

The Dissidents
The Dissidents
Welcome to the Dissidents podcast from the Institute for Liberal Values (formerly the Counterweight Podcast), where we talk about how we can strive for a world in which freedom and reason are at the forefront of all human society.
Episodes
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Mar 26, 2024 • 1h 2min
The Legacies of Black Pioneers: Daniel Brown
Welcome to our the new monthly series of the Dissidents Podcast on the legacies of black pioneers, brought to you by the Black Institute of Liberal Values (a joint project of Free Black Thought and the Institute for Liberal Values). In this episode, Winkfield Twyman, Jr & Jennifer Richmond, speak with Mark Brown on his common cousin with Wink, Daniel Brown. According to Wink, who writes of Daniel often in his book with Jen, Letters in Black and White, Daniel was a “founding father” for his family.
Mark, Wink and Jen talk about the relevance of genealogy for seeing each other as “Old Americans”, the role of faith in this mission, the possibility of “Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome”, and the curative effects of narrative therapy and writing for coming together across the color line.
Follow us on Circle for more resources and materials on black pioneers in American history.
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Podcast Resources:
Letters in Black and White: A New Correspondence on Race in America, Jennifer Richmond & Winkfield Twyman, Jr.
Find out more about the book on Truth in Between
The Dead Hand of Daniel Brown, Jennifer Richmond & Winkfield Twyman, Jr.
On the Road to Oak Lawn, Winkfield Twyman, Jr.
Greatness as Character, Winkfield Twyman, Jr.
A Race Story, Winkfield Twyman, Jr.
Find other resources, including Wink’s Pioneering Black Lawyers, on the Black Institute for Liberal Values on Circle.
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Mar 22, 2024 • 1h 30min
S4 E9 | Self-Righteous Foolishness? A Look at Moral Protests
In this week's episode, Mike and Elizabeth discuss an article that outlines some of the reasons we might choose to quietly or more openly protest wrongdoing within our organizations. It often seems futile to stay in a partially corrupt institution, even in an attempt to influence reform, but is it really preferable to resign in protest when the move is unlikely to have an impact? Can we recognize our own motivations for protest, or are we hopelessly biased in that assessment? We discuss these ideas in the context of contemporary culture and events, including criticism of college campus leaders.
Podcast notes:
Hill Jr, T. E. (1979). Symbolic protest and calculated silence. Philosophy and Public Affairs, 9, 83–102.

Mar 15, 2024 • 1h 4min
S4 E8 | She's Got the Look: Perspectives on Sexism and Career Motivation
In this week's episode Mike and Elizabeth discuss a recent journal article about reminders of bias. The authors found that women who read about sexism tended to report lower achievement expectations and career motivation. Our perspectives and interpretations diverge somewhat from that of the authors. We evaluate the study design, findings, and implications through the lens of cancel culture, and consider what a similar study on reminders of racism might reveal.
Podcast Notes:
Doolaard, F. T., Lelieveld, G., Noordewier, M. K., Beest, I., & Dijk, E. (2022). How information on sexism may increase women’s perceptions of being excluded, threaten fundamental needs, and lower career motivation. European Journal of Social Psychology, 52, 405-419.

Feb 28, 2024 • 1h 18min
The Legacies of Black Pioneers: Lemuel Haynes
Welcome to our the first episode of our monthly series of the Dissidents Podcast on the legacies of black pioneers, brought to you by the Black Institute of Liberal Values (a joint project of Free Black Thought and the Institute for Liberal Values). In this inaugural episode, Winkfield Twyman, Jr & Jennifer Richmond, speak with Bill Paine and Tom Miller, two descendants of the first ordained black minister, Lemuel Haynes. Jen & Wink talk about what it means for people to come together across the color line in celebration of pioneering ancestors and in community as “Old Americans”.
Lemuel Haynes Resources:
Sketches of the Life and Character of the Rev. Lemuel Haynes, for Many Years Pastor of a Church in Rutland, and Late in Granville, New York. Timothy Mather Cooley. Publisher: John S. Taylor, NY. 1839
Black Puritan, Black Republican The Life and Thought of Lemuel Haynes, 1753-1833. John Saillant. Oxford University Press, 2003
Lemuel Haynes, a bio-bibliography. Richard Newman. Lambeth, Press, NY. 1984
Black preacher to white America : the collected writings of Lemuel Haynes, 1774-1833 / edited by Richard Newman; introduction by Helen MacLam ; preface by Mechal Sobel.
Haynes, Lemuel, 1753-1833.
Brooklyn, N.Y. : Carlson Pub., 1989
Liberty Further Extended-https://www.jstor.org/stable/1919529
John Saillant SEA Scholar of the Month June, 2023 https://www.societyofearlyamericanists.org/whats-new-announcements/sea-scholar-of-the-month-june-2023-john-saillant
https://www.jstor.org/stable/365942 "Not Only
Extreme Poverty, but the Worst Kind of Orphanage": Lemuel Haynes and the Boundaries of Racial Tolerance on the Yankee Frontier, 1770-1820 Author(s): Richard D. Brown Source: The New England Quarterly , Dec., 1988, Vol. 61, No. 4 (Dec., 1988), pp. 502-518 Published by: The New England Quarterly, Inc.
https://we-ha.com/memorial-to-lemuel-haynes-dedicated-in-west-hartford/
https://granbydrummer.com/2020/08/lemuel-haynes-an-eloquent-man-of-god/
https://granbydrummer.com/2020/09/lemuel-haynes-an-eloquent-man-of-god-2/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AaYsRYojDc *The Lemuel Haynes part starts at 32:28
And
another small segment from West Rutland a couple years ago
https://vermonthistory.org/lemuel-haynes
https://jwhamil.com/Hamil/Family.htm (Family website)
Other related resources:
Discovering Black Vermont, African American Farmers in Hinesburgh, 1790-1890. Elise A. Guyette. Vermont Historical Society. 2020
The Little Professor of Piney Woods, The Story of Professor Laurence Jones. Beth Day. Julian Messner, Inc. NY. 1956
Benjamin Banneker
and Us, Eleven Generations of an American Family. Rachel Jamison
Webster. Henry Holt and Company. NY. 2023
Vermont African
American Heritage Trail: https://www.vermontvacation.com/~/media/files/pdfs/itineraries/vermont-african-american-heritage-trail-2015.ashx?la=en

Feb 23, 2024 • 1h 3min
S4 E7 | Irreconcilable Differences: The Unethical Nature of Illiberalism
This week, Mike and Elizabeth ask whether illiberalism is unethical (spoiler alert: we think so) A couple of brave psychologists recently suggested the same when they advocated for adding the protection and defense of free speech to the American Psychological Association's ethics codes. We find their premise regarding illiberalism sound, even if their arguments are somewhat weak, and make strong arguments of our own that illiberal behaviors are difficult to reconcile with ethical standards.
Podcast notes:
O’Donohue, W., & Fisher, J. E. (2022). Are illiberal acts unethical? APA’s Ethics Code and the protection of free speech. American Psychologist, 77(8), 875–886.

Feb 16, 2024 • 1h 11min
S4 E6 | Keeping Up Appearances: Ethics and Neutrality in the Everyday Life of a Librarian
In this week's episode Mike and Elizabeth talk about personal and institutional neutrality with academic librarian Pam Hayes-Bohanan. While many of us think about free speech and academic freedom in the abstract, they are concrete and routine considerations for libraries and librarians. Institutions release statements and professional organizations issue ethical guidelines, but no one knows better than librarians the often conflicting impracticalities these can pose. We discuss the challenges of book bans, collection policies, socio-political culture, and what they mean for community and academic libraries and staff.
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Feb 9, 2024 • 1h 18min
S4 E5 | Feelings are Facts: Adding Emotional Appeal to Reason-Based Argument
In this week's episode we challenge liberal communicators to make better use of emotional language and imagery to boost their logical arguments. Mike refers to philosophical and historical references to the conflict between reason and sentimentality. Elizabeth describes what research in psychology has to say about the the important contributions of the brain's emotional system to everyday functioning. Reason and emotion are not in conflict; they work in concert.
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Feb 2, 2024 • 1h 29min
S4 E4 | Competitive Suffering: Collective Victimhood and Antisemitic Attitudes
This week's focus is on research suggesting a link between anti-semitism and a culture of competitive victimhood. Elizabeth and Mike briefly describe research designed to test the hypothesis that the Holocaust serves as a standard for comparing victim status. We consider how the research might help us understand outgroup bias, including anti-semetism, and seemingly inexplicable endorsements of terroristic activities past and present.
Podcast Notes:
Antoniou, G., Dinas, E., & Kosmidis, S. (2020). Collective victimhood and social prejudice: A post‐Holocaust theory of Anti‐Semitism. Political Psychology, 41(5), 861–886.

Jan 26, 2024 • 3h 9min
S4 E3 | Diversity Drill: Analysis of a Workplace Training Program
n this week's episode, Mike and Elizabeth discuss diversity training, specifically an "Anti-Racist Fight Club" pamphlet, forwarded to us anonymously. We go through the materials, click on embedded links, and fact check where appropriate. This is a long episode, but it could have easily been longer still. For example, we focused on aspects presented as objective information, but did not linger over portions that were clearly presented as the author's opinion. We hope this episode may be helpful to listeners who are facing their own workplace DEI seminars.
Podcast Notes
Watch Coleman Hughes Colorblindness Ted Talk:
https://www.ted.com/talks/coleman_hughes_a_case_for_color_blindness
Watch Doyin Richards Tedx Talk:
https://www.ted.com/talks/doyin_richards_racism_from_the_perspective_of_a_non_threatening_black_man
Listen to Our Podcast with Wilfred Reily:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-017-talking-taboo-data-racism-wilfred-reilly/id1537516628?i=1000622605770
Listen to Glenn Lowery and John McWhorter talk about Ibram X Kendi:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/john-mcwhorter-dan-subotnik-the-ibram-x-kendi-scandal/id505824976?i=1000630478139
See Barack Obama reconnect with the boy (now a young adult) who wanted to touch the former president's hair:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/05/27/obama-hair-like-mine-photo-kid-orig-kj.cnn

Jan 19, 2024 • 1h 24min
S4 E2 | The Tide is High: Little Evidence of Ebbing DEI Impacts
Recent editorial headlines and social media posts suggest the resignation of Harvard's president, combined with shifting public sentiment, are signals that DEI initiatives are losing their grip on education and government. In this week's episode, Mike and Elizabeth discuss why a few small cracks in the DEI facade are unlikely to turn the tide. We are very skeptical that the overall strength and vastness of DEI influences have been diminished and see more evidence of continued vulnerability to a belief system that is baked into the consciousness of so many. Policies, procedures, and commitments have been made that will require institutional compliance with DEI initiatives for many years to come, and DEI administrators, true believers or not, are unlikely to abandon their posts. Mike wonders if shifts in public sentiment will further fuel the skepticism and distrust already reflected in public sentiments about elite institutions.
Podcast Notes:
Our podcast with Helen Pluckrose and Rio Veradonir:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-033-slippery-slopes-helen-pluckrose-rio-veradonir/id1537516628?i=1000638524042
From the Chronicle of Higher Education:
https://www.chronicle.com/article/a-decade-of-ideological-transformation-comes-undone?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=campaign_8675282_nl_Academe-Today_date_20240103&cid=at&source=&sourceid=&sra=true
Lee Jussim's Substack
https://unsafescience.substack.com/p/2023-academic-self-delegitimization
https://unsafescience.substack.com/p/victory-lap
From the Atlantic:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/dei-training-initiatives-consultants-companies-skepticism/674237/
From the Boston Globe:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/01/04/opinion/dei-college-woke-universities-harvard/
An example of long term commitments to DEI:
https://www.michigandaily.com/news/umich-to-invest-79m-toward-hiring-30-professors-as-part-of-dei-program-with-nih/


