

Avoiding Babylon
Avoiding Babylon Crew
Avoiding Babylon was started during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic. During these difficult and dark days, when most of us were isolated from family, friends, our parishes, and even the Sacraments themselves, this channel was started as a statement of standing against the tyrannical mandates that many of us were living under. Since those early days, this channel has morphed into an amazing community of friends…no…more than friends…Christian brothers and sisters…who have grown in joy and charity. As we see it, our job here at Avoiding Babylon is to remind ourselves and those who enjoy the channel that being Catholic is a joyful and exciting experience. We seek true Catholic fraternity and eutrapelia with other Catholics who, like us, are doing their best to live out their vocation with the help of God’s Grace. Above all, we try to bring humor and joy to the craziness of this fallen world, for as Hillaire Belloc has famously said:“Wherever the Catholic sun doth shine,There’s always laughter and good red wine.At least I’ve always found it so.Benedicamus Domino!”
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Mar 25, 2026 • 44min
Protestants Team Up with Kosher Catholics to Attack Scott Hahn
Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!A husband posts that his wife “was formerly promiscuous” and he “was a virgin,” and somehow we’re all expected to nod along like it’s spiritual content. That moment opens a bigger problem we can’t ignore: testimony culture is starting to look like confession-as-branding, where past sin becomes a credential and conversion becomes a content strategy.We dig into what this does to the moral imagination, especially for younger Christians who grew up trying to live faithfully. When dramatic stories get rewarded, it quietly teaches that holiness is boring and that wreckage is a prerequisite for meaning. We talk about repentance versus performance, the temptation toward antinomian thinking, and why public scandal isn’t erased by a quick “sorry” when real harm was done.Then we pivot to the political-theology fight blowing up online: Catholic integralism, natural law, religious liberty, and why figures like Scott Hahn are suddenly getting name-dropped as threats on mainstream shows. We react to the Eric Metaxas clip with James Lindsay and John Zmirak, clarify what integralism actually claims about the relationship between temporal power and spiritual authority, and challenge the “we don’t impose morality” line that collapses the moment you remember that every law encodes a moral vision.We also connect the dots to the convert boom narrative, Zionism pressure, Gaza framing, and the way “anti-Semitism” gets used as a debate-ending weapon. We read and respond to public statements in the Carrie Prejean Boller controversy and Bishop Robert Barron’s response, emphasizing the need to condemn real racism while refusing to treat all criticism of Israel, Judaism, or public behavior as hatred. If you want clearer categories, sharper definitions, and less propaganda in Christian discourse, this one is for you. Subscribe, share the show, and leave a review, then tell us what you think: where should Christians draw the line in public speech?Support the showNeed seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company.Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order!********************************************************Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1https://www.avoidingbabylon.comMerchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.comLocals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.comFull Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribeRSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Mar 20, 2026 • 1h 26min
The State of Tradistan w/ Catholic Esquire
Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!One bad Mass can haunt you for years. So can one truly reverent one that finally makes the Catholic faith click.We sit down with Catholic Esquire to trace the path a lot of serious Catholics have quietly taken: from lukewarm Novus Ordo parish life, to apologetics and “doing all the programs,” to the shock of realizing how much the liturgy forms what we believe about sin, sacrifice, and the Eucharist. We talk about the Traditional Latin Mass not as nostalgia, but as a place where the prayers and posture teach the faith with force and clarity.COVID comes up as the accelerant. When parishes shut down Mass and delayed sacraments, many people stopped trusting the idea that everything was fine and started seeking a community that would protect a sacramental life. From drive-through confessions to Communion policies that felt irreverent, we unpack why 2020 pushed people “full trad” and why even defenders of the status quo still end up parish-shopping for reverence.Then we go big: Vatican II, religious liberty, ecumenism, and the social kingship of Christ. We explore why these debates connect to the current Catholic crisis, why sedevacantism arguments keep growing, why the SSPX question won’t go away, and how online “trad wars” can destroy charity if we let them. If you’re trying to raise a family, keep the faith, and think clearly about authority, this conversation is for you.Subscribe for more conversations like this, share it with a friend who’s wrestling with the same questions, and leave a review with the biggest point you disagreed with.Support the showNeed seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company.Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order!********************************************************Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1https://www.avoidingbabylon.comMerchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.comLocals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.comFull Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribeRSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Mar 18, 2026 • 1h 58min
Christians at War Over Israel | Full Discussion with Sam Shamoun
Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!Christian Zionism sounds “Bible based” until you actually follow the Bible’s own rules for reading the Bible. We start with the claim that many Christians were taught: God still has a separate covenant with Israel, modern return to the land fulfills prophecy, and end times can’t happen without it. Then we put that claim under the light of the New Testament and the result is uncomfortable but clarifying: Christ is the fulfillment of the law and prophets, not a footnote to them.We walk through the covenant story in detail, from the split of the northern kingdom and the lost tribes to Paul’s argument in Romans 9–11 about God’s promises and the ingrafting of the nations. From there we dig into one of the most fascinating “hidden in plain sight” connections in Scripture: Hosea 2’s betrothal promise, 2 Kings 17’s five nations, and Jesus at the well in John 4. The point isn’t trivia. It’s a blueprint for how fulfillment works in Christ, right now, through the New Covenant.We also open Isaiah 42 and Isaiah 49 to show the Servant as a light to the Gentiles, given as a covenant, with the coastlands waiting for his Torah, not a continued reliance on Mosaic categories as the final word. Along the way we challenge the fixation on earthly Jerusalem using Galatians 4 and Revelation’s stark language, then land the plane in Matthew’s vineyard parable and Jesus’ warnings about covenant judgment. Whether you’re Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant, if you care about biblical theology, Israel and the Church, end times claims, and how to interpret prophecy without forcing modern politics into the text, you’ll get a lot out of this conversation.If this helped you rethink a long held assumption, subscribe, share it with a friend who’s confident about “Israel prophecy,” and leave a review with the verse you think matters most.Support the showNeed seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company.Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order!********************************************************Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1https://www.avoidingbabylon.comMerchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.comLocals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.comFull Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribeRSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Mar 13, 2026 • 1h 6min
The World Is Waking Up to Jesus — Here's Why
Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!Something feels different lately, and we can’t be the only ones noticing it. When Joe Rogan starts talking about church, praising the teachings of Jesus, and asking out loud “who was Jesus Christ?”, that’s not just another trending clip. It’s a signal that the old certainty of the new atheist era is cracking, and millions of people are suddenly willing to take Christianity seriously again.We play and react to the Rogan clips, including the Dead Sea Scrolls and Isaiah angle, and we talk about why seekers often start with “I like Jesus’ morals” before they can say “I believe.” We connect that to Tolkien and C S Lewis on myth, to the idea that every culture carries echoes of the Gospel, and to why a post-Christian society never stays neutral. If you don’t worship the true God, you will worship something else, and the substitutes showing up in mainstream culture are getting darker and weirder by the day.But there’s a tension here: is this a path toward real conversion, or a sanitized public version of Christianity that avoids the hard claims, the hard teachings, and the hard questions? We also get into Catholic media dynamics, the Daily Wire conversation, and what happens when Catholicism gets translated for a mass political audience.On the practical side, we rally our community around two concrete wins: supporting Enoch’s album fundraiser and backing Samuel’s new Matins lectionary (pre-1955 readings from the traditional Roman Breviary) so serious prayer is more accessible in one durable hardcover. If you enjoyed the conversation, subscribe, share this with a friend who’s been feeling that cultural shift, and leave a review so more people can find us.Support the showNeed seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company.Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order!********************************************************Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1https://www.avoidingbabylon.comMerchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.comLocals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.comFull Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribeRSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Mar 11, 2026 • 1h 2min
Has the Fourth Turning Arrived? AI, Collapse & What Comes Next
Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!A strange AI intro sets the tone for a conversation about power, myth, and the cracks running through our civilization. We start with Tucker’s claim that some believers try to force God’s hand, and that secular boosters dream of a tech-ruled future. From there we pull the lens wider: the Bretton Woods order is threadbare, NATO expectations are stale, and a managerial class that once kept the peace now leans on slogans no one believes. Whether you see him as a disruptor or a danger, Trump becomes a prism for realism—treating Europe’s security habits, Ukraine’s symbolism, and great-power hedging as signs the old narrative no longer binds.Then we enter the thicket of AI. Not sci-fi hype, but concrete pressures: law firms cutting junior roles, back-office “email jobs” vanishing, and a narrow set of labs racing for an advantage that could snowball. We weigh the fear of a winner-take-all “singleton” against the possibility of AI fragility, closed-loop error, and a financial bubble built on scarce chips and shaky energy. Either way, the labor shock seems real, and the blow will land hardest on Gen Z and Gen Alpha. That lands us in the heart of the meaning crisis: social media frays trust, the dating market corrodes goodwill, and the institutions that once turned information into wisdom—churches, schools, civic bodies—feel absent when we need them most.We don’t retreat into mysticism or denial. Instead, we argue for recovering thick stories and practices that hold under stress: moral limits, local bonds, real sacrifice, and the courage to say no when power dresses up as destiny. We also warn about importing religious wars we barely understand; others see sacred stakes even when we insist it’s just policy. If this is the end of a world, not the world, then our task is to stand upright in truth, steward what’s still good, and build the scaffolding for what comes next.If this resonates, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a review—your support helps more curious listeners find these conversations.Support the showNeed seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company.Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order!********************************************************Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1https://www.avoidingbabylon.comMerchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.comLocals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.comFull Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribeRSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Mar 9, 2026 • 1h 16min
Mike Pantile Tells His Side of the Clash with Catholic Inc
Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!Headlines, threats, and a thumbnail dust-up cracked open a bigger story: who decides what Catholics are allowed to hear? We walk through a sponsor-driven cancellation, the temptation to water down truth for access, and why the better answer is to build a new, open ecosystem where courage—not clout—sets the tone.We get specific about the “woman question,” patriarchy, and the way language like “mutual submission” often blurs real responsibility. For us, patriarchy means sacrificial fatherhood ordered to salvation: a husband guards the perimeter so his wife and children can live in peace. When men lead in prayer, penance, and practice—Mass, confession, daily order—wives feel unburdened and homes become small churches. We draw on Scripture, the Fathers, and a Marian model of docility and humility to show why this isn’t a culture-war bit—it’s perennial Catholicism aimed at sanctity now.Then we flip the conference playbook. Instead of marathon lectures and cocktail hours, we outline a format built for formation: 20–30 minute talks, long blocks of conversation, affordable tickets, and real access for smaller creators. Put it near a major airport, keep costs low, and let substance drive community. Along the way, we connect fortitude in public to the interior life: fasting against gluttony, penance against sloth, and daily prayer that sharpens the will. Beige Catholicism fades when men accept difficult duties and live them with joy.If you’re tired of gatekeeping and hungry for clarity, this one’s for you. Listen, share your city suggestions for our launch, and tell us what would make a conference worth your time. Subscribe, leave a review, and send this to a friend who’s ready to build something braver.Support the showNeed seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company.Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order!********************************************************Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1https://www.avoidingbabylon.comMerchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.comLocals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.comFull Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribeRSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Mar 9, 2026 • 2h 55min
LIVE: Joshua Charles & Anthony Take YOUR Toughest Questions
Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!If you could summarize the end times in three words, here’s our pick: Restrain. Release. Return. We open Scripture with the Fathers and track Revelation 20 as a map of history—Satan bound so the nations can be evangelized, the saints reigning as the apostolic Church governs, and a brief release that surrounds the camp of the saints before the Lord returns. That lens turns the chaos of our moment into something legible. The fall of paganism once silenced oracles and broke magic; the reverse image explains why occultism resurges, sanctuaries close, and temporal power shrugs at anything higher than itself.We connect the dragon’s binding with Jesus’ “strong man” parable and Paul’s “restrainer” in 2 Thessalonians 2—what the Fathers often saw, in part, as the Roman order transfigured by the Gospel, a Christendom that held the line until it didn’t. From there we take up the hard anchors: the Fathers are unanimous that Antichrist will halt public sacrifice, that he will be received by the Jews as a false messiah, and that the Jews will later convert. On the Temple, the tradition isn’t unanimous—some read “temple of God” as the Church itself, others expect a rebuilt sanctuary—but either path exposes the same deception. Along the way we revisit Athanasius on the oracles going mute, Augustine and Bede on Ticonius’s anti-church growing inside the Church, and why an apostate civilization can be worse than a pagan one.Then the lines get bolder through live caller questions: Is COVID’s global suspension of public worship a rehearsal for the prophesied ban? How should we weigh claims about Trump, a rebuilt Temple, or a “great monarch”? What’s the right way to compare the TLM and the Novus Ordo without dodging reverence? Where does patriotism fit when you feel no pride? And how do men carry real ambition without pride—working hard, staying ready, and letting God choose the moment?If you’re hungry for clarity without hype, this conversation gives you a sturdy frame, a reading list to get started with the Fathers, and practical steps for holiness in confusing times. Subscribe, share this with a friend who’s asking the same questions, and leave a review to help more listeners find the show.Support the showNeed seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company.Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order!********************************************************Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1https://www.avoidingbabylon.comMerchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.comLocals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.comFull Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribeRSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Mar 5, 2026 • 20min
Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 16
Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!What if the greatest danger to your soul isn’t failure but the pride that follows success? We open Jeremiah 17 and the parable of the rich man and Lazarus to trace a stark contrast: dryness for those who trust in themselves and living water for those who root their hope in God. From there, we step into a Carmelite meditation on humility that reframes discouragement, showing how self-reliance quietly breeds despair while confidence in mercy restores peace, joy, and strength.We read the Gospel with fresh eyes: the rich man’s downfall isn’t luxury itself but a heart that overlooks Lazarus at his gate. Abraham’s reply cuts to the core—God has already spoken through Moses and the prophets; the invitation to conversion stands. That same invitation reaches into our daily patterns. It asks us to notice where we assign credit. Many of us can own our failures, yet we cling to our wins as self-made. True humility does both: it admits fault without despair and returns every success to the Giver. This shift not only guards our hearts from hidden pride but also frees us to serve with generosity.Along the way, we hold up two paths after a fall: Judas’s despair and Peter’s tears. Both men failed; only one trusted love enough to come back. That trust becomes our Lenten practice—confess quickly, ask boldly, and let grace carry what effort cannot. We close with practical steps for the week, from fasting on Friday to small acts of mercy that keep our roots in living water. If this reflection moves you, share it with a friend, subscribe for the journey through Lent, and leave a review with one way you’re practicing humility today.Support the showNeed seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company.Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order!********************************************************Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1https://www.avoidingbabylon.comMerchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.comLocals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.comFull Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribeRSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Mar 4, 2026 • 1h 20min
This Theology Full of Messianic Fervor Wants War in Iran
Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!We discuss the new war in Iran, specifically how Evangelical Dispensationalist theology seems to be purposefully driving us deeper into war.Support the showNeed seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company.Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order!********************************************************Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1https://www.avoidingbabylon.comMerchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.comLocals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.comFull Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribeRSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Mar 4, 2026 • 20min
Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 15
Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link!When the urge to fix everything by ourselves runs hot, the Scriptures offer a better way. We open with Esther’s desperate prayer, where trust replaces leverage, and follow Jesus on the road to Jerusalem as he overturns our ideas of power: greatness is service, honor is sacrifice, and confidence is born from dependence on the Father.We bring those threads into real life with a candid look at self-reliance. Many of us were taught to power through, and that mindset often sneaks into prayer and penance. Drawing on Divine Intimacy, we explore why God allows our best-laid plans to fail when they rest on our own strength, and how humility—far from shrinking us—actually frees us to act with courage. You’ll hear how childlike trust does not cancel responsibility; it reshapes it. Repentance becomes lighter, service becomes joyful, and leadership becomes a quiet descent into love.Along the way, we challenge cultural scripts that idolize going it alone and consider a saner middle: take ownership of your choices while leaning hard on grace. Expect practical takeaways you can use today—short prayers of surrender, small acts of hidden service, and a fresh lens for setbacks that turns them into invitations. By the end, you’ll have a clearer picture of how to walk Lent with confidence that does not come from you, but from the One who calls you.If this resonated, subscribe, share it with a friend who’s carrying too much, and leave a quick review to help others find the show.Support the showNeed seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company.Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order!********************************************************Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1https://www.avoidingbabylon.comMerchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.comLocals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.comFull Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribeRSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss


