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Anthony Hobday, Katie Langerman
A podcast about the principles and practices of interface design.
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Mar 1, 2026 • 49min
76: Visual design with Laura Sinisterra
Anthony and Katie are joined by designer Laura Sinisterra, a visual designer with a unique mathematical, geometric style. We chat about her visual style, how she might define it and what inspired it.Check out Laura's website: https://laurasinisterra.com/Follow on X: https://x.com/Lauracsc_Links mentioned:https://www.are.na/https://x.com/visakanvHosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Design Technologist: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Feb 15, 2026 • 45min
75: The AI rant episode
Anthony and Katie allow themselves a cheeky little rant about the topic on everyone's mind, AI.Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Design Technologist: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Jan 25, 2026 • 44min
74: How many icons is too many
Anthony and Katie discuss Nikita Prokopov's "It's hard to justify Tahoe icons". Article link: https://tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-icons/Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Design Technologist: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Jan 11, 2026 • 52min
73: Desktop UX
Anthony and Katie discuss Scott Jenson's talk titled "Are we stuck with the same desktop UX forever" Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fZTOjd_bOQHosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Design Technologist: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Dec 21, 2025 • 59min
72: Famous design phrases
Anthony and Katie each bring some famous design phrases to discuss. Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Design Technologist: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

Dec 7, 2025 • 49min
71: The materials interfaces are made of
Sometimes interfaces mimic physical materials like paper or metal. Anthony and Katie discuss why this might be, what kinds of materials seem most common and how this has shifted over time.Hosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Design Technologist: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman

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Nov 23, 2025 • 48min
70: Things that are easy vs. hard to design
Explore the intriguing world of design as hosts discuss the stark contrast between easy and hard tasks. Typography might seem simple in apps, but the nuances in long-form text reveal a labyrinth of challenges. Forms appear straightforward but can become convoluted in practice. The conversation delves into the misuse of notifications and the complexity of creating effective illustrations. Color palettes, stateful controls, and navigation trade-offs also emerge as surprisingly tricky components, all revealing why hard design problems leave a lasting impression.

Nov 9, 2025 • 49min
69: Practical Uses of AI for Designers
Explore how AI can enhance design practices without coding! Hosts discuss the hype around AI and its realistic applications in design. Learn about using AI for generating short copy, suggesting ideation strategies, and synthesizing user feedback. They also debate the tradeoffs between setup efforts and future efficiencies. Discover the limitations of current AI tools for designers and why the focus is more on text than visuals. Join in on the conversation about making design more efficient and the future landscape of design workflows!

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Oct 26, 2025 • 54min
68: Interface Design Assets (typefaces, imagery, icons)
Discover the intriguing world of design assets, where the blurry lines between creating and sourcing come into play. Uncover practical strategies for selecting typefaces and colors, and learn about the impact of various component libraries. Explore debates on stock photography versus custom shoots, and dive into the role of AI in illustration. Plus, find out how sound can enhance interface design. It's a captivating journey through the essentials of modern design!

Oct 12, 2025 • 1h 5min
67: Vector vs. Code Based Design Tooling with Andreas Møller
Anthony and Katie are joined by Andreas Møller, co-founder of Nordcraft. Nordcraft aims to bring design and development closer together, and as you can imagine Andreas has a unique perspective on design tools. What happens to "hand-off" when designers can get their ideas 90% there?Find Andreas on BlueskyHosts:Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: https://twitter.com/hobdaydesignKatie Langerman, Systems Designer: https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman


