

The Divine Council Worldview Podcast
Dr. Ronn Johnson
Welcome to the Divine Council Worldview Podcast, where hosts Ronn Johnson and Mike Chu honor the legacy of their late friend and colleague Dr. Michael S. Heiser (author of the best-selling book The Unseen Realm). Our interest is the Bible, studying it through the lens of its original authors and audience. We will specifically take notice of created divine beings and the role they play in the physical cosmos through the ultimate authority of Yahweh, the God of Israel. Join the fun conversation!
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May 10, 2026 • 56min
EP108: John 16: What Jesus Really Meant About the Holy Spirit
In this episode, Ronn and Mike explore the biblical and theological insights regarding John 16, the Holy Spirit and the divine council worldview. Join them as they dive deep into biblical analysis, practical theology, and insights into spiritual rebellion and divine authority.

May 3, 2026 • 1h 3min
EP107: John 15: Can a Person Stop Abiding in Christ?
In this episode, Ronn and Mike delve into significant theological themes, including the impact of Enlightenment rationalism on the supernatural worldview, the challenges faced by seminary training, and the historical context of worship. It also explores the philosophical aspects of God, the nature of covenantal relationships, and the ongoing quest for unity within the church amidst historical divisions.

Apr 26, 2026 • 1h 5min
EP106: John 14: Jesus as the Way, Truth, and Life
In this episode, Ronn and Mike discuss a new children's book on the Ten Commandments, explore the cultural context of family structures during Jesus' time, and emphasize the importance of understanding the relationship with God the Father. He delves into theological concepts such as the doctrine of two powers and the significance of knowing God relationally. The conversation also touches on the importance of humility in teaching and learning, as well as the timeline of events leading to Jesus' arrest.

Apr 19, 2026 • 1h 16min
EP105: John 13: The Dinner in Lazarus' Home
In this episode, Ronn and Mike discuss the events and conversations recorded in John 13. Ronn began by recommending that the "dinner" of John 13:2 recalled the supper hosted in Lazarus' home (as described in 12:1-8) a week prior to Jesus' crucifixion and not during the final Passover evening. Jesus' "new commandment" to love others (13:34) was therefore to be understood in reference to his washing of his followers' feet beyond that of the 12 disciples—likely visitors to Lazarus' home who would have been considered outsiders to the family of Israel. The episode ends by considering the evidence (both pro and con) for whether John 13-17 took place during Passover evening or the week prior.

Apr 12, 2026 • 1h 6min
EP104: Inside Supernatural Encounters in Nigeria with Emmanuel Dania
Join us as Emmanuel Dania shares powerful stories of supernatural encounters, street evangelism in Nigeria, and the transformative power of love and faith in ministry. Discover how faith moves mountains and impacts lives in profound ways.

Apr 5, 2026 • 43min
EP103: Q&A Session #18
In this episode, Ronn and Mike answer two questions sent in by listeners: 1) Would it be possible to think of Joseph (Genesis 37-50) as a partial fulfillment of the promises made to Abraham? It seems that some of the promises made to Abraham were satisfied through Joseph and his story. 2) Please explain whether God was "silent" during the period between the testaments. It sounds like he may not have been as silent as I once thought. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY Kompass Financial Advisors is a Christian independent Certified Financial Planner® firm, offering personalized financial planning and insurance solutions to help individuals and businesses achieve long-term security. Learn more at: https://www.kompassfinancial.com

Mar 29, 2026 • 46min
EP102: Q&A Session #17
In this episode, Ronn and Mike answer two questions sent in by listeners: 1) Psalm 45 ultimately refers to Jesus, of course, but is it possible that the author originally intended it to be understood in terms of the coming messiah? 2) Please give a DCW opinion on the application of the word "righteous" to Jesus in such passages as Acts 3:14, 7:52, 22:14, and 1 John 2:1. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY Kompass Financial Advisors is a Christian independent Certified Financial Planner® firm, offering personalized financial planning and insurance solutions to help individuals and businesses achieve long-term security. Learn more at: https://www.kompassfinancial.com

Mar 22, 2026 • 49min
EP101: Q&A Session #16
In this episode, Ronn and Mike answer two questions sent in by listeners: 1) What should we think about Roman Catholics who venerate Mary and give her titles that should be reserved for Jesus? Does God consider this idolatry? Or can God simply see this as an example of a loyal (righteous) person being unwittingly misled? 2) Why does Jesus say "ask and it shall be given"? Is this specifically for his disciples, or for us believers? And how do we deal with prayers which are not answered? Is there any reason God would keep a person in a situation that is sin when they have asked to be freed from it?

Mar 15, 2026 • 59min
EP100: Celebrating Legacy: Drenna Heiser-Hollander on Michael Heiser's Journey
In this milestone 100th episode, the Divine Council Worldview podcast welcomes Drenna Heiser-Hollander, president of the Michael S. Heiser Foundation, for an intimate conversation about the man behind the scholarship. Drenna traces the journey she and Mike shared, from their early love story through the cross-country moves that shaped his calling, the years of relentless academic pursuit, and the painful season of illness that took him from us too soon. Through it all, she reveals a fuller picture of who Mike was. Not just as a scholar, but as a husband, a companion, and a man whose life left an indelible mark on everyone it touched. She also shares how she's found new beginnings in Florida and the work she's carrying forward through the foundation to ensure Mike's legacy continues to reach those he never got to meet.

Mar 8, 2026 • 48min
EP099: Q&A Session #15
In this episode, Ronn and Mike answer two questions sent in by listeners: 1) After the resurrection, NT writers rarely refer to Jesus simply by the name "Jesus" without attaching a title such as "Lord," "Christ," or "Jesus Christ." Is referring to Jesus without a title unintentionally minimizing early Christian confession about its messiah? 2) The story of 1 Kings 22, in which a spirit is sent by Yahweh to lie to Ahab's prophets, seems to imply that created gods have the ability to manipulate or obstruct human freedom. Is this story teaching this, and are there any other OT passages which teach this? THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY Kompass Financial Advisors is a Christian independent Certified Financial Planner® firm, offering personalized financial planning and insurance solutions to help individuals and businesses achieve long-term security. Learn more at: https://www.kompassfinancial.com


