Kings & Statesmen

A growing political restlessness is sweeping across the globe, embodied in movements such as Javier Milei’s libertarian surge in Argentina, Nayib Bukele’s crackdown on crime in El Salvador, and Donald Trump’s resurgent MAGA campaign in the United States. Each of these movements—distinct in approach yet unified in their conservative impulses—has arisen against the backdrop of a world spiraling into political and economic disorder. Their success signals a broader hunger for order, stability, and governance rooted in principles rather than perpetual crisis management. This moment presents an extraordinary opportunity for Christians to articulate and advance a vision of governance that liberates and prospers—one grounded in the Lordship of Christ. The task at hand is not merely to participate in politics but to reestablish Mere Christendom as the highest order of thought and practice across every sphere of life, including the political realm. In this episode, Lennox Kalifungwa and David Shepard are joined by Doug Wilson (NSA founder) and Ben Merkle (NSA President) to discuss the politics of mere Christendom in a modern world. This show is brought to you by New Saint Andrews College. New Saint Andrews College forges leaders who shape culture. To learn more, visit https://nsa.edu/ Partner with our mission: https://give.nsa.edu/gifts Read Doug Wilson’s book, Mere Christendom, here: https://christislord.com/ Read Ben Merkle’s book, The White Horse King, here: https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=87b7273c6a0599fd11b0491185d68a31cf3bd67df7f74a3ceae8ff71cf909f5fJmltdHM9MTc1MDI5MTIwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=2f429891-70f5-6df1-2681-8c5a714f6c35&psq=The+White+Horse+King+Ben+Merkle&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYW1hem9uLmNvbS9XaGl0ZS1Ib3JzZS1LaW5nLUFsZnJlZC1HcmVhdC9kcC9CMENaMTc2VzRS&ntb=1 Follow the contributors on X (formerly Twitter): David Shepard — @David__Shepard Lennox Kalifungwa — @LennoxKal Doug Wilson — @douglaswils Ben Merkle — @PresidentNSA

What Does "Separation of Church and State" Really Mean? Too often, the phrase is twisted to mean a separation of God from the State—or religion from politics. But the truth is this: Christ is Lord over the State. He defines its purpose, limits its power, and demands its obedience. A just society cannot exist if the State becomes a law unto itself. True liberty only flourishes when rulers submit to God. Christianity alone offers a foundation strong enough to resist tyranny and promote lasting freedom. In this episode, co-hosts David Shepard and Lennox Kalifungwa are joined by Pastor Toby Sumpter and Dr. Glenn Sunshine to examine the God-ordained role of the State and the long arc of Christian political thought. This show is brought to you by New Saint Andrews College. New Saint Andrews College forges leaders who shape culture. To learn more, visit https://nsa.edu/ Partner with our mission: https://give.nsa.edu/gifts Read Toby Sumpter's work on Reformed Civics here: https://tobyjsumpter.substack.com/ Read Glenn Sunshine’s book, Slaying Leviathan, here: https://www.amazon.com/Slaying-Leviathan-Government-Resistance-Christian-ebook/dp/B08MCHN5B5 Follow the contributors on X (formerly Twitter): David Shepard — @David__Shepard Lennox Kalifungwa — @LennoxKal Dr. Glenn Sunshine — @glenn_sunshine Pastor Toby Sumpter — @TJSumpter