

Travis Makes Money
Travis Chappell
You can't save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strategies on side hustles, skill building, investing, building generational wealth, or just motivation to take your next steps, this podcast is your resource. Tune in daily for insights, actionable tips, and inspiration from some of the most successful and interesting money-makers on the planet.
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Aug 19, 2021 • 47min
682: Kristin Lee | How High Net worth People Manage Their Money
With great money comes great responsibility; so how do you manage it and who helps you in the process? Kristin Lee is an accountant and business manager focusing on intricate international tax and business structures for a myriad of clients. Kristin has worked at some of the top business management firms in the world throughout her career before starting KLBM, a company providing a full range of business management and accounting services to musicians, athletes, writers, actors, producers, labels, and other high net worth individuals and companies all over the world. Dive into this episode and learn some practical knowledge about how Kristin helps high net worth individuals and entities manage their money.Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 05:21] Opening Segment
I introduce today’s guest, Kristin Lee
Bio
Kristin gives us some background on her story
A love for performance and music
Following the business path
Getting into the passionate side of business and accounting
[05:22 - 21:01] How High Net worth People Manage Their Money
Transitioning from traditional accounting to the creative space
Avoiding the emergency point
Don’t be afraid to delegate
How much should education come into play vs. delegation
Due diligence is still important
When it’s time to outsource
Business mistakes people should avoid early on
The issue of not forming your business correctly
Watch out for taxes
General, legal tax saving tips
A word from our sponsors
[21:02 - 37:20] Kristin Lee on Building Your Network
Kristin talks about the process of growing her firm
Who you know or what you know?
A lot of growth due to who you know
How to stay on top of the mind of clients
Be the best and take care of your clients
Working through the pandemic
Having the right systems and people in place
The role masterminds and mentorships played in Kristin’s success
Having good bosses who trained well
Connections that led to success
How Kristin would build up her network from ground zero
Persistence and alignment with the right people
Annoying persistence vs. Professionalism
[37:21 - 45:46] Closing Segment
ThE RaNDoM RoUnD
How to engage with Kristin
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “I would encourage people to not be afraid to delegate because then you can really focus on things that are growing your business, growing your brand, making you - you.” - Kristin Lee“Every situation can provide a new challenge… We can always get better, and I’m not afraid to change or update something that doesn’t work, just because we’ve done it ‘that way’ for so long.” - Kristin LeeResources Mentioned:
KLBM
Kristin Lee Clubhouse
Connect and engage with Kristin on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook. Check out http://klbmllc.com/ and learn more about their world class business management. Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 18, 2021 • 42min
681: Mashup | Make Your Money Work For You (ft. Jonathan Krueger, Jason Hartman, & Daniel Blue)
Jonathan Krueger, founder of LionsGate Advisors, Jason Hartman, founder of Platinum Properties Investor Network, Inc. and Daniel Blue, President of Quest Education, share their tips for financial success.Key Takeaways:
You have to confront your negative worldview toward money. Money is neutral. How you use it determines whether it is good or bad.
The media focuses on cyclical markets, but most of the world is a linear real estate market.
You must duplicate yourself to continue growing.
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Aug 17, 2021 • 40min
680: Gordon Henry | How to Make Your Small Business Thrive
As a small business, how do you stand out in a crowded marketplace? Gordon Henry is a master at building businesses from good to great. Gordon is the Chief Strategy Officer of Thryv, Inc. a company giving small businesses the software and resources they need to excel. His experience also includes his time as chief marketing officer for Yellowbook, where he managed print and online products for the company’s 700,000 advertisers and 5,000-member salesforce. Gordon was credited with building the company’s brand into a household name growing it from $500 million in revenue to $2 billion.Let’s tune in and learn how to stand out and make your small business thrive. Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 04:30] Opening Segment
I introduce today’s guest, Gordon Henry
Bio
Gordon gives us some background on her story
Athletic in school
An early interest in journalism
Moving into marketing
The inspiration for journalism
Gordon talks about his pivot into marketing
[04:31 - 20:01] How to Make Your Small Business Thrive
Gordon talks about the biggest changes in marketing
No more friction in the process
Biggest mistakes and wins in small businesses during the pandemic
A look at the service sector
Communicating with clients effectively
The importance of CRM
Building confidence
Gordon shares about the mission behind Thryv
Generating leads for small businesses
Your database is key
When it’s time to implement this tool
A word from our sponsors
[20:02 - 29:38] Gordon Henry on Building Your Network
How Gordon recommends to maintain your own personal touch
Examples and advice
Who you know or what you know?
