

Free Cities Podcast
Timothy Allen
The Free Cities Podcast is the official podcast of the Free Cities Foundation, hosted by Timothy Allen.
Long-form, in-person conversations with the people building new jurisdictions and real-world pathways to more freedom: We focus on what actually works, the legal structures, incentives, economics, and business models that turn freedom from an idea into a way of life. Builders and skeptics welcome.
New episodes every Friday. Video and all links: https://linktr.ee/FreeCitiesPodcast
Long-form, in-person conversations with the people building new jurisdictions and real-world pathways to more freedom: We focus on what actually works, the legal structures, incentives, economics, and business models that turn freedom from an idea into a way of life. Builders and skeptics welcome.
New episodes every Friday. Video and all links: https://linktr.ee/FreeCitiesPodcast
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Apr 3, 2026 • 1h 18min
176 - Why Everything Feels Broken | James Price
“When Starmer came in in 2024, how many people across the entire British state changed jobs?
Two hundred.
One hundred ministers… and one hundred special advisors… And that’s it. And everybody else in that deep state stayed exactly the same.”
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Timothy Allen sits down with James Price, former UK government adviser and political commentator, for a wide-ranging conversation on what it’s really like inside the machinery of the modern state. Drawing on his experience at the heart of government, James offers a candid perspective on why many institutions are increasingly struggling to deliver, how political incentives shape decision-making behind the scenes, and why problems that appear local to the UK may in fact be symptoms of a much broader systemic shift.
The discussion explores the growing gap between what governments promise and what they can realistically achieve, the pressures created by cultural and demographic change, and whether traditional models of governance are equipped to handle the complexity of what’s coming next. Along the way, they touch on the limits of reform, the role of public perception, and what all of this might mean for those looking beyond the nation-state for alternative ways of organising society.
Enjoy the conversation.
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Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
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Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:
EP 156: https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq
EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI
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TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)
0:00:29 - Episode introduction
0:07:02 - Start of Conversation
0:08:36 - What is the real problem with modern government?
0:15:20 - Only 200 people change when governments change
0:16:46 - Why nothing works anymore and legitimacy is breaking down
0:19:03 - Bureaucracy as the real power: ministers as “viruses”
0:24:30 - Civil service incentives and resistance to change
0:29:00 - Government vs business: why execution fails
0:33:30 - Centralisation vs decentralisation
0:38:00 - Political cycles and economic reality
0:42:30 - Freedom vs control trade-offs
0:47:00 - Immigration and pressure on the system
0:51:30 - Democracy and loss of public trust
0:56:00 - The administrative state vs elected power
1:01:00 - Why reform keeps failing
1:08:00 - What replaces the current system?
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Mar 27, 2026 • 2h 53min
175 - The Last Free Place | Oswald Horowitz
“I will die at sea for sure. I’m not going back.”
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Timothy Allen sits down with filmmaker Oswald Horowitz, the man behind the upcoming documentary The Legend of Landi, to trace the strange true story of Samuele Landi, an Italian tech entrepreneur who set out to live beyond the reach of the normal system on a rusty barge in international waters between Dubai and Iran.
What begins as Oswald's quixotic quest to track Landi down, involving ignored Telegram messages, a ketchup-themed short film, a Croatian police ban, and a Dubai fisherman willing to sail forty miles offshore, opens out into something far bigger. Landi's life turns out to be nothing like the press had painted it, and the story takes turns that nobody could have scripted.
This is a conversation about myth, obsession, sovereignty, and the kind of rare individuals willing to push past every frontier to find out whether real freedom can actually be built at sea.
Enjoy the conversation.
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New ArkPad Seasteading Resort in Próspera: https://tinyurl.com/ArkPad
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LEAD SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
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Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:
EP 156: https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq
EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI
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TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)
0:00:29 – Introduction
0:08:24 – Start of conversation
0:09:56 – Why seasteading matters and how Oswald found the world
0:11:53 – Ephemeris and the search for a real seasteader
0:19:17 – Meeting Samuel Landi through Vít Jedlička
0:22:04 – Oswald’s strange strategy for getting invited on board
0:26:16 – Chasing Vít to Liberland
0:33:25 – Dubai, the failed yacht mission, and finding a way to the barge
0:39:39 – Arriving at Landi’s platform in the middle of nowhere
0:43:16 – The whisky test and first impressions of Landi
0:46:22 – Family, adventure, and why Landi chose the sea
0:51:57 – Media narratives, freedom, and why seasteading gets misread
0:55:13 – Living on the barge and why Landi chose barges over prototypes
1:02:26 – Landi’s death and the mystery after the storm
1:07:05 – The wreck, the survivors, and what really happened at sea
1:17:18 – Filming the wreck and Landi’s underwater afterlife
1:23:57 – Liberia, diplomacy, and the wider Landi backstory
1:31:28 – Berlusconi, exile, and the making of a fugitive pioneer
1:36:52 – Why Landi helped rescue Liberian girls in Oman
1:46:05 – Liberland, micronations, and whether new states can survive
1:55:17 – Landi’s family history and the idea of blood memory
2:03:56 – The sovereign individual, frontiers, and escaping the system
2:11:25 – Why pioneers are always treated like outlaws
2:22:09 – The ending of the film and the bronze head of Landi
2:31:47 – Why the monument matters and who it is really for
2:41:24 – Making art for the few people who will actually act
2:49:56 – Final thoughts on seasteading and Landi’s legacy
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Mar 20, 2026 • 1h 47min
174 - The Architecture of Spontaneous Order | Patrik Schumacher
"Land use should not be prescribed by any planning regime. People come together into the city by seeking out very particular connections and a multitude of connections. And they have to find each other. There needs to be the degree of freedom to associate and self-organize what I call the co-location synergies."
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Timothy Allen sits down with Patrik Schumacher, principal architect at Zaha Hadid Architects and the theorist behind “parametricism,” to talk about what happens when cities are allowed to evolve like markets: bottom up, adaptive, and shaped by real human purposes rather than planning committees.
Starting with the 2008 crisis and Schumacher’s path into Austrian economics, the conversation moves into why he thinks the built environment is one of the most anti-market domains in the modern West, and how that shows up as paralysis, affordability problems, and “garbage spill” urbanization with no coherent identity.
From there, Patrik makes the case that architecture should not impose a preconceived formal order, but should make an emerging network of relationships legible: tracing flows, affiliations, and co-location synergies the way a living ecosystem organizes itself.
They close by bringing it back to Free Cities: whether a city with more freedom should look different, why frontier governance should pair with frontier design, and how computational tools and AI could accelerate a new era of high-performance, highly readable urbanism.
Enjoy the conversation.
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New ArkPad Seasteading Resort in Próspera: https://tinyurl.com/ArkPad
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LEAD SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
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Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:
EP 156: https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq
EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI
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TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)
0:00:30 – Episode introduction
0:10:22 – Start of Conversation
0:12:17 – Planning kills the market process (housing affordability)
0:15:40 – Parametricism vs “parametric design” and where it came from
0:22:23 – Cities as spontaneous order, and architecture’s real job
0:33:07 – Can you build a city from scratch? Seeding vs rigid masterplans
0:44:33 – “Garbage spill urbanization” and why modern places feel soulless
0:50:12 – Why “copy the historic city” is understandable but limited
0:57:13 – Tectonism: engineering logic, vaults, ribs, and optimal forms
1:02:03 – AI in architecture: why it won’t flatten everything into sameness
1:14:55 – “Perfectly optimized design” and why humans still set the tradeoffs
1:24:08 – Should free cities have a recognizable architectural identity?
1:41:46 – Rule-based design that “tells you more”
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Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities

Mar 13, 2026 • 1h 15min
173 - The Hidden Path to Tyranny | Mailyn Salabarria
"You can vote your way into socialism, but you can only shoot your way out. They're never going to leave power."
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Timothy Allen sits down with Mailyn Salabarria, a Cuban refugee and liberty advocate, to talk about what “voting with your feet” looks like when it is not a lifestyle choice but a survival move. Mailyn describes leaving Cuba with two suitcases and $200, then having to learn how freedom actually works once she arrived in the US.
From there, the conversation gets darker: why Cuba is not “quaint,” how the country is actively disintegrating (hospitals, power, crime, morality), and how the regime sustains itself through censorship, embedded informants, and a tourist-facing propaganda veneer. Mailyn also explains how remittances and “private” businesses still loop back into state control, and why she sees Venezuela as a key pressure point for Cuba’s future.
They close on a guarded optimism: Florida as a lower-government bubble, a possible US fracturing scenario, and the surprising momentum for freer-market politics across Latin America, with the hope that the trend eventually reaches Cuba too.
Enjoy the conversation.
