Fr. Timothy Gallagher’s “Discerning Hearts”click here  Father Timothy M. Gallagher, O.M.V., was ordained in 1979 as a member of the Oblates of the Virgin Mary, a religious community dedicated to retreats and spiritual formation according to the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius.  Fr. Gallagher is featured on the EWTN series “Living the Discerning Life:  The Spiritual Teachings of St. Ignatius of Loyola The post DOS#12 The Tenth Rule – Discernment of Spirits w/ Fr. Timothy Gallagher – Discerning Hearts Podcast appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts.

The 14 Rules of the Discernment of Spirits with Fr. Timothy Gallagher with Kris McGregor Episode Thirteen: Rule Eleven – Humility in Consolation and Trust in Desolation Episode 13-The Eleventh Rule: Let him who is consoled see to humbling himself and lowering himself as much as he can, thinking how little he is able for in the time of desolation without such grace or consolation. On the contrary, let him who is in desolation think that he can do much with the grace sufficient to resist all his enemies, taking strength in his Creator and Lord. Episode Thirteen of The Discernment of Spirits: Setting the Captives Free focuses on Rule Eleven, a rule that brings balance and maturity to the spiritual life. Fr. Timothy Gallagher, in conversation with Kris McGregor, explains how Ignatius teaches the soul to remain steady whether it is experiencing spiritual consolation or spiritual desolation. Fr. Gallagher describes Rule Eleven as a kind of spiritual portrait. Ignatius addresses the same person living through alternating experiences of consolation and desolation. Rather than treating these moments separately, this rule shows how to live both wisely and faithfully. The goal is balance. The result is spiritual maturity. Ignatius first addresses the person in spiritual consolation. When God’s love is felt deeply and prayer is filled with joy, the temptation can be subtle. A person may begin to rely on personal strength rather than grace. Ignatius counsels humility. The one who is consoled should lower himself as much as possible, remembering how little he is capable of in times of desolation without God’s grace. Fr. Gallagher illustrates this wisdom through Scripture and lived experience. He reflects on the words of Mary in the Magnificat. Her soul rejoices in God, yet she remains deeply aware of her lowliness. Consolation does not lead her to self-confidence. It leads her to humility and praise. By contrast, Fr. Gallagher recalls the experience of St. Peter on Holy Thursday. Peter sincerely loved the Lord and believed he was strong enough to remain faithful. Yet he relied on his own resolve rather than grace. When trial came, his strength failed. Ignatius’s counsel protects the heart from this kind of spiritual fall. Ignatius then turns to the person in spiritual desolation. Here the temptation is opposite. The heart feels weak. Prayer feels empty. Discouragement suggests failure is inevitable. Ignatius counters this lie directly. The person in desolation should remember that God’s sufficient grace remains fully present, even when it is not felt. Fr. Gallagher explains that this truth restores courage. With God’s grace, the soul can resist every spiritual enemy. Nothing essential is lost in desolation. The capacity to remain faithful endures. By recalling this truth, the heart takes on new strength and regains confidence. Rule Eleven holds these two movements together. In consolation, the soul avoids becoming naively high. In desolation, it avoids becoming despairingly low. Humility and trust work together. The soul moves forward steadily toward God. Episode Thirteen presents Rule Eleven as the mark of a mature discerning heart. It teaches how to remain grounded in joy and courageous in struggle. In both states, the soul learns to rely on grace rather than feeling. Freedom deepens. Stability grows. Captives are set free. Discerning Hearts Questions for Reflection and Study Personal Reflection How do you usually respond when prayer is filled with joy and clarity? Do times of consolation ever lead you to rely on your own strength? How do you tend to interpret your abilities during spiritual desolation? What helps you remember that God’s grace remains even when it is not felt? How does Rule Eleven invite you to greater balance in your spiritual life? Group Reflection or Study Why does Ignatius place Rule Eleven at this point in the series of rules? How do humility and trust protect the soul in opposite spiritual states? What do the examples of Mary and Peter reveal about consolation and trial? Why is remembering God’s sufficient grace essential during desolation? How might Rule Eleven help form mature discernment in parish communities?  The 14 Rules for Discerning Spirits – “The Different Movements Which Are Caused In The Soul” as outlined by St. Ignatius of Loyola click here  For the other episodes in this series visit Fr. Timothy Gallagher’s “Discerning Hearts”click here  Father Timothy M. Gallagher, O.M.V., was ordained in 1979 as a member of the Oblates of the Virgin Mary, a religious community dedicated to retreats and spiritual formation according to the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius.  Fr. Gallagher is featured on the EWTN series “Living the Discerning Life:  The Spiritual Teachings of St. Ignatius of Loyola The post DOS#13 The Eleventh Rule – Discernment of Spirits w/ Fr. Timothy Gallagher – Discerning Hearts Podcasts appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts.

The 14 Rules of the Discernment of Spirits with Fr. Timothy Gallagher with Kris McGregor Episode Fourteen: Rule Twelve – Standing Firm at the Beginning of Temptation Episode 14-The Twelve Rule: The enemy acts like a woman, in being weak against vigor and strong of will. Because, as it is the way of the woman when she is quarrelling with some man to lose heart, taking flight when the man shows her much courage: and on the contrary, if the man, losing heart, begins to fly, the wrath, revenge, and ferocity of the woman is very great, and so without bounds; in the same manner, it is the way of the enemy to weaken and lose heart, his temptations taking flight, when the person who is exercising himself in spiritual things opposes a bold front against the temptations of the enemy, doing diametrically the opposite. And on the contrary, if the person who is exercising himself commences to have fear and lose heart in suffering the temptations, there is no beast so wild on the face of the earth as the enemy of human nature in following out his damnable intention with so great malice. Episode Fourteen of The Discernment of Spirits: Setting the Captives Free focuses on Rule Twelve, where St. Ignatius of Loyola reveals a decisive truth about temptation. Fr. Timothy Gallagher, in conversation with Kris McGregor, explains that the enemy is weak when faced with strength and strong only when met with weakness. Fr. Gallagher begins by naming an important shift in the rules. Until now, Ignatius has focused primarily on spiritual desolation, the heaviness of heart that drains desire for prayer and goodness. In Rule Twelve, Ignatius turns directly to temptation, which is a deceptive suggestion that may initially feel attractive and may not include heaviness at all. Temptation often appears as a small invitation. It seems harmless. It feels manageable. This is precisely where its danger lies. Ignatius presents a striking metaphor to describe the enemy’s behavior. While the original image is intentionally unsettling, Fr. Gallagher offers a clearer substitute. The enemy is like a spoiled child whose power depends entirely on the response of the parents. When the parents hesitate or appease, the child’s behavior escalates. When the parents are firm, the behavior stops immediately. The enemy, Ignatius teaches, operates in exactly the same way. Fr. Gallagher explains the central teaching of Rule Twelve. When a person stands firm at the beginning of a temptation, the enemy loses heart and withdraws. When a person hesitates, reasons, or begins to give way, the temptation grows stronger. The enemy’s apparent power comes only from delay. Strength exposes weakness. Firmness brings freedom. To make this concrete, Fr. Gallagher uses the image of a snowball at the top of a mountain. At the very beginning, it can be stopped with a single finger. Once it gains speed and mass, it becomes dangerous and difficult to stop. Temptation follows the same pattern. The earliest moment is the easiest moment to resist. Every delay increases difficulty and sorrow. This rule is illustrated through Scripture. Fr. Gallagher contrasts Eve, who enters into dialogue with the tempter and allows the snowball to begin, with Jesus, who immediately counters temptation in the desert with the word of God. One response allows temptation to grow. The other ends it at once. The episode also draws wisdom from the saints. St. Benedict counsels that wrongful thoughts should be dashed against Christ as soon as they arise. St. Francis of Assisi responds to the slightest sign of discouragement by immediately turning to prayer. Both saints lived the wisdom of Rule Twelve long before it was written. Fr. Gallagher shares pastoral examples that show how easily temptation escalates when firmness is delayed. A shortened prayer leads to further neglect. A small compromise opens the door to greater discouragement. In contrast, a single firm decision at the beginning often prevents deep spiritual harm. The episode concludes with a powerful reminder. Rule Twelve is not about extraordinary heroism. It is about timing. The enemy’s tactic succeeds only when allowed to continue. When temptation is met quickly and firmly, freedom is restored. Sorrow is spared. The spiritual life becomes lighter and clearer. Episode Fourteen presents Rule Twelve as one of the most practical and hope-filled teachings in the Discernment of Spirits. When this rule is remembered and lived, the snowball never begins. The heart remains free. Captives are set free. Discerning Hearts Questions for Reflection and Study Personal Reflection Can you recognize early moments when temptation first appears in your daily life? What usually happens when you delay responding to a troubling thought? Have you experienced freedom by acting firmly at the beginning? What small decisions help you remain faithful in prayer and discipline? How does Rule Twelve change your confidence in facing temptation? Group Reflection or Study Why does Ignatius focus on the beginning of temptation in Rule Twelve? How does the spoiled child image help clarify the enemy’s weakness? What role does delay play in strengthening temptation? How do the examples of Jesus, St. Benedict, and St. Francis confirm this rule? How might this rule help parish communities prevent discouragement and burnout?  The 14 Rules for Discerning Spirits – “The Different Movements Which Are Caused In The Soul” as outlined by St. Ignatius of Loyola click here  For the other episodes in this series visit Fr. Timothy Gallagher’s “Discerning Hearts”click here  Father Timothy M. Gallagher, O.M.V., was ordained in 1979 as a member of the Oblates of the Virgin Mary, a religious community dedicated to retreats and spiritual formation according to the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius.  Fr. Gallagher is featured on the EWTN series “Living the Discerning Life:  The Spiritual Teachings of St. Ignatius of Loyola The post DOS#14 The Twelfth Rule – Discernment of Spirits w/ Fr. Timothy Gallagher – Discerning Hearts Podcasts appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts.

Fr. Timothy Gallagher, an expert in the discernment of spirits, explores the tactics of the enemy of human nature and emphasizes the importance of revealing one's spiritual burdens to prevent the enemy from succeeding. He shares stories of St. Therese of the Child Jesus and a missionary priest to illustrate the significance of speaking openly about doubts and seeking spiritual guidance. This chapter highlights the value of confession, retreats, spiritual direction, and the support of conjugal spirituality and family prayer.

The 14 Rules of the Discernment of Spirits with Fr. Timothy Gallagher with Kris McGregor Episode Sixteen: Rule Fourteen – Strengthening the Weakest Point Episode 16 – The Fourteenth Rule: Likewise, he behaves as a chief bent on conquering and robbing what he desires: for, as a captain and chief of the army, pitching his camp, and looking at the forces or defenses of a stronghold, attacks it on the weakest side, in like manner the enemy of human nature, roaming about, looks in turn at all our virtues, theological, cardinal and moral; and where he finds us weakest and most in need for our eternal salvation, there he attacks us and aims at taking us. Episode Sixteen of The Discernment of Spirits: Setting the Captives Free brings the First Week rules to completion with Rule Fourteen, the final and culminating insight of St. Ignatius. Fr. Timothy Gallagher, in conversation with Kris McGregor, explains how the enemy studies the whole of our spiritual life and attacks precisely where we are weakest. Ignatius describes the enemy as a leader intent on conquering and robbing. This is not a noble battle. It is theft and destruction. Like a captain surveying a fortified town, the enemy circles patiently. He studies the defenses. He looks for the crumbling wall. When the weakest point is found, the attack begins there. Fr. Gallagher unfolds this image with care. He invites us to picture a fortified town on a hill. Strong walls. Towers. Gates. Yet one section is cracked and fragile. That single weakness renders the entire defense vulnerable. Ignatius teaches that our spiritual life works the same way. The enemy does not attack randomly. He attacks where discouragement most easily takes hold. Fr. Gallagher names how this appears in lived experience. A person notices a repeated pattern. The same exhaustion. The same fear. The same frustration. The same loss of confidence in God’s love. These are not coincidences. They reveal Rule Fourteen terrain. This is the place where the enemy returns again and again. Ignatius does not leave us without a response. Fr. Gallagher explains that the remedy is proactive and hopeful. The town does not wait for attack. During a time of peace, the people examine their defenses. They identify the crumbling wall. They rebuild it with care. Stone by stone. What was weakest becomes strong. This is the goal of Rule Fourteen. The discerning person learns where the enemy is most likely to strike. Even before temptation arises, growth begins there. Virtue is strengthened. Balance is restored. Interior wounds are tended with honesty and patience. When the enemy returns, he finds no easy entrance. Fr. Gallagher draws wisdom from St. John of the Cross, who teaches that growth in one virtue strengthens all the others. When the weakest point is healed, the whole spiritual life gains stability. Freedom deepens across every area. Kris McGregor raises an important connection to healing. Often the weakest point is rooted in a wound. A memory. A fear. A place of pain that continues to influence responses. Fr. Gallagher affirms this insight and turns to the Gospel. Jesus is revealed again and again as the healer. Growth in discernment often includes allowing Christ to heal what lies beneath repeated discouragement. Episode Sixteen presents Rule Fourteen as the doorway into a lifelong discerning life. The rules do not end here. They begin here. When the weakest point is strengthened, the enemy loses ground. The heart grows resilient. Freedom becomes stable and enduring. Captives are set free. Discerning Hearts Questions for Reflection and Study Personal Reflection Do you notice patterns where discouragement returns repeatedly? What situations most often weaken your prayer or confidence? Are there wounds or fears beneath these recurring struggles? How might you begin strengthening this area with patience and grace? Where might Christ be inviting you toward healing? Group Reflection or Study Why does Ignatius place Rule Fourteen at the end of the First Week? How does the fortified town image clarify the enemy’s tactic? Why is proactive growth more effective than reactive resistance? How does healing relate to long-term spiritual freedom? How can communities help one another strengthen weak points?  The 14 Rules for Discerning Spirits – “The Different Movements Which Are Caused In The Soul” as outlined by St. Ignatius of Loyola click here  For the other episodes in this series visit Fr. Timothy Gallagher’s “Discerning Hearts”click here    Father Timothy M. Gallagher, O.M.V., was ordained in 1979 as a member of the Oblates of the Virgin Mary, a religious community dedicated to retreats and spiritual formation according to the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius.  Fr. Gallagher is featured on the EWTN series “Living the Discerning Life:  The Spiritual Teachings of St. Ignatius of Loyola The post DOS#16 The Fourteenth Rule – Discernment of Spirits w/Fr. Timothy Gallagher – Discerning Hearts Podcasts appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts.