

Where Finance Finds Its Future
Future of Finance
The New Face of Finance, Where Finance Finds Its Future. Future of Finance has one overriding goal. It is to host meetings (at the moment virtual meetings) that bring together long established members of the financial services industry (banks, brokers, asset managers, insurers, financial market infrastructures) with entrepreneurs (challenger banks, technology companies and FinTechs) and market authorities (central banks, regulators and policymakers) to explore how the financial services industry can grow faster by being more open, more innovative and more trustworthy. If you would like to get in touch about featuring on a podcast, please email wendy.gallagher@futureoffinance.biz Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Aug 24, 2022 • 55min
The blockchain protocol that has put digital identity at the heart of its strategy
Concordium is a Layer 1, Proof-of-Stake blockchain with its own cryptocurrency. So far, so normal. But Concordium also has a fascinating twist: it incorporates digital identification functionality at the level of the protocol. If predictions of the eventual universality of digital identity are even half-fulfilled, this feature will give Concordium an edge over other Layer 1 blockchains as the digital economy makes use of more efficient, privacy-protecting methods of customer due diligence. The company has raised US$50 million from a small group of investors, whose number includes Lars Seier Christensen, co-founder and until 2016 co-CEO of Saxo Bank, who has identified blockchain as a forcing house for entirely new ways of doing business. Concordium also benefits from its relationships with Aarhus University in Denmark and ETH University in Zurich, where academic researchers are working not only technical issues but also on the governance issues which have plagued Proof of Stake blockchains. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, spoke to Kåre Kjelstrøm, a veteran of Travis Kalanick start-ups Uber and Cloud Kitchens, who is now chief technology officer at Concordium. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 12, 2022 • 1h 3min
10x lowers the cost of curiosity about digital transformation
10xbanking is not your average provider of Cloud-based banking Software-as-a-Service (SaaS). The company is the brainchild of former Barclays Group CEO Antony Jenkins, who has since leaving the British bank in 2015 embraced the idea of transforming the industry by full digitisation of its infrastructure and operating platforms. 10x has raised more than $252 million to its Series C in June last year, giving it the capital backing (and in some cases the business) of BlackRock, J. P. Morgan Chase, Westpac, Nationwide Building Society, Ping An and the Canadian Pension Plan Investment Board. If 10x can succeed in its ambition of digitally transforming major incumbent banks its management believes it cannot fail to deliver for the neo- and challenger banks that have used their freedom from legacy technology to chip away at the revenues and franchises of long-established financial institutions. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, spoke to Leyda Glyptis, now Chief Client Officer at 10x, but who was previously CEO of the 11:FS Foundry and a veteran of digital innovation roles at BNY Mellon, Qatar National Bank and Sapient. A full transcript of the interview is available below. Click on any question to be taken to the point in the interview where the question is answered. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 18, 2022 • 1h 14min
Why the case for regulating cryptocurrencies is becoming unanswerable
The peer-to-peer system of cash outlined by Satoshi Nakamoto in his famous paper of October 2008 did not mention regulators or regulations. But its ambition of dispensing with trusted third parties did mean jettisoning regulated financial institutions. Nearly 14 years on, only the irreconcilable libertarian wing of the Blockchain industry still considers regulation of cryptocurrencies to be unthinkable. Major cryptocurrency intermediaries are getting regulated already. Two of the major cryptocurrency exchanges (Coinbase and FTX) have multiple regulatory licences and even Binance has secured a licence in France and applied for licences in Bahrain and Dubai. Likewise, of a list of 100 digital wallet custodians, 42 have secured or applied for regulatory licences. Nor is it true to say any longer that cryptocurrencies are unregulated. The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) extended Know Your Client (KYC), Anti-Money Laundering (AML), Countering the Financing of Terrorism (CFT) and sanctions screening obligations to the cryptocurrency markets as long ago as October 2018. Grumbling by cryptocurrency brokers and exchanges about the application of the Travel Rule – which obliges them to share identifying information about buyers and sellers of cryptocurrencies – is merely the latest instalment of this long-running set of obligations. Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) now have to be filed. Besides, regulators are losing patience with the seemingly unending series of scams, hacks and thefts of cryptocurrency. Since hackers made off with US$500 million of Bitcoins from Mt Gox back in 2014, thefts of cryptocurrency have remained a constant. According to Chainalysis, thieves stole $3.2 billion worth of cryptocurrency in 2021 and another US$1.3 billion in the first quarter of this year, most of it from Decentralised Finance (DeFi) protocols. Chainalysis reports an average of 66 crypto-currency thefts a year since Mt Gox. But thieves are not the only people taxing retail cryptocurrency investors. Almost all the rewards of cryptocurrency trading go to professionals, including via pump-and-dump schemes. So it is not surprising that regulators are clamping down on the sale and distribution of crypto-currencies. Singapore has been particularly vocal about discouraging sales of cryptocurrencies to retail investors but the United Kingdom is now pondering similar restrictions. In emerging market economies, cryptocurrencies are used routinely to bypass capital controls or evade tax. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 8, 2022 • 1h 8min
Is it the destiny of Blockchain to become the Open Infrastructure?