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New ArkPad Seasteading Resort in Próspera: https://tinyurl.com/ArkPad
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LEAD SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
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Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:
EP 156: https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq
EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI
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TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)
0:00:30 – Episode introduction
0:07:07 – Start of Conversation
0:09:00 – From “survival mode” to “purpose”: speaking at Free Cities Conference
0:11:16 – “Two suitcases, $200”: why voting with your feet is easier now
0:14:41 – “Same dog, different leash”: parties, lockdowns, and the regulatory state
0:21:13 – “The country is disintegrating”: hospitals, disease, kids and elderly first
0:25:22 – The “quaint Cuba” tourism myth and the propaganda veneer
0:29:49 – Private property as an illusion: Cuba’s “private” loop and US property taxes
0:30:51 – Why Venezuela matters: Maduro, oil supply lines, and the tipping-point theory
0:34:24 – Remittances as regime revenue: the state skims money sent home
0:38:30 – No internet, no power: why Bitcoin and alternatives struggle to emerge
0:45:02 – Snitch networks and the price of betrayal
0:51:42 – The hard rebuild is mindset: personal responsibility after communism
0:54:39 – “I don’t exist”: erased records and why she cannot return yet
1:07:30 – Hope moves south: Latin America’s pro-market turn
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Mar 6, 2026 • 2h 37min
172 - The Ultimate Exit Strategy | Joe Quirk
"The golden age of voluntarism, anarcho-capitalism has already emerged. It's all over two-thirds of the Earth's surface. It's completely flourishing. It's long since entered its golden age. We've already proved that it works because it emerged naturally on the sea.
It's called the cruise ship industry."
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Timothy Allen sits down with Joe Quirk, president of The Seasteading Institute, to make the strongest practical case for “exit” as a governance strategy, starting with Sealand and pirate-radio absurdity and ending with a serious blueprint for floating communities that can iterate on rules the way markets iterate on products.
They use cruise ships as the key intuition pump: millions of people already live for weeks at sea under private rule-sets with security, dispute resolution, labor hierarchies, and tight logistics, which makes seasteading less sci-fi and more a question of engineering, law, and finance.
From there, the conversation digs into what actually blocks seasteads from becoming mainstream: legal classification (not quite a ship, not quite a building), insurance, standards, and the need for designs that feel like livable cities rather than tiny pods for hobbyists. Joe argues seasteads are a “technology” for creating 100,000 competing governance experiments across most of the planet, while Timothy keeps pressing on the realism: what would make this legible, scalable, and resilient against political pushback.
Enjoy the conversation.
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New ArkPad Seasteading Resort in Próspera: https://tinyurl.com/ArkPad
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LEAD SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
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Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:
EP 156: https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq
EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI
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TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)
0:00:30 – Episode introduction
0:09:46 – Start of Conversation
0:11:00 – Sealand origin story, warning shot, “outside our jurisdiction”
0:16:00 – Media narrative shift: “seasteading comeback” and brand rehab
0:23:24 – AI analogical reasoning and “ChatGPT fatigue”
0:34:31 – Cruise ships as anarcho-capitalist governance at scale
0:38:16 – “Will the state just crush it?” and how exit survives
0:43:44 – Islands, vice, and why governments ignore bigger abuses
0:48:06 – Paradigm defense: why people resist solutions they can’t unsee
0:54:49 – The captain as dictator, overlapping jurisdictions, polycentric order
0:59:48 – Salvage law and Lloyd’s as a working market court
1:12:16 – Planet Ocean: why space is propaganda and the ocean is the real frontier
1:47:37 – Flat earth as a stress test for epistemology and belief
2:18:18 – The bottleneck: certification, insurance, flags, and making seasteads family-safe
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Seasteading Institute: https://x.com/Seasteading
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Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
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Joe's Bibliography: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B000AQ5392
Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
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Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
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Feb 27, 2026 • 1h 56min
171 - The Truth About Special Economic Zones | Lotta Moberg
"There were probably a lot of brown envelopes on the table involved — they said, okay, have this zone then."
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Timothy Allen speaks with economist Lotta Moberg.
Lotta, author of the leading academic book on special economic zones, joins the podcast to challenge the conventional wisdom around why zones exist, whether they actually work, and what the popular narrative gets wrong.
The conversation opens with Lotta's framework: political economy and public choice theory, which assumes policymakers are self-interested humans, not benevolent optimizers. This lens reshapes how we understand why governments create zones — and why many underperform yet continue to receive funding.
She pushes back on the "sandbox" narrative around China's early zones, arguing the origin story was messier and more bottom-up than the neat version usually told. Local businessmen near Hong Kong lobbied corrupt local officials to allow trade — and the central government only endorsed the model years later once results were undeniable.
Key takeaways include: privately developed zones consistently outperform government-run ones; failing zones often attract more subsidies rather than being shut down; and the scholarship on 6,000+ zones worldwide remains surprisingly thin.
The second half shifts to free cities, wealth management strategy, Bitcoin as property rights in the digital realm, cannabis investing as a case study in maturing industries, and why governance by contract rather than birth may be the most important shift of our generation. Lotta declares herself "a total convert" to the contractual governance model after watching Próspera survive political opposition.
Enjoy the conversation.
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Links Mentioned in the Show:
New ArkPad Seasteading Resort in Próspera: https://tinyurl.com/ArkPad
EP 111 with Alex Martynov: https://fountain.fm/episode/WTlkU4B2kkMr8qTuoYyF
Email Alex Martynov: alex@alexmartynov.com
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SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
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Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:
EP 156: https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq
EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI
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TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)
0:00:00 – Episode introduction
0:08:09 – Start of Conversation
0:09:30 – Reacting To The “Zones Of Progress” Narrative
0:12:11 – Political Economy And Public Choice Explained
0:15:09 – Have Politicians Ever Been Benevolent?
0:18:52 – Bias, Scholarship, And Why SEZs Are Not Obvious
0:20:35 – Are SEZs Really “Sandboxes” For Reform?
0:26:06 – China’s Zones Were Bottom-Up, Not A Master Plan
0:31:26 – Decentralization: Political Freedom Plus Fiscal Incentives
0:39:36 – Why Failing Zones Get Subsidized Even More
0:41:05 – Can Governments Create Free City Style Projects?
0:45:32 – Privately Developed Zones Beat Government-Run Zones
0:48:49 – Are ZEDEs “Cute” Or Life-Changing? Lotta’s Take
0:52:17 – Free Cities And VC: What Changes When It Gets “Cool”
0:57:55 – Time-Horizon Investing And Wealth Management Strategy
1:09:19 – Investing Personality, Free Cities, And Unusual Bets
1:24:31 – Bitcoin, Property Rights, And Why Free Cities Matter
1:30:13 – Governance By Contract And “I’m A Total Convert”
1:47:24 – What To Call The Movement: Free Cities vs Startup Cities
1:51:35 – Closing: What Comes Next And A Positive Outlook
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Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
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OTHER LINKS:
Lotta Moberg: https://lottamoberg.com/
Lotta's Book on SEZs: https://www.amazon.com/Political-Economy-Special-Economic-Zones-ebook/dp/B0GF92X3VB
Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Invest in ArkPad's Próspera Resort: http://tinyurl.com/ArkPad
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
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Feb 20, 2026 • 1h 31min
170 - Leaving Europe Is The Rational Choice | Tim Stern
"I want to be back in my tribe. I want to have strong people which I can rely on, which I can do business with, which I know, which have my back and I have theirs. That's exactly what I want to have. And if we are building this place right now, why would I fill it with people I don't know and I don't give a shit about?"
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“The whole country is falling apart and nobody gives a shit about it.”
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Timothy Allen speaks with Tim Stern, founder of CryptoCity on Margarita Island, Venezuela.
Tim explains why more Europeans are treating exit as a practical strategy, not a fantasy: rising tax friction, social instability, and the creeping merge of Digital ID with state money.
We talk about why “CryptoCity” is a toxic name for Bitcoiners, what a DAO is actually useful for (crowdfunding businesses and managing shared infrastructure), and why he is building a high-trust community with a hard filter.
We also get into the on-the-ground reality: moving earth, building terraces, planning a real port, and the longer-term bet that Latin America buys you time while Europe tightens control.
Enjoy the conversation.
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Links Mentioned in the Show:
New ArkPad Seasteading Resort in Próspera: https://tinyurl.com/ArkPad
EP 111 with Alex Martynov: https://fountain.fm/episode/WTlkU4B2kkMr8qTuoYyF
Email Alex Martynov: alex@alexmartynov.com
NEWS 002 episode with Tim Stern after Maduro Capture: https://fountain.fm/episode/mfLZXe5WpBaEbGs3vz2e
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SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
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Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:
EP 156: https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq
EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI
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TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)
0:00:29 – Episode introduction
0:12:14 – Start of Conversation
0:14:01 – Media Backlash And “Billionaire Conspiracy” Narratives
0:16:46 – “Will Maduro Nationalize It?” Political Risk And How Margarita Differs From The Mainland
0:19:21 – “CryptoCity” Name Debate: Bitcoin Vs “Crypto”
0:22:37 – What The DAO Actually Does: Crowdfunding Local Businesses
0:28:09 – Project Update: 1.1M Tons Of Earth Moved, Terraces, Scale
0:31:01 – The Port Plan: Permits, Timeline, And Funding
0:33:16 – Freshwater Discovery And Why It Changes Everything
0:43:13 – Why People Are Leaving Europe: Exit Taxes, Incentives, And “Chaining” Entrepreneurs
0:49:55 – Germany Vs Prague: Safety, Culture, And “Normal People From The 90s”
1:06:29 – Digital ID And CBDCs: The Next Control Layer
1:12:02 – Bitcoin As Parallel Rails Vs Physical-World Chokepoints
1:16:05 – CryptoCity In 20 Seconds: Who It’s For And How Selection Works
1:19:10 – Roadmap: Walls, Roads, First Houses, And Next Steps
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LEGACY SOCIAL MEDIA:
CryptoCity on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFeDneLtvyG7AXR6GPsOBIg
CryptoCity on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cryptocityve/
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
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OTHER LINKS:
CryptoCity: https://www.cryptocity.land/
Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Invest in ArkPad's Próspera Resort: http://tinyurl.com/ArkPad
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities

Feb 13, 2026 • 1h 27min
169 - The First Operational Seasteading Resort: Reef Resort | Mitchell Suchner
"If I can sell someone something to buy, they might buy it. If you can sell someone something that they can live in, they're likely to buy it. If you can sell someone something that they can live in and also generates passive income for them, they're very likely to buy it."
A real seasteading resort exists today. Here’s the business model behind it.
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Timothy Allen speaks with Mitchell Suchner, founder of ArkPad.
Mitchell is building real, operational seasteading infrastructure, including Reef Resort in the Philippines. This episode is the economic case for how floating projects scale into ocean communities: not by ideology first, but by exports, revenue, and industry.
We walk through the “seasteading stack” Mitchell sees emerging: aquaculture as early cashflow, tourism as a growth engine, and longer-term ocean industries like mineral extraction from seawater, offshore data infrastructure, and autonomous logistics. The conversation also covers platform stability, storm resilience, maritime flags and jurisdiction, and why distance from political risk can be a strategic advantage.
Enjoy the conversation.
Invest in the new ArkPad Seasteading Resort in Próspera: - https://tinyurl.com/arkpad
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SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:
EP 156: https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq
EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI
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TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)
0:00:29 – Episode introduction
0:05:23 – Start of Conversation
0:07:20 – Mitchell’s Background And Path Into Seasteading
0:11:40 – Why Seasteading Must Start With Economics
0:18:10 – Ocean Mining And Extracting Minerals From Seawater
0:25:00 – Cities Need Exports: The Economic Case For Seasteads
0:33:40 – What Ocean Cities Will Actually Look Like
0:41:20 – ArkPad Designs, Stability, And Storm Resilience
0:48:10 – The Seasteading Income Stack: Fish, Tourism, Mining
0:52:40 – Offshore Data Centers And Future Ocean Industry
0:59:30 – Floating RVs, Flotillas, And Early Adoption Models
1:08:10 – Maritime Flags, Jurisdiction, And Governance At Sea
1:17:10 – Distance As Protection And Political Strategy
1:23:30 – Scaling From Projects To Cities
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LEGACY SOCIAL MEDIA:
Mitchell Suchner: https://x.com/M_Suchner
ArkPad: https://x.com/real_Arkpad
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
OTHER LINKS:
ArkPad: https://arkpad.co/
Reef Resort: https://reefresort.co/
Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities

Feb 6, 2026 • 2h 4min
168 - Vikram Bharati: At the Intersection of Free Cities & Network States
“The free cities community seems very much more buttoned up and more pragmatic – real estate, free cities, development, SEZs. You need lawyers, you need bankers.
And then the network state community, there’s a lot more dreamers, young dreamers who want to do pop-up cities.
But there’s a convergence in between where you have a group of people who are a bit of both. And I think that middle group of people are people that are going to do some very interesting things.”
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Timothy Allen speaks with Vikram Bharati.
Vikram is the founder of Draper Nation, a governance venture lab focused on experimenting with new political and institutional models across both physical and digital realms. Vikram’s background spans venture capital, startup ecosystems, and long-running work with Tim Draper, with a particular focus on digital governance, networked communities, and cloud-based public services.