The importance of mentors
The value of your own network of peers
Gordon’s thoughts on paid masterminds and networking
How networking impacted Gordon’s journey
More the way than the what
Advice for young people on their business path
The example of fighter pilots
[29:39 - 38:34] Closing Segment
ThE RaNDoM RoUnD
How to engage with Gordon
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “If you’re a business that wants to be relevant in 2021 and going forward you have to be communicating with people on their smartphone…” - Gordon Henry “The mission we really set out was to empower small businesses to be able to compete in this landscape and do it at a price point they can handle.” - Gordon HenryResources Mentioned: Thryv PayConnect and engage with Gordon directly at gordon.henry@thryv.com or on LinkedIn. Check out the website https://corporate.thryv.com/ and make your business thrive! Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 16, 2021 • 33min
679: Genecia Alluora | No Other Choice but to Succeed
It’s time to go from ‘what if’ to ‘what’s next?’ Genecia Alluora is a former Miss Singapore and the Founder of Soul Rich Woman,South East Asia's leading network for female entrepreneurs connecting 12,000+ women and 200,000 subscribers across the region. Genecia believes that networks help women to build their brand recognition and online reputation as a leader. Her goal is to get them more customers, confidence and credibility - while making a positive impact in the world, with her work greatly influencing Malaysia, Philippines, Vietnam, and Indonesia.So much practical wisdom today. Let’s get right into the episode and learn more from Genecia how having no other choice but to succeed will push you to go all in and all out!Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 04:58] Opening Segment
I introduce today’s guest, Genecia Alluora
Bio
Genecia gives us some background on her story
Supporting herself through school
Taking up and teaching unique certifications
Bullied in school for not having the newest stuff
[04:59 - 20:17] No Other Choice but to Succeed
Genecia talks about going from survival to building bigger things
Leaving a profession to join as Miss Singapore
The impact of her network
Overcoming the insecurity to pursue something uncomfortable
Grit and determination
Taught the value of exchange
Genecia shares her thoughts on risk
Getting passed the what if to what’s next
Go all in and all out
Overcoming something bigger than your capacity
Resourcefulness and visualization
Practical example
[20:18 - 25:45] Own and Love the F Word
How Genecia is helping other women take control of their success
Inspired by a life of freedom
Crossing the million dollar line
Showing others it’s possible
A word from our sponsors
How to get started
Start with the end in mind
The importance of pivoting online
Visualize your ideal then reverse engineer
[25:46 - 32:17] Closing Segment
Who you know or what you know?
The analogy of an author
Genecia’s top networking tip
- Be yourself
ThE RaNDoM RoUnD
How to engage with Genecia
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “Turn your mess into your message…” - Genecia Alluora “I really believe in taking risks, because that's what life is all about… Because what's a breakthrough when there is no risk involved?” - Genecia Alluora“Is it that I'm limited by my limitations, or am I limited by my resourcefulness?” - Genecia Alluora Resources Mentioned: Soul WhyConnect and engage with Genecia on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter. Check out https://www.soulrichwoman.com/ and become the entrepreneur you were meant to be. Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 14, 2021 • 21min
678: Casey Patterson | Emmy Nominated Producer on Making Something Bigger than Yourself
Longevity in making something great is not only about the quality of the product but the quality of the experience and a love for the people you do it with.Casey Patterson is an executive producer who has been nominated for four Emmy awards and two PJ Awards, and head of Casey Patterson entertainment. She has created an array of groundbreaking programming including the breakout hit-series Lip Sync Battle, Netflix's A Very Murray Christmas, Spike's One Night Only: Alec Baldwin, Rock the Troops with Dwayne Johnson's Seven Bucks Productions, The Concert of the Century at the White House, Saturday Night Live 25th Anniversary Special, and so much more! An incredible guest today. Let’s jump right in and learn how this Emmy Nominated Producer accomplished her dreams by doing something bigger than herself.Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 05:15] Opening Segment
I introduce today’s guest, Casey Patterson
Bio
Casey gives us some background on her story
Influenced and inspired by MTV
A movement for adolescents
A part of something bigger
Growing up in St. Croix and England
[05:16 - 12:41] Doing Something Bigger than Yourself
Starting a career in entertainment as a talent booker
Being moved by content
The usual career path
Making something the talent wants to do
Building authority and experience
How Casey made the leap into management
A value for the voice of the demographic
Best idea wins - spot bonus
How relationships played a huge role in Casey’s career
The importance of like minded people
A word from our sponsors
[12:42 - 17:07] Love the Story You’re A Part of
Casey shares what drives her to find success
A love for creators and the creative process
How to have longevity
Work with the people you adore
Quality of product and experience
[17:08 - 20:15] Closing Segment
The story and impact behind the recent Emmy nomination
How to engage with Casey
