

The Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast
Pete Scazzero
Many pastors and church leaders today feel overwhelmed, exhausted, and frustrated that their churches don't seem to be making mature disciples. The Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast explores the paradigms and practices leaders need to transform their church culture and multiply deeply changed disciples.
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Mar 17, 2026 • 31min
The Scandal Beneath All the Church Scandals (And What to Do About It)
A look beneath church scandals to the quieter formation failures that allow them to grow. Topics include how gifting can outpace character, the slow creep of compromises, and global risks to the church’s witness. He outlines four inner-life pillars like facing hidden wounds, integrating marriage or singleness into leadership, deepening union with Jesus, and practicing Sabbath rhythms.

Mar 3, 2026 • 33min
Family Systems: The Invisible Force Shaping Your Church
Explores how family systems theory explains why anxiety spreads quickly in churches and teams. Discusses differentiation and staying connected without losing yourself. Covers multigenerational transmission, triangles that spread conflict, and the cost of emotional cutoffs. Highlights practical tools like genograms, a family-of-origin test, and prompts for inner transformation as essential leadership work.

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Feb 17, 2026 • 33min
Why Some Churches Thrive and Others Split
They explore why churches split even with strong theology, arguing fractures come from lacking emotional maturity. They highlight practical skills like incarnational listening, clear expectations, and clean conflict. Stories from leadership failures and transformation illustrate how relational formation can prevent breakdowns. Leaders are urged to build generational health through boundaries, honest conversations, and ongoing formation.

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Feb 3, 2026 • 34min
Why Emotional Health is the Missing Link in the Global Church
A conversation about why emotional health is the overlooked key to real spiritual maturity. Personal crisis and inner work reveal how unresolved wounds weaken leadership and discipleship. Historical theology and practical practices are explored to reclaim whole, feeling-bodied faith. Calls to slow down, set healthy limits, and reshape church culture for deeper transformation.

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Jan 20, 2026 • 34min
5 Planning Mistakes That Kept Me Stuck—for Years
Explore the five planning mistakes that can trap leaders, including insufficient preparation and flippantly defining success. Discover the importance of corporate discernment and grounding practices that help teams hear Jesus. Learn how to prioritize key meetings and develop a unique vision anchored in real goals and timelines. Hear about the significance of personal growth in leadership and how mistakes can transform into opportunities for trust and clarity in ministry.

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Jan 6, 2026 • 25min
The Monastic Pastor: Recovering the Church’s Ancient DNA for Today
Explore the fascinating journey of church leadership from ancient monastic roots to today's challenges. Discover how 1,100 years of monastic training shaped influential leaders and what we can learn from the Desert Fathers. Delve into the concept of 'active contemplatives' and the monk-to-bishop model, highlighting figures like Augustine and Benedict. Reflect on the need for renewal outside traditional structures and the role of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship in filling gaps in current leader formation. A compelling call to reconnect with the essence of spiritual leadership!

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Dec 23, 2025 • 31min
Embracing Holy Interruptions: Leadership Lessons from the Christmas Story
Explore the concept of interruptions as divine invitations from God. Discover how the Christmas story is rich with examples of disrupted lives and leadership lessons. Learn from the Magi's costly journey and contrast it with Herod's rejection of God's call. Emphasizing Mary's radical acceptance, the conversation offers three practices to embrace interruptions: stop and surrender, cultivate silence and stillness, and listen attentively for God's guidance. Reflect on how to transform life's disruptions into opportunities for spiritual growth.

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Dec 9, 2025 • 31min
Do the Work Before the Work
Explore the radical idea of doing inner work before stepping into leadership roles. Discover how Jesus exemplified solitude and Spirit-led decisions as essential to integrity in leadership. Listen to the poignant tale of The Woodcarver, revealing practices of mindfulness and effortless creation. Learn practical tips for maintaining spaciousness amidst life's chaos, and embrace your unique path free from external pressures. Get inspired to assess your inner life and recognize the gifts in your context and limits.

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Nov 25, 2025 • 46min
What's Next for EHD: A Candid Conversation
In a revealing conversation with Drew Hyun, the new President of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship and founding lead pastor of Hope Church NYC, the focus is on fresh leadership and deep discipleship. Drew shares his journey from New Life Fellowship to leading EHD, emphasizing the crucial role of emotional health in leadership, especially post-COVID. He discusses the importance of inner work during succession and offers insights for younger leaders entering significant roles. The conversation is both hopeful and inspiring for those navigating leadership transitions.

Nov 10, 2025 • 32min
The Joy & Pain of Leadership Succession
Leadership succession reveals a complex blend of joy and pain. A heartfelt story of passing the baton highlights the emotional turmoil involved. Emphasizing stewardship over ownership, the host explores the deep grief of letting go. Key lessons include the importance of inner work and recognizing limits. Newfound freedom enables creative pursuits, and there's hope for better succession practices in ministries. Ultimately, it's about trusting the process and supporting the next generation in a meaningful way.