A Future of Finance Webinar that investigates whether the adoption and impact of Blockchain could be accelerated by pursuing an infrastructural strategy that lowers the cost of adoption, recovers the openness of the early Internet and facilitates inter-operability between different networks. A major economic mystery is why a general-purpose technology such as digital computing has not transformed productivity. After all, the marginal cost of producing further copies of software is effectively zero. Part of the answer, despite 25 years of the Internet and open-source software, is that software lacks an open infrastructure akin to the electricity grid or the road network. A true infrastructure is a shared and (crucially) open means to many ends. It creates value obliquely rather than vectorally, by enabling third party businesses and entrepreneurs to create new and innovative products and services on a reliable and low-cost foundation. Instead, the value created by digital technology is currently being privatised, chiefly by the massive data extraction platforms such as Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Uber and Airbnb, which have used network effects to build powerful monopolies. Although they do provide platforms for third-party businesses to advertise and sell, they take a turn on transactions, extract data from transactions for sale to third parties and suppress innovation through a combination of patents, purchases and the blight cast on innovation by their sheer size and invulnerability. A true infrastructure would spawn a constant series of innovations, as the electricity grid did and does (including, ironically, digital computing). And there are now signs that just such an infrastructure is coming into being in the financial markets. Open Banking and Open Finance are prising open the closed customer bases and data sets of incumbent firms, presaging the emergence of an Open Data economy in which customers rather than companies drive the evolution of economies. Forward-thinking financial institutions (such as LSEG) are embracing this shift from data platforms to open data networks by introducing their clients to third party product and service providers via a blockchain-based network. Blockchain is an obvious rather than inspired choice to fulfil the role. It is intrinsically decentralised and networked. At its heart lies the concept of simultaneous data-sharing. So Blockchain is the natural infrastructural underpinning of the networked markets that are now primed to succeed the platforms controlled by the large technology companies. Unfortunately, Blockchain has until recently succumbed to the same supply-side economics that has prevented previous digital technologies from transforming productivity: networks are fragmented by incompatible protocols designed to privatise and protect the profits of successful blockchain ventures. But there is work in hand today that is enabling blockchain to rediscover its original vocation. Efforts to bridge protocols by agreed data communication standards is one part of it. But there are also collaborative public-private enterprises such as the LACChain Alliance in Latin America, Alastria in Spain and the Blockchain Services Infrastructure (EBSI) in the European Union (EU) which aim to provide open, low cost blockchain infrastructures to innovative businesses. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 29, 2022 • 43min
How VP Bank is tokenising collectibles for clients of its private banking services
A Future of Finance interview with Thomas von Hohenhau and Marcel Fleisch from V Bank.Liechtenstein is one financial jurisdiction which has embraced the blockchain enthusiastically. It has since January 2020 had in place comprehensive legislation covering all aspects of tokenisation in the shape of the Token and Trustworthy Technologies Service Provider Act (TVTG). The Act is, says VP Bank, one of the factors that has made possible its own rapidly developing asset tokenisation service. The Lichtenstein private bank sees the tokenisation of collectibles in particular as a major new business opportunity in the immediate future – a work of art belonging to a client was tokenised earlier this year - and is already exploring the tokenisation of real estate and privately managed assets too. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance., spoke to Thomas von Hohenhau, Head of Client Solutions and a Member of the Group Executive Management at VP Bank in Liechtenstein, and Marcel Fleisch, Chief Product Officer at VP Bank. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 28, 2022 • 1h 12min
Is the digital asset custody industry ready to grow up?
Safe custody is the crucial service for crypto-currency investors. The theft, loss or destruction of the unique private keys to the digital wallets in which cryptocurrencies are held is irreversible and – unlike conventional cash deposits - they are not insured by any commercial provider or guaranteed by any government or government agency. Data analytics firm Chainalysis estimates that a fifth of all Bitcoins ever mined (or somewhere between 2.78 and 3.79 million of them, worth over US$200 billion) are now lost. Losses to hacks (such as the US$97 million stolen from Liquid Exchange in October 2021, the US$200 million stolen from Bitmart in December 2021, the US$320 million lost via the Wormhole bridge in February 2022 and the record US$624 million taken from the Ronin Network in March 2022) remain disturbingly frequent. Although some retail investors have ignored these risks, institutional investors cannot. These facts alone explain the two distinct surges in the foundation of digital asset custodians. The first was at the height of the Initial Coin Offering (ICO) boom and early crypto-currency exchange hacks in 2017-18, when no less than 65 specialist custodians were founded, including well-recognised brands such as Copper, Fidelity Digital Assets, HEX Trust, Komainu and Propine and leading custody technology vendors such as Fireblocks. The second boom occurred in 2021, as the first institutional investors such as Ruffer and MassMutual invested in crypto-currency. The two biggest global custodians in the world, BNY Mellon and State Street, found themselves pressed by watching buy-side clients to provide a crypto-currency custody service. A further impetus to invest was imparted by the leading crypto-currency exchanges, which launched independent, institutional grade and (most importantly) regulated custody services. Coinbase, for example, has established an independently capitalised institutional custody business (Coinbase Trust Company) that is regulated by the New York Department of Financial Services (NYDFS). A third threat to the established custodians has come from specialist, independent, regulated, institutional grade custodians such as HEX Trust, Komainu, Standard Custody & Trust and Anchorage Digital. According to Blockdata, another US$1 billion of venture capital money was invested in digital asset custody businesses in 2021, taking the total raised since 2017 to US$4.6 billion. In its most recent fund-raising, technology vendor Fireblocks was valued at US$8 billion. In its last fund-raising, Copper was valued at US$3 billion. In a low margin business, these valuations indicate high growth expectations, and global custodian banks and central securities depositories (CSDs) are right to be concerned that they might be disrupted or even bypassed. That concern ought to become acute if the crypto-currency boom is followed by an equivalent boom in security tokens, though there are at present plenty of bystanders. London-based token exchange Archax is building its own CSD because no existing CSD can meet the needs of its customers. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 28, 2022 • 1h 14min
CBDCs are poised to administer the coup de grace to the payments business of the banks
Cross-border payments are, in the now familiar mantra of the G20, slow, expensive, opaque and inaccessible. This matters because, despite a slowdown in the rate of growth of world trade, cross-border payments are becoming more important, not less. Remittances and e-commerce are more than making up for any shortfalls in exchanges of physical goods. Consultants BCG predict the value of cross-border payments will increase from US$150 trillion in 2017 to US$250 trillion by 2027 – a two thirds increase in just a decade. As it happens, 2027 is the date set by the Financial Stability Board (FSB) for the achievement of four quantitative targets designed not only to cut the costs, increase the speed and enhance the visibility of the costs of cross-border payments but widen access to competitive cross-border payments services as well. The four targets are just one of 19 “building blocks” laid down by The Committee on Payments and Market Infrastructures (CPMI) in July 2020 as the foundations of a better, faster and cheaper cross-border payments system for the world economy. Unfortunately, the targets are also the only product of the 19 building blocks which can readily be grasped amid the miasma of surveys, analyses, consultations, task groups, workshops, liaisons, hackathons and vague but extendable deadlines which surround alleged progress in other areas. Yet fast and measurable progress is desperately needed. Cross-border payments represent a continuous and hefty toll on international trade and capital flows. Transactions can take several days, cost ten times as much as a domestic payment and devour 10 per cent of the face value of a payment. Although the work of the FSB reads as if the problem is extremely complicated – and it is, not least because of the number and range of the parties involved – the origins of this tax on commerce are now well-understood. The CPMI labels them as seven “frictions”: legacy technology; long transaction chains; funding costs; weak competition; fragmented and truncated data formats; complex compliance checks; and limited operating hours. The G20 made fixing these frictions a priority. In many jurisdictions, competition to provide cross-border payments services cannot work because cost opacity means payers cannot distinguish between the costs of different ways of paying; most domestic banks can do no better than take prices from a coterie of 15 major global banks; and non-bank service providers are denied access to the central bank real-time gross settlement (RTGS) system. Likewise, replacing laborious customer due diligence tests with digital identities is an obvious way to cut costs dramatically and speed up the processing of payments, but the FSB now seems more interested in creating centralised data utilities than in re-designing a failed procedure. Allowing assets in one jurisdiction to secure liquidity in another would not only ease cross-border payments blockages but free up resources trapped in excess liquidity buffers, but private sector initiative to solve this problem are unmentioned. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 28, 2022 • 49min
It’s time to start thinking about CBDCs as an intelligent form of QE
Part 2 of a Future of Finance interview with Vadim Sobolevski, co-founder of FutureFlow.No one central bank digital currency (CBDC) is ever quite the same as another. But so far every CBDC project has focused largely on the technicalities of making payments – by or to unbanked consumers or businesses, or between counterparties across national borders, or to prevent consumers and businesses undermining the role of central banks by making payments with alternatives such as cryptocurrencies or Stablecoins. This has confined thinking to far too narrow a range, argues Vadim Sobolevski, co-founder of FutureFlow. He thinks CBDCs have the potential to transform not just the conduct of payments, or even monetary policy, but the implementation of economic and social policy itself. CBDCs, in his view, can and should be used to manufacture credit and direct liquidity precisely where they are needed. He spoke to Future of Finance co-founder, Dominic Hobson. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 28, 2022 • 44min
KYC, AML, CFT and sanctions screening checks are a bad answer to a real problem
Part 1 of a Future of Finance interview with Vadim Sobolevski, co-founder of FutureFlow. Many business decisions are baffling. But on the face of it none is as bewildering as the decision by banks, asset managers, wealth managers, private banks, insurance companies and FinTechs to spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year on Know Your Client (KYC), Anti Money Laundering (AML), Countering the Financing of Terrorism (CFT) and sanctions screening checks that are not only expensive but useless. The answer is that regulated firms are buying insurance against the wrath of the regulators, and data vendors are delighted to provide it by plying them with high-priced but ineffective data on bad actors in financial markets. Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, asked Vadim Sobolevski, co-founder of FutureFlow, whether there is a better way. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 15, 2022 • 36min
The BSTX blockchain exchange is betting on a blend of the old and the new
Future of Finance interview with Lisa Fall, CEO at BSTX and Jay Fraser, Head of Strategy at BSTX.BSTX is the first exchange based on blockchain to be fully regulated by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and licensed to operate on a national scale. It took the founders of the Boston-based exchange years to get there but they were clear from the outset that fully regulated status is the key to success. It certainly makes it easier to engage regulated brokers and market-makers as well as institutional investors. So does allowing those trading firms to communicate with each other via the FIX protocol and clear and settle trades through the traditional securities and funds clearing house (NSCC) and the American central securities depository (DTC). Dominic Hobson, co-founder of Future of Finance, spoke to Lisa Fall, CEO, and Jay Fraser, Director of Strategic Partnerships at the Boston-based exchange. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


