After the JAG Corps: Navigating Your Career Progression

Tom Welsh
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Apr 11, 2026 • 48min

172. Jake Pugh, Founder and Chief Legal Officer, VetsForever

As we leave the service, we tend to spend a lot of time trying to figure out what we want to do and what road we want to travel. Jake Pugh shows us that sometimes choosing the best can be found in the road that one has already traversed. He has successfully done that, This is his story.
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Mar 28, 2026 • 1h 19min

171. A Life of Law and Service: Colonel Max Wood’s Journey

By any account, Frank "Max" Wood has had a successful and varied legal career. From judicial clerk to active duty Air Force JAG serving in Wyoming, the Philippines, and Texas, to then serving as a prosecutor, U.S. Attorney, Georgia's Chief Administrative Law Judge, and Director of the Office of Hearings and Appeals for the U.S. Department of Agriculture, among others, and continued service in the Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard, it has been a career of public service. In this episode, Max shares his journey .
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Mar 14, 2026 • 57min

170. Adam Torem - Lawyer, Airman, and Judge: A Career of Opportunities

In this episode, we hear from Adam Torem, a retired U.S. Air Force judge advocate whose intention was to leverage his environmental law experience in the civilian sector, but ended up relying on his other skills and experiences to eventually become a career administrative law judge for the State of Washington.
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Feb 28, 2026 • 49min

169. "Truckin" With Bill Rogers

This week, I talk with Bill Rogers, who has a very diverse legal career: civilian practice, Air Force, Air Force Reserve, government servant, general counsel, advisor, BnB owner/operator, back to private practice, and farmer. In light of that, the title of this podcast is a hat tip to the Grateful Dead.
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Feb 14, 2026 • 1h 1min

168. Filling a Niche with K. Denise Rucker Krepp

This week, I catch up with Denise Krepp, who has made a career of filling a niche since she left the Coast Guard in 2002, and a person always willing to take on the fights that need to be fought.
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Jan 31, 2026 • 57min

167. Coast to Coast with Rachel Reddick

This week, a conversation with former Navy judge advocate Rachel Reddick whose post military career has included a brush with political office, service with Military Commissions Defense Office, a move across country, the California bar exam, a stint as an employment lawyer, and now as an attorney with an Investigations firm.
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Jan 17, 2026 • 53min

166. It Don't GTMO Better Than This: Jennifer Strazza!

As a young officer, Jennifer was told that that her job with the Naval Support Group Activity at Fort Meade was not conducive to long-term success for a career in the Navy JAG Corps. Taking the hint, Jennifer started applying for jobs, but having made a good impression on a civilian attorney with whom she often collaborated, Jen landed at the National Security Activity, where she has been for over two decades.
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Jan 3, 2026 • 1h 12min

165. Rachel Flannery: Pivoting With Intention

In this episode, Rachel Flannery, U.S. Army Reserve, takes us through her career progression from the Active Component to a career as a National Security Attorney at the Department of Homeland Security, via Georgetown and an LLM, in pursuit of her goal to "Pivot With Intention."
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Dec 20, 2025 • 51min

164. Meet the Swiss Army Knife, John Smallman

This week, we hear from former Marine, steelworker, FBI agent, Navy JAG, NCIS special agent, counter-intelligence officer, volunteer, and fisherman, John Smallman. From investigating crimes to prosecuting them, John has had a dynamic and interesting career. Full of great sea stories and laughs, there is no better way to close-out the year than talking to John about his career.
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Dec 6, 2025 • 46min

163. Shelby Hladon: The Volunteer Who Cannot Say No

In this episode, we hear from Shelby Hladon whose desire to spend more time with her sons has led to a post-military career as a volunteer, especially when it comes to youth and veterans.

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