

The Deep Dive
Philip McKenzie
The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.
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Mar 26, 2026 • 54min
Episode 253: Crafting Stories of The Future w/ Betty Sue Flowers
Philip welcomes Betty Sue Flowers, author of Scenarios: Crafting and Using Stories of the Future to Change the Present to the show. In their conversation they discuss the power of stories and narrative to influence the stories we tell to shape our future.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Jesse Jackson
Jesse Jackson’s 1984 Democratic National Convention Speech
Jesse Jackson’s 1988 Democratic National Convention Speech
Betty Sue’s Drop:
Barbara Jordan
Barbara Jordan On Nixon Articles of Impeachment Special Guest: Betty Sue Flowers.

Mar 19, 2026 • 53min
Episode 252: When Trees Testify w/ Dr. Beronda Montgomery
Philip welcomes plant biologist Dr. Beronda Montgomery, author of Lessons From Plans and When Trees Testity: Science, Wisdom, History and America’s Black Botanical Legacy to the show. In their conversation, they trace the intimate relationship between Black people and the natural world and our historical legacy as told through America’s trees.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Museum of Innocence – Orhan Pamuk (author) TV series (Netflix)
https://www.masumiyetmuzesi.org/en
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34692373/
Beronda’s Drop:
Family Tree – Jennifer MacArthur (documentary)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32034856/
https://thefilmcollaborative.org/films/familytree

Mar 12, 2026 • 1h 11min
Episode 251: No One Leaves Clean w/ Yaw Ofosu-Asare
Philip welcomes designer Yaw Ofosu-Asare, author of No One Leaves Clean: Living, Breathing and Surviving the Post-Colonial Economy to the show. In their episode they discuss how Africa is reshaping itself in a post-colonial reality, how we navigate identity and the power of culture to understand our past and future.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
In Search of the Black Fantastic – Richard Iton
Yaw’s Drop:
Frantz Fanon
Kwasi Wiredu
The Beautyful Ones Not Yet Born – Ayi Kvei Armah Special Guest: Yaw Ofosu-Asare.

Mar 5, 2026 • 1h 1min
Episode 250: Getting Lost with Lost Maps w/ James Cheshire
Philip welcomes cartographer James Cheshire, author of The Library of Lost Maps to the show. In their episode they discuss the history of lost maps, the cultural relevance of maps and whether they still can help us navigate the worlds we inhabit.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Pole to Pole with Will Smith (Disney+)
Jame’s Drop: Encouragement to explore thrift shops/old bookstores for maps and other “lost things”

Feb 26, 2026 • 1h 8min
Episode 249: Culture & The Rules That Make Us w/ Oliver Sweet
Philip welcomes Oliver Sweet, author of The Rules That Make Us: How Culture Shapes the Way We Act, Think, Believe and Buy. In their conversation they discuss the complexity of culture and how it impacts our thinking across a variety of criteria.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Wet Leg (Spotify) https://open.spotify.com/artist/2TwOrUcYnAlIiKmVQkkoSZ?si=JgS3qvlKTUKaYC_9rQimPQ
Oliver’s Drop: Barry Can’t Swim (Spotify) https://open.spotify.com/artist/0vTVU0KH0CVzijsoKGsTPl?si=oPiThhgXQLWjUkjAZAJqnQSpecial Guest: Oliver Sweet.

Feb 5, 2026 • 1h 7min
Episode 248: True Human w/ Samantha Sweetwater
Philip welcomes Samantha Sweetwater, author of True Human: Reimagining Ourselves at the End of the World. In their conversation, they explore the meaning of what it is to human, how we navigate death and what future(s) can we build.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Kings of Convenience (Spotify)
Samantha’s Drop:
Jacob Collier (Spotify) Special Guest: Samantha Sweetwater.

Jan 29, 2026 • 56min
Episode 247: Artificial Humanities w/ Nina Begus
Philip welcome Nina Begus, author of Artificial Humanities: A Fictional Perspectives on Language in AI to the show. In their conversation, they discuss the important role that humanities can play in how AI is positioned in the world.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Andor (Disney+)
Poor Things (Disney+)
Nina’s Drop:
The Mask by Stanislaw Lem

Jan 22, 2026 • 1h 12min
Episode 246: Outgrowing Modernity with Vanessa Machado De Oliveira
Join Vanessa Machado De Oliveira, a LatinX scholar and author, as she delves into the intricacies of modernity and its impact on race and inequality. She discusses her unique upbringing and how feelings convey knowledge often ignored by academia. Exploring topics like colonial narratives, the emotional labor of translation, and the importance of resigning from extractive roles, Vanessa connects these themes to psychedelic practices and AI. Her compassionate perspective invites new dialogues around culture and technology's future.

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Jan 15, 2026 • 1h 4min
Episode 245: A Fork in the Road w/ Indy Johar
Indy Johar, co-founder of Dark Matter Labs and a public thinker, joins for a deep dive into the complexities of our future. He discusses the importance of public writing to embrace uncertainty and stimulate dialogue. Indy critiques traditional power structures and highlights the existential risks posed by AGI. He explores alternatives to societal fragility, advocating for deep relationships over superficial connections. Ultimately, he urges us to redefine what it means to be human in an age dominated by AI, promoting tenderness and relational thought.

Dec 24, 2025 • 1h 6min
Episode 244: Caught in the Streaming Wars w/ Charlotte Henry
Philip welcomes Charlotte Henry, media expert and author of Streaming Wars: How getting everything we wanted changed entertainment forever to the show. In their conversation, they trace how the rise and dominance of streaming has changed our viewing and listening habits.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Foundation (Apple TV)
Fresh Meat (Amazon Prime)
Charlotte’s Drop:
Blue Lights (Britbox)
Mythic Quest (Apple TV)


