

Relevant Recovery
Donnie & Heather
Hosts Heather & Donnie discuss challenges relevant to recovery. Topics include chemical dependencies on a variety of substances, as well as food, social media, money and much more. They discuss everything from mental health, anxiety, depression, fear, marriage and resentment. Join Heather and Donnie as they share their personal experience with recovery and sobriety.
Episodes
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Jan 19, 2026 • 1h 36min
Controlling and Complaining – Episode 237
Control and complaining quietly rob us of serenity. In this episode, we look at how “playing God” and focusing on what’s wrong keeps us stuck in self-will—and how surrender, gratitude, and daily spiritual practice restore peace. Straight from the Big Book, practical, and real.

Jan 12, 2026 • 1h 42min
Understanding Our Instinct - Episode 236
Step Four isn’t about shame—it’s about clarity. In this episode, we reframe the Fourth Step as a tool for understanding the fear, pride, and out-of-balance instincts that drive our behavior long before alcohol shows up. This isn’t self-punishment—it’s pattern recognition, truth, and the foundation for real freedom.

Jan 5, 2026 • 1h 46min
The Rescue Trap - Episode 235
Am I really helping—or keeping them stuck? Discover the difference between love that empowers and love that enables. Set boundaries, foster responsibility, and let God do the work.

Dec 29, 2025 • 1h 41min
The Subtle Ways Of Self-Centeredness - Episode 234
Most of us can spot selfishness when we’re drinking — but after sobriety, self-centeredness just gets quieter, more justified, and more spiritual-sounding. This episode exposes how the root problem evolves in recovery.

Dec 22, 2025 • 1h 43min
The “Do Not Enter” Sign - Episode 233
In this episode, we revisit one of our most requested topics: Real, Lasting Change. If you feel like you are doing the "Recovery Cha Cha"—one step forward, two steps back—it’s likely not a discipline problem. It’s a spiritual one.

Dec 15, 2025 • 1h 56min
We Agnostics - Episode 232
In this episode we look at the problem of living a self-directed life, how even believers can function agnostically, and why this chapter was written to help both the atheist become open-minded, and the believer become honest about their own self-reliance. If you’ve ever struggled with faith, control, or the spiritual side of recovery, this episode brings clarity, hope, and practical tools.

Dec 8, 2025 • 1h 34min
The Stuff Nobody Explains - Episode 231
Alcoholics Anonymous has a language all its own. When someone is new, they often have no idea what certain words mean—especially the way they’re used in the Big Book and other 12-step literature. Learning the intended meaning behind this language can clear up a lot of confusion. In this episode, we break down these key terms so we can carry the AA message with more clarity, consistency, and accuracy.
Big Book page references for Craving: in the Drs Op 7 times! XXVIII, This word does not appear again in basic text until page 134 in The Family Afterward and its used in regular contest for chocolate. Allergy is used 3 times in Drs Op.
Big Book page references for Insanity: Used 9 times: 8, 9, 30, 37, 40, 56, 66, 107, 154.
16 Big Book page references for Recovered: Pg. iii, xiii, xv, xvii, xxv, 17, 20, 29, 45, 90, 96, 113, 132, 133, 146 & 165

Dec 1, 2025 • 1h 49min
The Magic Pill - Episode 230
Feeling stalled, off, or spiritually flat—even with years of sobriety? In this episode, we talk about why information isn’t the same as application, why there’s no quick spiritual fix, and how getting back into the daily practice of the 12 Steps brings real change. We break down the signs of a spiritual stall, the myth of the “magic pill,” and the simple actions that reconnect us to growth, community, and purpose.

Nov 24, 2025 • 1h 55min
Stand For Something - Episode 229
What do you actually stand for? When life pressures you, what keeps you grounded? Are your beliefs based on unchanging truth—or on feelings and trends? #Those who stand for nothing, will fall for anything.

Nov 17, 2025 • 1h 47min
The Soil of the Soul - Episode 228
Why Some Find Recovery and Some Don’t.
We’re going to look at a old story Jesus told in Luke 8, called The Parable of the Sower, and connect it to what the Big Book calls “a design for living that really works.”


