

Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets
Michael Sidgmore
Alt Goes Mainstream podcast is the place to turn to for interviews with some of the brightest and most experienced minds in the world at the intersection private markets and wealth management. AGM dives into investment strategies like private equity (PE), private credit, venture capital (VC), secondaries, GP stakes, infrastructure, real estate, wealth management, and comprehensively covers tools and frameworks for approaching private markets, such as asset allocation, evergreen funds, model portfolios, and more. For anyone looking to invest into private markets (from experienced wealth managers to family offices to the individual investor looking for a more diversified investment portfolio), you’ll hear inside stories from executives and founders at some of the world’s largest financial institutions, alternative asset managers firms, and wealth management firms. More than a personal finance podcast, Alt Goes Mainstream dives deep into trends, investment strategies, firm building lessons, and innovative technologies that are enabling investors to access private markets.
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Jan 18, 2024 • 56min
Stride VC's Fred Destin on how to build trust in a competitive, chaotic world
Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.On today’s show, we welcome a long-time VC investor who brings the perspective from both sides of the pond. Fred Destin, the founder of Stride VC, a seed fund operating out of London and currently investing out of its second £123M fund, shares his views on the venture capital industry.Prior to Stride, Fred was a General Partner at Accel and Accomplice (fka Atlas Venture). He’s invested in some of venture’s big winners, including Deliveroo, Pillpack, Cazoo, Zoopla, Secret Escapes, Integral Ad Science, and more, generating over $1.4B in value to investors and a blended multiple in excess of 7x. Fred has been featured on the Forbes European Midas List a number of times. Fred and I had a fascinating conversation about the hows and the whys of early-stage venture. We discussed:How VCs can navigate the difference between decision points and discovery zones.Why a positive bias towards people can be a driver of returns in venture.Why venture capital is often a poor experience for founders.Why trust, truth, and empathy make for a strong and enduring founder relationship.Why Fred thinks that the most product of a venture capital organization is decisions.Why. and how simplicity can be core to company-building.How to evaluate risk versus reward at early-stage.How younger investors can hone their craft.The future of early-stage venture.Thanks Fred for coming on the podcast to share your wisdom on early-stage investing.

Jan 10, 2024 • 52min
Master of micro VC, Chris Douvos of Ahoy Capital, on why there's always room for a Bugatti in a market full of Fords and Toyotas
Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.On today’s show, we welcome a veteran of venture, a champion of portfolio concentration, a master of micro VC. Chris Douvos has taken a mosaic of experiences as an allocator at both endowments and funds that worked on behalf of institutional investors to found Ahoy Capital in 2018, an intentionally right-sized firm focused on working with smaller, emerging VC managers. A pioneering investor in the micro VC movement, Chris has been a mainstay in venture capital for decades. At Ahoy, he discovers and partners with smaller VC funds to help drive returns for his LPs, being seen as a “bird dog in the Valley” for many institutional investors who lack the access, network, and knowledge of the early-stage venture landscape to Chris’s degree.Chris has been embedded in the venture world for years, dating back to the early 2000s. Prior to Ahoy Capital, Chris spearheaded investment efforts at Venture Investment Associates and The Investment Fund for Foundations. He initially learned the craft of private markets investing at Princeton’s University endowment, although he earned his BA and MBA from Yale.Chris and I had such a fun discussion about venture and the emerging VC landscape. We discussed:How the business of venture has changed.Why there’s always room for a Bugatti when the market has a lot of Fords and Toyotas.What he learned from Doug Leone at Sequoia in his early days as an allocator at Princeton and how it’s informed how he invests today.Why it’s tough to be a midsized fund in today’s venture market.Why he believes that concentration is key as a LP – and that diversification can lead to “diworseification.”Why he believes smaller fund sizes can lead to outperformance.Thanks Chris for coming on the podcast to share your wisdom and lessons learned from decades in venture.

Jan 10, 2024 • 23min
Monthly Alts Pulse Ep. 6: Taking the pulse of private markets with Lawrence Calcano, Chairman & CEO of iCapital
Welcome to the 6th episode of a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream.Here’s the latest episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a live conversation in studio with Lawrence Calcano, the Chairman & CEO of iCapital, who as the leader of a platform that is responsible for the majority of individual and advisor-led investment flows into the alts space, has his finger on the pulse of what’s happening in private markets.On this episode, Lawrence and I had a fun and lively discussion. We covered:Will private equity save the day?Why the “educated consumer is the best customer.”Is liquidity the threshold issue of getting more investors to participate in private markets?How 80% of the flows into alts from the wealth channel are currently driven by 20% of the advisor population … and how the next wave of advisors can understand and allocate to alts.How the industry moves from education on alts to education of how alts fit into broader portfolio construction strategies.How do we go from “talk to action” in the allocation of alts.What’s the interplay of technology innovation and product innovation in alts?What is the “technology chassis” for alts?What’s the missing piece from a technology perspective to take alts to the next level?What’s the role that tokenization can play in helping alts go mainstream?Does private markets have its connective tissue?The current status of Michael’s Monthly Bracelet Pulse, featuring Eintracht Frankfurt and Angel City FC bracelets.Thanks Lawrence for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s conversation!

Dec 4, 2023 • 21min
Monthly Alts Pulse Ep. 5: Taking the pulse of private markets with Lawrence Calcano, Chairman & CEO of iCapital
Welcome to the 5th episode of a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream.Here’s the latest episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a live conversation in studio with Lawrence Calcano, the Chairman & CEO of iCapital, who as the leader of a platform that is responsible for the majority of individual and advisor-led investment flows into the alts space, has his finger on the pulse of what’s happening in private markets.On this episode, Lawrence and I had a fun and lively discussion. We covered:How interest in alts is growing around the world.What Lawrence learned on his trips to Europe, LatAm, and Asia meeting with advisors, private banks, and GPs across those respective regions.Why each region has its own unique challenges, in large part due to different regulatory structures and wealth management market structures.How to build a global alts business while simultaneously tailoring the culture and client experience to specific client demands.Why global, brand name fund managers may resonate in different parts of the world.Why advisors are very focused on products right now that have a “modicum of liquidity.”Stories and anecdotes from Lawrence’s conversations at an event they hosted with over 200 advisors in LatAm through iCapital’s partnership with Unicorn Strategic Partners.Why being on the ground to understand different cultures and ecosystems is so important to learning and building the right organic feedback loops to structure solutions in private markets.Thanks Lawrence for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s conversation!

Nov 22, 2023 • 60min
How Shannon Saccocia, the CIO of $67B AUM Neuberger Berman Private Wealth, thinks about the changing role of alternatives in client portfolios
Shannon Saccocia, CIO of Neuberger Berman Private Wealth, discusses the evolving landscape of private markets. Topics include the definition of alts, changing nature of asset allocation, evolution of fees, importance of geopolitics, secondaries as onramp, fiduciary role, challenges of productization, engaging with the changing wealth channel, forward thinking in allocating alternatives, changing role of exits, exploring unique alternative investments.

Nov 9, 2023 • 44min
How private equity and the NIL are changing the game for sports with UCLA QB and NIL National Male Athlete of the Year, Chase Griffin
Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s show dives into the collision of culture, sports, and finance. We talk with Chase Griffin, a student-athlete and QB at UCLA, who has become a pioneer in the college athletics Name Image Likeness (NIL) movement and is the 2x winner of the NIL Male Athlete of the Year awards from the NIL Summit and Opendorse.Chase has excelled on and off the field, so he’s no stranger to success. In high school, he was the Texas Gatorade Player of the Year, and he turned down Ivy League offers to commit to UCLA. At UCLA, he’s played behind NFL draft pick Dorian Thompson-Robinson and put up strong performances on the field. Off the field, he’s been a leader in the NIL movement and an exemplary scholar-athlete, to the point where his coach at UCLA, Chip Kelly, has said, “if you could buy stock in a human, buy stock in Chase Griffin.”Chase has deftly navigated the rapidly changing landscape of the NIL to secure over 30 NIL brand deals and launched the community / charity giving platform #NILforGood. He recently joined Range Media Partners as Athlete/Creator in Residence and contributes to Range business operations across Sports, NIL, Film, TV, Music, and Social Impact.Chase and I had a fascinating discussion about how the NIL could change college sports as we know it and how it will coincide with more investment into college athletics. At a time when private equity firms are investing into companies that are part of the developing NIL ecosystem and possibly even investing into collegiate athletics conferences, Chase shares his views on the impact that the NIL and financialization of sports has on athletes, colleges, pro sports, and broader student bodies.Congrats on all the accomplishments in your young career thus far, Chase. Thanks for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your experiences and wisdom on the NIL.

Oct 31, 2023 • 48min
Jamie Rhode, Principal at family office Verdis Investment Management, on how to drive the most meaningful returns in early-stage venture as a LP
Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.On today’s show, we bring the institutional family office perspective to private markets. We talk with Jamie Rhode, a Principal at Verdis Investment Management. Verdis is a single family office based in Philadelphia that was built on the rich legacy of the family, a major business family, that has spanned over three centuries.At Verdis, Jamie is focused on venture capital, private equity, and hedge fund investment sourcing and due diligence. She joined Verdis from Bloomberg, where she held roles in both equity research and credit analysis. Verdis is an active investor in the venture capital ecosystem, leveraging a data-driven investment approach that Jamie spearheads to allocate to mainly smaller and emerging managers. They’ve taken a very thoughtful approach to asset allocation, particularly venture, and have had a number of valuable insights on asset allocation come out of that process.Jamie and I had a fascinating discussion about the allocator’s perspective on venture capital and smaller fund managers.We discussed:Why Jamie believes that 90% of investment returns come from asset allocation strategy.Why smaller funds often drive the best returns.Why illiquidity and duration are so critical to producing outsized returns, with Verdis finding that the last 20% of the hold period of a fund producing 46% of the returns.Why Verdis believes in the strength of the YC network.The perfect fund size and portfolio construction.Why former operators may not make the best fund managers in Jamie’s view.Thanks Jamie for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your wisdom and data-driven perspectives.

Oct 25, 2023 • 51min
Taking the pulse of seed investing and creating an actively managed index of early-stage innovation with Maelle Gavet, CEO of Techstars, one of the world’s largest pre-seed investors
Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today we bring on one of the world’s largest pre-seed investors to cover what the state of early-stage investing looks like.We welcome Maelle Gavet, the CEO of Techstars, a leading accelerator and global investment business that works with early-stage startups. Maelle has taken a background where she’s been a CEO, COO and operator at the likes of Priceline and Compass to run Techstars as they continue to transform their business. Techstars has invested in over 3,700 early-stage startups that have collectively achieved over $98B in all-time accelerator portfolio market capitalization.With a global reach and an early-stage perspective across ecosystems and sectors, Maelle was in a great position to share views on: Why being relentless makes a great founder.Why, even despite more seed funds than ever, there’s still been an increase in applications to Techstars by over 2.5x.Why Techstars can be seen as the ultimate fund-of-funds in her view.Why an actively managed index of early-stage innovation can make sense for many allocators.Thanks Maelle for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your wisdom and perspectives on early-stage investing.

Oct 11, 2023 • 1h 7min
Why now is Europe's time according to Joe Schorge, Co-Founder & Managing Partner of Isomer Capital, one of Europe's most active VC fund-of-funds
Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today, we travel to London to talk with someone who has seen the evolution of the European tech ecosystem up close.We discuss the rise of Europe with Isomer Capital’s Co-Founder and Managing Partner Joe Schorge. Isomer is a pan-European fund-of-funds, co-investment, and secondaries platform that is on its way to €1B AUM. They’ve invested in 70 VC funds, including the likes of Seedcamp, Hoxton Ventures, Atlantic Labs, and leading European companies like Sorare, Refurbed, Zenjob, and more.Joe has a fascinating perspective on European’s tech ecosystem on a number of dimensions. He’s an American who moved to Europe in the late 1990s to work in tech before moving to the allocator and investor side. He worked as an investment consultant at Cambridge Associates, where he advised institutional investors in Europe and MENA on strategy, planning, and implementation that amounted to over $2B of capital across 75 transactions in private markets. He was then a Managing Director at Pomona Capital in Europe, where he focused on secondaries, fund investing, and co-investments, which paved the way for him to found Isomer as one of the early institutional pan-European fund-of-funds based in Europe.Joe and I had a rich conversation about the past, present, and future of the European tech ecosystem. We discussed:Why Europe is a great place to invest right now.Perspectives on how to build a tech ecosystem, given Joe’s deep experience and history in Europe.How they uncovered two local funds which invested in one of Europe's biggest tech successes, UiPath.The biggest opportunities in the ecosystem.Why availability of capital is not the issue for the European ecosystem.Why local funds will still win in their respective regions at pre-seed and seed.Why there are different skillsets that both investors and founders need to have to succeed in Europe.What the current market environment means for European venture.Why more institutional investors should be allocating to European venture.Thanks Joe for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your wisdom and experiences about European venture and thanks to the EUVC team, Andreas Munk Holm and David Cruz e Silva, for the intro to Joe, where they together have a fantastic partnership between Isomer and EUVC.

Sep 26, 2023 • 22min
Monthly Alts Pulse, Ep. 4: Taking the pulse of private markets with Lawrence Calcano, Chairman & CEO of iCapital
Welcome to the 4th episode of a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream.Here’s the latest episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a live conversation in studio with Lawrence Calcano, the Chairman & CEO of iCapital, who as the leader of a platform that is responsible for the majority of individual and advisor-led investment flows into the alts space, has his finger on the pulse of what’s happening in private markets.On this episode, Lawrence and I had a fun and lively discussion. We covered:What iCapital is seeing in the market now.How the evolution of wealth management is coinciding with the growth of alts.How the rise of the “super RIA / aggregator” can help accelerate the adoption of alts.How improving equity markets could shorten fundraising cycles for funds.How the needs of the wealth manager has evolved as wealth management platforms have evolved.Why the need for high-quality — and uniform — infrastructure and end-to-end automation is so critical to enable wealth advisors to properly participate in private markets.How iCapital is endeavoring to build the operating system for private markets through automation.Where infrastructure innovation in private markets goes from here. How and why alts will become a core part of an investors’ portfolio.How the evolution of various market structures — equities, fixed income, and products like ETFs and mutual funds — provides lessons learned for the evolution of alts market structure.Thanks Lawrence for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s conversation!