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “I felt like I was a part of something bigger than myself… That was my first real understanding into the context of what a good brand really is and that is to stand for something bigger than just the product.” - Casey Patterson“You have to love the community and you have to love the content and you have to respect that connection which is precious…” - Casey Patterson“I think it’s important to carve out enough time and breathing room when making things to enjoy the making of things and enjoy the people you’re doing it with.” - Casey PattersonConnect and engage with Casey on Instagram and Twitter. Go to http://caseypattersonent.com/ for more upcoming and exciting content.Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 13, 2021 • 10min
677: BYN Breakdown | You Don't Have to Be the Expert
Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website a travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 12, 2021 • 38min
676: Joe Keohane | The Power of Talking to Strangers
In an increasingly isolated and suspicious society, we may be losing out on an incredible superpower that opens doors and actively improves our lives - the ability to talk to strangers.Joe Keohane is a New York-based writer and editor who has held high-level editorial positions with, or written for, Esquire, Medium, Entrepreneur, The New York Times, the Boston Globe, the New Yorker, and New York Magazine writing on everything from politics, to travel, to social science, business, and technology. He is now the author of his first book, The Power of Strangers: The Benefits of Connecting in a Suspicious World.Let’s dive right in and learn from Joe how the power of talking to strangers can not only build your network, but directly affect you as a person. Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 06:29] Opening Segment
I introduce today’s guest, Joe Keohane
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Joe gives us some background on his story
Growing up in a social family
Athletic as a kid
Falling in with the artistic crowd
Going into the job world
[06:30 - 18:50] The Power of Talking to Strangers
Joe talks about his start into writing
How Joe began to network
Writing to other writers about their work
Joe’s college experience
Joe talks about how he got networking for writing
Going to people who are doing what you want
Sticking with the responsive people
It should be a pleasurable experience
Follow your curiosity not an agenda
A word from our sponsors
[18:51 - 33:29] The Benefits of Connecting in a Suspicious World
The inspiration for the book
The rise of isolation
The benefits of talking to strangers
The individual benefits
The social benefits
The example of Braver Angles
Talking to people who disagree with you
Talking to people to expand yourself
[33:30 - 37:29] Closing Segment
Who you know or what you know?
Without who you know, what you know makes no difference
We are social creatures
ThE RanDoM RoUnD
How to engage with Joe
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “I haven’t applied for a job in 10 years… My network does everything for me, it’s amazing.” - Joe Keohane“People fail at networking when they think it’s like eating your vegetables, it should be pleasurable, and indulging your curiosity.” - Joe Keohane“If you want to talk to someone you have to be willing to change, you have to be open to what they’re saying… a real conversation can actually change you.” - Joe KeohaneResources Mentioned:
The Power of Talking to Strangers
Conversation - Theodore Zeldin
Religion for Atheists
Connect and engage with Joe on Twitter and LinkedIn. Go to https://joekeohane.net/ to learn more about the power of talking to strangers. Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 11, 2021 • 47min
675: Mashup | Starting Young ft. Caleb Maddix, Mikaila Ulmer, Casey Adams
Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischapell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 10, 2021 • 36min
674: Ryan Wenger | How to Know When to Pivot
As an entrepreneur, you know that the key to the success of any venture or project is knowing when it’s time to pivot and being intentional about it. Ryan Wenger, LA Magazine featured ‘superlawyer’ turned travel business innovator, is the Founder and CEO of WhereTo, a travel business manager for travel business managers.Ryan is on a mission to make traveling cheaper and easier for all people. He has raised over $10 million in venture capital, brought together a team of world class engineers and executives, and helped build two platforms used by millions, one of which was acquired by Flight Centre.Let’s dig into this episode and learn more from Ryan about how to know when it’s time to pivot, and how to do it effectively. Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 07:12] Opening Segment
I introduce today’s guest, Ryan Wenger
Want better interviews? Go to Guestio.com
Ryan gives us some background on his story
Growing up in Woodstock, New York
Parents’ career and lifestyle
High School experience
College experience
Going into Law
[07:13 - 18:04] How to Know When to Pivot
Ryan shares about his experience transitioning from law
Always experimental at heart
The inspiration to go into ‘travel’
Getting investors through telling stories
Building a new platform
Building and launching process
Getting passed the learning curves
The story of going viral and getting millions of users
Getting key partnerships
How to know when to pivot
A glaringly obvious point
Put your problems into perspective
A word from our sponsors
[18:05 - 26:44] How to Pivot Well
Getting into uncomfortable positions to move forward
The key to success
Playing the numbers game
How relationships come into play
Being a good networker
Ryan’s partnership experience
The levels of investors
How to know when to hand over leadership
Knowing when someone can do a better job
[26:45 - 34:34] Closing Segment
What’s next for Ryan?
