

It Could Happen Here
Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts
It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.
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Oct 19, 2025 • 36min
CZM Book Club: Two Tales of Classic Horror, by Saki and Bierce
Explore the nuanced relationship between horror and storytelling as classic ghost tales are brought to life. Discover the mischief in Saki's 'The Open Window' and its satire on Victorian society through a clever twist. Ambrose Bierce's eerie narrative, 'An Inhabitant of Carcosa,' reveals chilling truths about life and death in a deserted city. Delve into the influence of Carcosa on modern horror, tracing its legacy through literary giants to contemporary works. The discussions highlight the spectrum where Gothic meets cosmic horror, providing a rich backdrop for both tales.

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Oct 18, 2025 • 3h 53min
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Dahlia Killsback, a member of the Cheyenne Northern Tribe and expert in tribal policy, delves into the history of Indigenous Peoples Day and the Doctrine of Discovery, analyzing its impact on land rights. Meanwhile, the lead reporter covers the alarming human cost of Title 42, tracing its origins and the devastating consequences for migrants at the border. Personal stories highlight the struggles faced by those fleeing violence, while volunteers coordinate crucial aid amid complicated immigration policies and ongoing challenges on the ground.

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Oct 17, 2025 • 50min
CZM Rewind: Title 42, Pt 4: The Border Patrol
Jen Budd, a former senior Border Patrol agent and intelligence officer, shares her insider perspective on Border Patrol operations and culture. She discusses the troubling implications of the 100-mile Constitution-free zone and how enforcement strategies have pushed migrant crossings into perilous areas. Budd reveals personal experiences of internal conflict, racism, and harassment within the agency. The conversation also touches on the militarization of the border, vigilante violence, and the chilling impact of surveillance on civil liberties.

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Oct 16, 2025 • 46min
CZM Rewind: Title 42, Pt 3: The Mutual Aid Response
Volunteers transformed a gas station into a donation hub overnight, showcasing an unprecedented local response after Title 42. They shared emotional experiences while aiding migrants, revealing the tangible impacts of small acts of kindness. Social media played a vital role in mobilizing support, highlighting community solidarity. Confrontations with anti-migrant activists added tension, while personal stories of migration fueled the drive for mutual aid. The dedication to immediate relief and advocacy within a flawed system emphasized grassroots efforts over official channels.

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Oct 15, 2025 • 54min
CZM Rewind: Title 42, Pt 2: Migrant Stories
Diana Rodriguez, an asylum seeker from Colombia, shares her gripping journey to the U.S. She recounts an arduous eight-day odyssey filled with danger and extortion. Diana vividly describes the inhumane detention conditions at the border, highlighting the fear migrants face around Title 42's end. She calls for empathy amid xenophobia and reveals the resilience of those facing trauma and uncertainty. Her personal story illustrates the hope of asylum seekers yearning for a safe future, despite the overwhelming challenges they encounter.

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Oct 14, 2025 • 34min
CZM Rewind: Title 42: How a Public Health Law Kills Refugees
Gustavo Solis, a border investigative reporter with KPBS, dives deep into Title 42's impact on immigration policy. He explains how this public health law was misused by the Trump administration to expel migrants during the pandemic. Listeners learn about the harsh realities faced by expelled refugees—including lost belongings and increased dangers. Solis also critiques the flawed design of the CBP-1 app that favors wealthier migrants and shares insights on why the scientific rationale for Title 42 lacked credibility.

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Oct 13, 2025 • 51min
CZM Rewind: Indigenous Peoples Day
Daliyah Killsback, a Northern Cheyenne tribal member and expert in federal Indian policy, dives deep into the troubling history of U.S. federal Indian policies. She explains the importance of Indigenous Peoples Day and the doctrine of discovery's legal implications. Daliyah also discusses the Removal Period, the impact of the Dawes Act, and today’s self-determination era. The conversation pivots to the Land Back movement, emphasizing its significance and how non-Indigenous people can support tribal rights. A must-listen for understanding Indigenous struggles today!

Oct 12, 2025 • 31min
CZM Book Club: Hollywood Werewolf Conspiracy, by Hailey Piper
Dive into a thrilling tale of werewolves and trauma as listeners witness Selena's frantic attempts to forge a silver shiv to combat a werewolf attack. Experience the raw emotions when she witnesses her boyfriend's transformation, leading to desperate actions. As the story unfolds, explore the complexities of polyamory and the haunting cycle of trauma. Margaret highlights the thought-provoking mix of Hollywood lore with genuine folklore, ultimately showcasing the power of choice in storytelling.

Oct 11, 2025 • 3h 5min
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Raven, an independent journalist known for her coverage of ICE activities, shares her harrowing experiences documenting protests and on-the-ground raids in Chicago. She discusses recent ethnic cleansing patterns against Latinos and the challenges faced by local communities. Dr. Kavehota, a physician and host of House of Pod, offers insights into hepatitis B vaccination, debunks anti-vaccine misinformation, and emphasizes the importance of public health engagement. Together, they highlight the intertwining issues of immigration and health in today's political climate.

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Oct 10, 2025 • 1h 3min
Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #37
The hosts dive into the controversial deployment of the National Guard to Oregon and Illinois, highlighting tensions around the ICE shooting incident in Chicago. They analyze Kristi Noem's claims about Antifa threats and the federal reaction to protests. Discussions include legal blockades against troop deployments and critiques of Trump's insurrection rhetoric. The episode also addresses new tariffs on lumber and pharmaceuticals, exploring their implications for trade and public welfare. Engaging anecdotes and legal insights further enrich the conversation.