The conversation moves from personal history, including Vikram’s roots in Nagaland and Timothy’s formative experiences across Northeast India, into a broader discussion of tribal governance, decentralization, and how small-scale systems resolve conflict and maintain cohesion. These lived examples become a lens for questioning democracy at scale and exploring why experimentation, rather than reform, is the primary driver of governance improvement.
From there, the discussion connects Free Cities and Network States as complementary experiments: Free Cities operating on the ground through real estate, law, and host-state agreements, and Network States operating in the cloud through digital coordination and identity. Drawing on examples from China’s Special Economic Zones, private cities, Bitcoin, and Draper Nation’s digital nation experiments, the episode argues that the most meaningful governance innovation is emerging where physical jurisdictions and cloud-based systems intersect.
Enjoy the conversation.
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SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
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Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
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Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:
EP 156: https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq
EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI
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TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)
0:00:00 – Episode introduction
0:06:42 – Start of Conversation
0:15:12 – Shared Connection To Nagaland And Northeast India
0:27:40 – Tribal Governance, Christianity, And Social Cohesion
0:56:03 – Decentralization Vs Centralization And Conflict
0:59:24 – China’s Special Economic Zones As Governance Sandboxes
1:17:04 – Free Cities As Experiments In Governance Evolution
1:18:10 – Draper Nation Explained: A Governance Venture Lab
1:35:32 – Building A Digital Nation Without Land
1:45:04 – Free Cities Vs Network States: Pragmatists And Dreamers
1:48:08 – Bitcoin For Money, Databases For Everything Else
1:59:19 – Why Radical Governance Experiments Are Necessary
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Vikram Bharati: https://x.com/vikbharati
Draper Nation: https://x.com/drapernationhq
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
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OTHER LINKS:
Draper Nation: https://drapernation.com/
Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities

Jan 30, 2026 • 1h 14min
167 - Mikkel Thorup: The Global Freedom Map Is Changing
“How do you get out of this? How do you separate yourself from your government today? How do you protect your wealth and your ability to provide for your family today?”
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Timothy Allen speaks with Mikkel Thorup.
Mikkel is a long-time expat, offshore consultant, and founder of Expat Money. He has spent over 25 years living outside his country of birth, traveled to more than 120 countries, and works directly with families, entrepreneurs, and high earners looking to reduce friction with the systems they live under.
What begins with travel stories from Central Asia and reflections on cultural psychology quickly expands into a deeper conversation about freedom, perspective, and trade-offs. Mikkel challenges Western assumptions about liberty, compares overt and hidden forms of control, and argues that many people do not actually want freedom once responsibility enters the picture.
From China and the Middle East to Panama and Latin America, the discussion maps where real-world freedom is increasing, where it is quietly disappearing, and why jurisdictions with territorial tax systems and diversified revenue models are becoming magnets for mobile families. Along the way, Mikkel explains why Panama functions as a de facto city-state, how offshore structures really work in practice, and why physical communities matter more than online movements alone.
The second half of the conversation moves into harder territory: public education, UBI, loss of purpose, and why meaning, struggle, and family remain central even in a world of optionality. Rather than offering slogans or hacks, the episode stays grounded in lived experience, trade-offs, and personal responsibility.
Enjoy the conversation.
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SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
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Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
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Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages:
EP 156: https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq
EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI
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TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only)
0:00:00 – Episode introduction
0:07:36 – Start of Conversation
0:10:12 – Do Humans Actually Want Freedom?
0:12:41 – China, The West, And Trade-Offs In Freedom
0:15:15 – “China Is Honest, The West Hides Control”
0:20:59 – Why Panama Works As A Freedom Hub
0:23:46 – How Panama Funds Itself Without Heavy Taxation
0:26:15 – Politics, Elections, And Why Socialism Doesn’t Take Root
0:28:33 – Veritas Villages And Physical Communities
0:31:14 – Dropping Out Of School And Rejecting State Education
0:36:15 – The Arctic, Meaninglessness, And UBI As A Warning
0:40:18 – Showing Alternatives Instead Of Fixing Broken Systems
0:46:20 – Physical Communities Vs Countries On The Internet
0:50:12 – Freedom Of Movement After Lockdowns
0:53:14 – Who Is Moving To Latin America And Why
0:56:16 – Early Retirement, Purpose, And Human Flourishing
0:59:26 – Enthusiasm, Mission, And Life Direction
1:01:36 – Bitcoin In Panama And Legal Reality
1:04:09 – Panama As A De Facto City-State
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Mikkel Thorup: https://x.com/ThorupMikkel
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
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OTHER LINKS:
Expat Money: https://expatmoney.com
Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities


