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Anthony Hobday, Katie Langerman
A podcast about the principles and practices of interface design.
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Apr 20, 2025 • 52min
56: Navigation
Anthony and Katie discuss navigation patterns.Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Apr 6, 2025 • 41min
55: Design is Decision Making
The hosts delve into the art of decision-making in design, emphasizing how choices shape creativity. They discuss the balance of options within design systems, tackling decision fatigue and the need for clear guidelines. The evolution of interface design is explored, revealing how standardization impacts individual creativity. Finally, they illuminate the powerful connection between design and storytelling, showcasing its effects on decision-making and product success, all while sharing a light-hearted take on their podcasting journey.

Mar 16, 2025 • 45min
54: Design vs. Development
Dive into the compelling world of design and development as hosts explore their distinct challenges and collaborative dynamics. Discover how coding can enhance design skills while encountering the realities of environment setup and manual intervention in troubleshooting. The conversation sheds light on the differing workflows and the important need for empathy in fostering collaboration. With a humorous take, they discuss the risks of using design tools and their shared frustrations in the creative process.

Mar 2, 2025 • 1h 5min
53: Deep Dive on the Conceptual Model Layer with Jamie Mill
Jamie Mill, a Paris-based product designer from the UK, shares insights on the intricacies of product design. He discusses the significance of conceptual models that underpin user interactions and how these influence design decisions. Jamie delves into the complexities of e-commerce marketing analytics, explaining the nuances of measuring success through concepts like Return on Ad Spend. He also explores the evolving nature of Agile methodologies and the impact of science fiction on AI development, highlighting its ethical implications in real-world applications.

Feb 16, 2025 • 41min
52: Visual Design Techniques We Love
In a lighthearted celebration of design and creativity, the hosts share their top visual design techniques. They discuss enhancing icons with colorful backgrounds and focus outlines for better user experience. Unique cursor designs are explored, showcasing how they can boost engagement. The importance of structure in web design is emphasized with examples of effective layouts. They also dive into innovative color transitions and 'chonky' design choices that enhance visibility. Throughout, they humorously reflect on their own design challenges.

Feb 2, 2025 • 42min
51: Thoughts on the book Do Design: Why beauty is the key to everything by Alan Moore
The hosts dive into the compelling ideas from Alan Moore's book, discussing the critical role of beauty in design. They reflect on how beauty impacts creativity and collaboration, often under pressure. Curiosity emerges as a key driver in design innovation, promoting meaningful interactions. The importance of mentorship and bravely asking questions is also highlighted, revealing how these elements foster growth and engagement. Ultimately, they emphasize that true design beauty goes beyond aesthetics, rooted in thoughtful processes and genuine connections.

Jan 19, 2025 • 54min
50: Starting from Scratch vs. Improving Existing Design
Anthony and Katie discuss what it takes to start designing something from scratch compared to working on an existing product, and the upsides/downsides of both.
Hosts:
Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign
Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Jan 5, 2025 • 52min
49: Design Folklore with Guy Segal
Katie, Anthony and special guest Guy discuss design folklore: what it is, where it might come from, and how to best use it in your design practices.
Guy Segal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guysegal
Hosts:
Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign
Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Dec 22, 2024 • 36min
48: Ghosts of Software Past, Present and Future
Anthony and Katie bring on the holiday vibes by discussing the past, present and future of software design. Bah humbug!
New design systems podcast Katie mentioned: On Theme
Hosts:
Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign
Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Dec 8, 2024 • 45min
47: People We Admire
The hosts engage in a lively dialogue about gratitude and cultural differences, setting a lighthearted tone. They dive into their favorite design and development influencers, reflecting on how these figures shaped their work and philosophies. An exploration of open-source design highlights the challenges and rewards of sharing knowledge. The artistry of David Pye captivates with discussions on craftsmanship and beauty. The conversation ends with a humorous take on connecting with fans and the quirks of international shipping.