Getting acquired by Flight Centre
Merging strengths
Seeing it all stand on its own
Who you know or what you know?
Your network is what helps or hurts your company
It’s ok to start from zero if you put in the work
ThE RanDoM RoUnD
How to engage with Ryan
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “I loved jumping into ideas and seeing if I could bring them to light.” - Ryan Wenger“You have to take an honest look at your problems and think about the pivot opportunity and weigh the cost and the benefits.” - Ryan WengerResources Mentioned:
WhereTo
WhereFor
The Lean Startup
The Art of the Start
Connect and engage with Ryan on LinkedIn and Twitter. Check out https://ryanwenger.com/ to get your hands on some more awesome content and tips.Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 9, 2021 • 37min
673: Dr. Ruth Gotian | The Success Factor
Everybody has the potential for success, but too few actually develop the plan. Dr. Ruth Gotian is the Chief Learning Officer and Assistant Professor of Education in Anesthesiology.She has been named by the journal Nature and Columbia University as an expert in mentorship and leadership development. She is also a contributor to Forbes and Psychology Today where she publishes her research about the mindset and skill set of peak performers, including Nobel laureates, astronauts and Olympic champions which has also inspired her newest book, The Success Factor.Jump in as we learn more from Dr. Gotian about the success factor and the mindset we need to be high achievers.Things you will learn in this episode: [00:01 - 05:54] Opening Segment
I introduce today’s guest, Dr. Ruth Gotian
Dr. Gotian gives us some background on his story
Always the one who was different
Growing up during specific gender roles
Career today
Surrounded by successful people
Building on experiences
[05:55 - 14:52] Opening Your Mind to Find Truth
Exposure to new ideas during college
Dr. Gotian’s college experience
The value of learning HOW to think
Getting her doctorate
Parsing through what is ‘true’
Textbooks are not gospel
There are no one right ways to do something
Navigating a breakdown of world views
Trial and error
Expose yourself to different sources
Making your own informed decision
A word from our sponsors
[14:53 - 24:52] The Success Factor
The pillars of high achievers
Intrinsically motivated
A high level of perseverance
Strong foundation
Everyone can become a high achiever
You need to have a plan
Passion audit
How to see the passion in others
See what they do during down time
Not what but WHO you want to be
What problem do you want to solve
[24:53 - 36:01] Closing Segment
Who you know or what you know?
Who is critical because they open doors
Dr. Gotian’s example
Choosing the right advice
Do your research
Do what’s important
Freedom vs. commitment
The importance of mentorship and masterminds
Mix things up
ThE RanDoM RoUnD
How to engage with Dr. Gotian
Links below
Final words
Tweetable Quotes: “I quickly realized that people’s definition of what I should do was based on their limited view. But the more I saw and the more I talked to people… I got to see what else is out there.” - Dr. Ruth Gotian “I think everybody has the potential but not everyone has the plan… What is that blueprint for success that you can adapt to your own life?” - Dr. Ruth Gotian“If you want to have impact, you need to do something important.” - Dr. Ruth GotianResources Mentioned:
The Success Factor
Take the Passion Audit
Connect and engage with Dr. Gotian on Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn. Check out https://www.ruthgotian.com/ to learn from the Top30 Management Thinker. Did you love the value that we are putting out in the show? LEAVE A REVIEW and tell us what you think about the episode so we can continue putting out great content just for you! Share this episode and help someone who wants to connect with world-class people. Jump on over to travischappell.com/makemypodcast and let my team make you your very own show!If you want to learn how to build YOUR network, check out my website travischappell.com. You can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Be sure to join The Lounge to become part of the community that’s setting up REAL relationships that add value and create investments.Check out FranBridge Consulting for premier non-food franchise opportunities: travischappell.com/franbridgeOur Sponsors:* Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


