

Perpetual Traffic
Tier 11
Perpetual Traffic is a weekly podcast for CMOs, marketing directors, and business owners who want to master paid advertising, scale their businesses profitably and stay one step ahead of the shifting paid advertising landscape of today.
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
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Jun 14, 2022 • 45min
Why Kasim Is No Longer a PPC Marketer and How CTR Might Not Matter Anymore
Listen in to this roundtable discussion with the head Google strategists at Tier 11 and Solutions 8!Our PartnersConversion FanaticsBKA ContentSolutions 8 - The Best Google Ads Agency In The World DigitalMarketer | Marketing Tools & TrainingThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:Tier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/https://www.activecampaign.com/Tier 11 Data Suite www.AdRoll.com/PThttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetual

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Jun 10, 2022 • 39min
The Reason Quiz Funnels Haven't Worked for You with Ryan Levesque
Listen in to the second part of the interview with Ryan Levesque where he shares some more quiz funnel success stories -- and also why yours probably hasn't worked yet.Don't forget to join his Free Quiz Funnel MasterclassResources MentionedFree MasterclassFront Row DadsOur PartnersConversion FanaticsBKA ContentSolutions 8 - The Best Google Ads Agency In The World DigitalMarketer | Marketing Tools & TrainingThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualTier 11 Data Suite www.AdRoll.com/PTTier 11 Data Suite https://www.activecampaign.com/https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/

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Jun 7, 2022 • 45min
Why Zero-Party Data Is So Critical for Marketers | Interview with Ryan Levesque
Today’s conversation is with internet marketing legend, Ryan Levesque. He’s the founder of the ‘Ask Method’ and shares how the last two decades of marketing has prepared him for this moment. Ryan details how marketers and businesses can respond to the changing digital landscape and also what businesses need to do in order to survive. He also covers how quiz funnels can be a total game changer for businesses looking to get back the ROAS they saw pre-iOS 14.Topics Covered08:25 - Ryan shares an overview of the “Ask Method” and how it works for businesses12:39 - How the internet is evolving and what “Web 3.0” means for marketers15:35 - What “Zero-Party” data is and why it’s so important for marketers23:24 - Why zero-party data makes it easier to have sales conversations28:14 - Case studies and examples from different industries using the “Ask Method”Resources MentionedFree MasterclassFront Row DadsOur PartnersConversion FanaticsBKA ContentSolutions 8 - The Best Google Ads Agency In The World DigitalMarketer | Marketing Tools & TrainingMentioned in this episode:https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/www.AdRoll.com/PTTier 11 Data Suite https://www.activecampaign.com/https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualTier 11 Data Suite

Jun 3, 2022 • 19min
Easy Ways to Improve Your LTV and Lower Your CAC with John Ainsworth
Today, we are finishing our episode with John Ainsworth talking about after the click stuff. We talk about the importance of funnels and upsells, especially for course creators - and the DOs and DON'Ts when it comes to post-cart conversions.LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Solutions 8 Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/https://www.activecampaign.com/https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualwww.AdRoll.com/PTTier 11 Data Suite Tier 11 Data Suite

May 31, 2022 • 55min
Keys to Increasing your LTV and AOV with John Ainsworth
Would you like to increase your revenue 10-20% in one week (or do you hate money)? On today’s episode, co-hosts Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam sit down with John Ainsworth, CEO of Data Driven Marketing. John’s team works with online course creators who’ve already got a great course and a traffic source and help them optimize that traffic and increase their revenue in an ethical way. They’ve got a list of 8 proven strategies that work for everyone—because they take you back to the basics, the fundamentals. John says it’s shocking how many multi-million dollar companies don’t have these fundamentals in place. Yes, you have to put in the hard work and create something of value—an offer the world wants. “You can’t optimize until you implement,” John says. Then John and his team can help you take it from there.Listen in for some simple, but brilliant, ways to increase your average order value and your long-term value—and ultimately win with your customer.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:One easy way to increase your revenue 10-20% in one week How to convert more of your email list into buyersWays to utilize upsells and order bumps to fully monetize your funnel onlineHow to get started if you’re just now launching your first courseLINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Data Driven Marketingcourseprofitreport.comEmail John: john@datadrivenmarketing.coPerpetual Traffic SurveyFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion FanaticsLearn how bots can automate your lead flow from BotBuilders7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:Tier 11 Data Suite Tier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/https://www.activecampaign.com/https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualwww.AdRoll.com/PT

May 24, 2022 • 40min
How Ralph Structures His Campaigns for Massive ROAS
What if we told you that Tier 11 designed an ad campaign for an ecommerce store that resulted in a 608% revenue increase and 401% ROAS increase in less than 6 months?On today’s episode, we’re flipping the script a bit. Host Kasim Aslam interviews his usually-co-host Ralph Burns about an ad campaign at Tier 11 that took a struggling business from $29k/month to $176k/month in revenue in less than half a year. (Download the case study here.) Ralph talks about customer acquisition amplification and walks us through the structure of each of the five levels of traffic. But the bottom line, he says, is the creative. “The creative makes the audience. If you match incredible audience and interspace targeting with incredible front end creative and messaging, game over. You own the internet as a marketer. Mix the two together, and it’s online marketing nirvana.”Listen in to find out how to achieve this online marketing nirvana in your own campaigns.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:How (and why) to set up tracking before you do anything else The key differences at each level of traffic (aka, a funnel marketing masterclass) Why Tier 11 didn’t need to use a third party data tool in this campaignHow this case study would change today if they used Google Performance MaxLINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Download the case studyTier 11Perpetual Traffic SurveyFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion FanaticsLearn how bots can automate your lead flow from BotBuilders7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:Tier 11 Data Suite https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualTier 11 Data Suite https://www.activecampaign.com/www.AdRoll.com/PThttps://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/

May 20, 2022 • 21min
How Google Outsmarted Facebook and What it Means for Marketers
So, how did Facebook end up taking all the heat for this privacy stuff, while Google sat back quietly and dodged the bullets? On today’s episode, co-hosts Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam talk about the absolute brilliance of Google. For one thing, they don’t have a “face of the company,” so while everyone is out here hating Mark Zuckerberg and turning him into a meme, Google (whoever “Google” is) is more than happy to let him be the villain. Google watched Facebook take the heat for all the iOS 14 privacy updates madness. Then, when everyone was so fatigued that they didn’t even care anymore, Google rolled out Performance Max, the craziest, most invasive, most heavily-targeted tool in the history of the world. It’s literally going to change everything.Listen in for tips on staying on top of what’s new with Google Performance Max and what it means for your business. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why the 30-day attribution window/click to purchase paradigm is obsoleteWhat multi-touchpoint engagement means in practical terms The biggest mistake marketers are making right now with Performance Max2 new Performance Max features that just rolled out this weekLINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Solutions 8 on YouTubeEverything Google Knows About YouPerpetual Traffic SurveyFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion FanaticsLearn how bots can automate your lead flow from BotBuilders7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualTier 11 Data Suite https://www.activecampaign.com/https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/Tier 11 Data Suite www.AdRoll.com/PT

May 17, 2022 • 43min
3 Ways Running Traffic Has Changed... Maybe Forever
If you’re getting sick of the Google Performance Max discussion, get over it. Performance Max is the future of all things traffic. On today’s episode, co-hosts Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam walk us through the three big things they’ve learned from Google Performance Max in the past few months. At this early point in history, most people are not yet running PM. If you are, you’re in a great spot as a pioneer and influencer. It’s tempting to hold all this knowledge close to the vest, the guys say, so they can enjoy the fruits of their labor before the whole world catches on, but they can’t help but share. They (and their clients) are already spending thousands (even millions) of dollars on this platform. It truly changes everything we’ve ever known about traffic. The Golden Rule of Performance Max, Kasim says, is that there are no Golden Rules. Every client, every implementation is so different—and so customizable in the ways that matter. They’re literally learning something new every day.Listen in to find out what Google Performance Max can do for your business or agency.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:3 major events in online advertising and marketing that changed the entire game Why you need to stop thinking of Google as a placement platformWhat you need to know about user-generated content and massive media creationWhy Kasim believes the click-to-conversion paradigm is dead LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Solutions 8Solutions 8 on YouTubeNick Shackelford on LinkedInKonstant KreativeBilloNo Limit CreativesPerpetual Traffic SurveyFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion FanaticsLearn how bots can automate your lead flow from BotBuilders7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.activecampaign.com/Tier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/www.AdRoll.com/PTTier 11 Data Suite

May 13, 2022 • 17min
A Quick Strategy to Improve Facebook Campaigns
When it comes to using bid cap and cost cap in your ad campaigns, how do you balance getting the right customers but also increasing your volume and scaling? On today’s episode, co-hosts Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam sit down with Kobi Topaz of Tier 11 for a quick look at What’s Working Now: Big Cap/Cost Cap Edition. When do you use bid cap and cost cap strategies in your campaigns? Kobi says they really help with minimizing costs and saving the accounts on horrible days. Their main purpose is to balance things out. He walks us through structuring a campaign and when/how to use cost cap and bid cap to meet your goals. The important thing to remember, he says, is that the algorithm changes every day, so you’ve got to test. “Don’t fall back on what worked millions of years ago in Facebook time.”Listen in for some helpful tips for optimizing your campaigns while minimizing your costs.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:The key differences between cost cap and bid capTwo important things you have to have in place before using these strategies How, when, and why to duplicate your campaignsWhat Facebook is looking for when they rank your adsLINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Tier 11bid cap & cost capPerpetual Traffic SurveyFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion FanaticsLearn how bots can automate your lead flow from BotBuilders7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:Tier 11 Data Suite https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.activecampaign.com/https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/Tier 11 Data Suite www.AdRoll.com/PT

May 10, 2022 • 52min
Optimizing Facebook Campaigns in 2022 and Why Your Bid Strategy Matters
Are you getting similar results with every ad campaign even when you try to switch things up? On today’s episode, co-hosts Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam sit down with Kobi Topaz of Tier 11 to pick his wicked-ninja brain about ad campaign optimization. The guys don’t go easy on him. They demand that he share knowledge bombs—at least one hack/tip/trick in particular that he really doesn’t want to give away—to earn listeners’ trust. They also ask him very easy questions like: Where is the real source of truth? Apparently, he really is a ninja because he gives some great answers. He also shares his insight and expertise on story-based ads, deep dive avatar research, optimization schedules, and how to get good leads for cheap.Listen in for some knowledge bombs you can apply to your ad campaigns today.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why transformational story video ads work better than anything else on Facebook Where the most helpful avatar data comes from (and how to get it) What you should know about cheap leads, good leads, and impulse leadsHow to make sure the attribution model on the platform matches the actual numbers LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Tier 11Ian GarlicNorthbeamPerpetual Traffic SurveyFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion FanaticsLearn how bots can automate your lead flow from BotBuilders7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:www.AdRoll.com/PTTier 11 Data Suite https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualTier 11 Data Suite https://www.activecampaign.com/https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/


